UKC Forums - Performance and SS vs. just Performance

Pages (2): [1] 2 »
Show all 43 posts from this thread on one page

UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- UKC Coonhounds (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4)
-- Performance and SS vs. just Performance (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=928306277)

Posted by shawnstovall on 03-05-2013 02:46 PM:

Performance and SS vs. just Performance

here is the question would you be more to buy a pup that is performanced and ss or just performanced. just wondering.

__________________
shawn stovall
wyandotte, ok
shawnstovall2001@yahoo.com
918-961-2434
Home to:
Pr S&J's Shack's Backwoods Patches (walker)
'PR' Stovall's Black Knight Wild Willy
Past Home to:
dual grand stovall's black knight george (gone but not forgotten)
pr D&S' black little luke (1st and 3rd place wins) (davis black luke x paynes black june) gone but not forgotten
Dual Grand Davis' black hutch (gone but not forgotten)

Posted by JiM on 03-05-2013 03:01 PM:

I want both but would buy one that was not SS. I would not buy one that was not PRP.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.

Posted by jeffrey robinso on 03-05-2013 03:06 PM:

I don't hunt PKC so it doesn't matter to me about the super stakes but I do want it to be performanced.

Posted by Dwils on 03-05-2013 03:55 PM:

Performance points are hardly worth enough to interest me anymore . For the money u put in the payout is a joke

__________________
Home of :
GrNtCh PKC ch Skuna River Fred Bear
GrNtCh Skuna River Bear
NtCh PKCCh Skuna River Faith
NtCh PKC Ch Catch This
Silver Ch River Bend Lacey

Posted by shawnstovall on 03-05-2013 06:25 PM:

here is a little info for this question we just breed my male which is not ss but is a performance sire to a super nice female and the young that breed her and myself was just wondering if he should go ahead a do the 200.00 superstakes fee for the litter. then that would make the performanced and ss.

Posted by Wes Coffman on 03-05-2013 07:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shawnstovall
here is a little info for this question we just breed my male which is not ss but is a performance sire to a super nice female and the young that breed her and myself was just wondering if he should go ahead a do the 200.00 superstakes fee for the litter. then that would make the performanced and ss.

If you want to SS them for your own use, then I would say go for it. I don't think you will command much if any higher of a price for your pups by paying up SS.

Posted by Bobby Reynolds on 03-05-2013 07:12 PM:

I want them Super Stakes and Performanced if possible. But I will not let it bother me one bit if it was neither and it was from the right cross. But it would have to be what I thought was out of something very special.

Posted by GA DAWG on 03-05-2013 07:16 PM:

Id rather have both. It's seems like to me its kinda a breed thing. Why is that? Lots of blue studs. Yet only a handful are SS. I can't figure it out. Im not going to hunt enough Ukc hunts to care about performance. If my club didn't have them. Id done be done with them.

__________________
Michael Ghorley

Posted by K. Singletary on 03-05-2013 08:14 PM:

I wonder what % of Super Stakes pups actually go to the Super Stakes.

__________________
Kenny's Allnite Black and Tans
Moncks Corner, SC
843-697-5889
ChNtCh Allnite Gypsy Girl

Posted by Tyler Vaden on 03-05-2013 08:25 PM:

Performance points is paying back less now then a cast win at a PKC $25 hunt. I paid a litter up SS for my self and tried to get as many as the pups to people that would pay them up. 2 are MIA 1 that got paid up is being used on bears. One that got paid up got hit by a car. What I'm getting at is if you want a SS pup pay it and don't count on the people that you sell pups to pay theres up SS. Don't think you will make $200 more because they are SS.

Posted by Dogwhisper on 03-05-2013 08:28 PM:

PRP for me .
Of all the SS pups I have had none have I took to the SS.
PKC just does not hold my interest. I'll dabble in it but it's no priority for me.

Posted by shawnstovall on 03-05-2013 09:21 PM:

hey guys thank you for your committs he is not trying to get more out of the pups he was just trying to figure out if people would like to have the ss as well as performanced he was just wondering. myself i don't care either way i don't go to the super stakes or do i hunt in any pkc hunts.

Posted by kyhunter50 on 03-05-2013 09:43 PM:

ss for sure dont give a hoot about them being performance.

Posted by SOUTHERNSTYLE on 03-05-2013 10:27 PM:

LOL......

quote:
Originally posted by K. Singletary
I wonder what % of Super Stakes pups actually go to the Super Stakes.

I would dang near say 1% or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what I do not understand!!

__________________
_____________________

TRAIN EM ALONE!

PKC CH GRNTCH GRCH 'PR' MIDNIGHT FLY

Posted by cody jaster on 03-05-2013 10:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dogwhisper
PRP for me .
Of all the SS pups I have had none have I took to the SS.
PKC just does not hold my interest. I'll dabble in it but it's no priority for me.

That's exactly the way I see it too! Not many PKC hunts around here anymore and it's not worth driving 200 miles to one. SS would be like driving to the other end of the earth for me.

Posted by Phil Peterson on 03-05-2013 10:41 PM:

If you have a young dog that is really doing well between 12 months and 24 months old that is not SS, you sure will wish that it was. There would be a couple thousand dollars difference in the sale price.

Posted by Jared Luttrell on 03-05-2013 10:48 PM:

Exactly Phil, I personally would not buy a pup not performanced or super stake not that I have hunted any at super stake but I have got plenty of young dogs there money won to qualify them, some where to to super stakes some where never entered in another pkc hunt in there life but least was eligible to be. That's reason I want them super staked so incase I get that SPECIAL one and when do I will be there I can betcha that. That's just my 2 cents worth. Thanks

__________________
NiteCh GrCh 'Pr' Stylish Rebel (1 win to GrNite)
GrCh 'Pr' Cain's Insane Annie

Posted by GA DAWG on 03-05-2013 11:47 PM:

Re: LOL......

quote:
Originally posted by SOUTHERNSTYLE
I would dang near say 1% or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what I do not understand!!

