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Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 04:06 AM:

is it real?

A stud that is or throws PRO HUNT STYLE

DEEP AND ALONE TWO LOOKING DOWN FAST HUNTER

DOES HE EXIST IN A BLUE HIDE?

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Posted by Mad-Dog on 02-07-2013 04:45 AM:

Check him out

Come up and go hunting with GR CH NT CH PR Mad Dog Astro. Turn him loose, find him treed............Tim (There is a thread on here)

Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 04:53 AM:

Re: Check him out

quote:
Originally posted by Mad-Dog
Come up and go hunting with GR CH NT CH PR Mad Dog Astro. Turn him loose, find him treed............Tim (There is a thread on here)

How would u compare him to ranger?

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Posted by Mad-Dog on 02-07-2013 05:06 AM:

He will get deeper quicker. Astro is looking for a "treeable" coon, either one that is laid up or one that he can slam dunk........Tim

Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 05:25 AM:

Just one man thinks he has one?

Blue world wake up. Falling behind.

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Posted by BlueTickNC on 02-07-2013 01:15 PM:

GOT ONE HERE NITECH ANDERSONS WILD N BLUE POUNDER HE IS BY HIS SELF 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME GETS DEEP AND GETS UNDER A BUSH WITH THE COON AND ONE THING BETTER THAN THAT HE IS THROWING PUPS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME

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Posted by Tom Jones on 02-07-2013 01:46 PM:

DEEP?

hmmm

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Posted by Tom Jones on 02-07-2013 02:04 PM:

Re: is it real?

quote:
Originally posted by Blacklabel
A stud that is or throws PRO HUNT STYLE

DEEP AND ALONE TWO LOOKING DOWN FAST HUNTER

DOES HE EXIST IN A BLUE HIDE?

not sure exactly what you wanting, do you want them do that at the expence of runnin past a few coon (surely not)? most bluetick folks work on keepin certain traits (mouth, nose, accuracy, tracking) that usually makes them a balanced hound. I love one to get by thereselves but not at the expence of missing or passing up coon. I think I may have to start my own thread

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Posted by BlueTickNC on 02-07-2013 02:07 PM:

Re: Re: is it real?

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Jones
not sure exactly what you wanting, do you want them do that at the expence of runnin past a few coon (surely not)? most bluetick folks work on keepin certain traits (mouth, nose, accuracy, tracking) that usually makes them a balanced hound. I love one to get by thereselves but not at the expence of missing or passing up coon. I think I may have to start my own thread

GOOD POST!!!!!

Posted by Ron Jackson on 02-07-2013 02:16 PM:

Piazon

Put up a thread and ask for reports from Piazon pup owners. Ron

Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 04:26 PM:

Re: Re: is it real?

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Jones
not sure exactly what you wanting, do you want them do that at the expence of runnin past a few coon (surely not)? most bluetick folks work on keepin certain traits (mouth, nose, accuracy, tracking) that usually makes them a balanced hound. I love one to get by thereselves but not at the expence of missing or passing up coon. I think I may have to start my own thread

I agree that alot of breeders are doing just what you said. But I think they are being line/kennel blind and as a whole falling behind.

We are considering breeding to a crossbred dog because he cant find something comparable in a blue hide.