That same 1% or less never see a Ukc hunt either. Course your not going to spend 250 a night to hunt a think I can dog at the SS your wanting to carry a stem winder. So you might as well have one to fool with that's what you want it to be. Never know when that big time pup might show up

Ain't happened to me in 10 ys.So Im due!

__________________
Michael Ghorley

Posted by jculler8 on 03-06-2013 01:32 PM:

Re: LOL......

quote:
Originally posted by SOUTHERNSTYLE
I would dang near say 1% or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what I do not understand!!

That is why they are able to give about $10000 to each division's winners. Heck a double cast win at the ss would pay for stud and whole litter to be paid up! Lol I do not see how a $100 or $200 prp program interests some more than a multi thousand dollar program! Where did ya'll get your math education? I guess that's why we are ranked near #20 in the world for math and science performance!

__________________
OAKS POINT KENNELS

HOME OF

PKC CH GRNITECH GRCH 'PR' OAKS POINT COON BUSTIN' BELLE HTX 2013 UKC Top 100 (May 2006-January 2017)

'PR' OAKS POINT STRIKE-EM OUT BEAU (May 2006-June 2016)

PKC CH NITECH GRCH 'PR' COON BUSTIN' WHITE STUFF

CH 'PR' GOLD RUSH EXPO

'PR' BLACK KNIGHT'S BALU JETTA (May 2013-October 2015)

CH 'PR' CHERRY CREEK XBOX 2016 Treeing Walker Days King of Show

Posted by t henry on 03-06-2013 03:29 PM:

Re: Re: LOL......

quote:
Originally posted by jculler8
That is why they are able to give about $10000 to each division's winners. Heck a double cast win at the ss would pay for stud and whole litter to be paid up! Lol I do not see how a $100 or $200 prp program interests some more than a multi thousand dollar program! Where did ya'll get your math education? I guess that's why we are ranked near #20 in the world for math and science performance!

Amen! As I read this whole thread I kept waiting for some one to say this.

__________________
T Henry

Posted by cody jaster on 03-06-2013 06:09 PM:

How many of you have even hunted a dog in SS. How many have won it! Seem to me your better off playing the lotto! You can win your fees back of you hunt reg PKC...UKC can be a diff story. I had a dog that won a first in a bigger hunt and I sold that dog. At the end of the year ukc sent me a 125 Chk. Not much I know!

Posted by Whordel on 03-06-2013 06:31 PM:

I know it ain't much but I wished Jake was performanced. I would have had a $500+ check coming to me, better than nothing ;-(

__________________
Home of Bucksaw Kennels
*Nt.Ch Hitchins Rock N Jake*
2012 Overall Nt.Ch Ky State Hunt winner. Double Cast Wins
2012 Autumn Oaks Cast Win
2012 Qualified Lee Crawford
2012 Qualified Purina National
2013 Walker Days Cast Win
2013 Qualified ACHA World
2 Wins toward Grand
Back to work so the hunting and hunts are over for now lol.
*2013 Performance Sire*

***RIP Gr.Nt.Ch River Kennel Rock***

Chris Cordle
BOSS LIGHTS
CCC
Carter County Cooners

Posted by K. Singletary on 03-06-2013 06:47 PM:

Re: Re: LOL......

quote:
Originally posted by jculler8
That is why they are able to give about $10000 to each division's winners. Heck a double cast win at the ss would pay for stud and whole litter to be paid up! Lol I do not see how a $100 or $200 prp program interests some more than a multi thousand dollar program! Where did ya'll get your math education? I guess that's why we are ranked near #20 in the world for math and science performance!

First of all, how many super stakes pups will you have to pay up and spend countless hours on before getting one worthy of taking. Then you have to take a week off of work and travel, racking up food, hotel, and gas bills. Then you acutally have to win 2 casts which only 1 in 8 that attend can do. Big $ going out with a slim chance of any coming in.

Or I can pay $30 to pay up a performance pup, hunt at the local club where I'm going to hunt anyway and possibly get a few hundred $'s in return for doing nothing extra.

My math tells me it's a no brainer to have a performance pup while many things need to be considered before investing in a super stakes pup.

__________________
Kenny's Allnite Black and Tans
Moncks Corner, SC
843-697-5889
ChNtCh Allnite Gypsy Girl

Posted by JiM on 03-06-2013 07:23 PM:

Re: Re: Re: LOL......

quote:
Originally posted by K. Singletary
First of all, how many super stakes pups will you have to pay up and spend countless hours on before getting one worthy of taking. Then you have to take a week off of work and travel, racking up food, hotel, and gas bills. Then you acutally have to win 2 casts which only 1 in 8 that attend can do. Big $ going out with a slim chance of any coming in.

Or I can pay $30 to pay up a performance pup, hunt at the local club where I'm going to hunt anyway and possibly get a few hundred $'s in return for doing nothing extra.

My math tells me it's a no brainer to have a performance pup while many things need to be considered before investing in a super stakes pup.

I don't do any math at all. I just pay up everything for both and still end up culling most of them. It's just money.

Posted by K. Singletary on 03-06-2013 07:26 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL......

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I don't do any math at all. I just pay up everything for both and still end up culling most of them. It's just money.

LOL!!!! I know the feeling....

__________________
Kenny's Allnite Black and Tans
Moncks Corner, SC
843-697-5889
ChNtCh Allnite Gypsy Girl

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:47 PM.

Pages (2): [1] 2 »
Show all 43 posts from this thread on one page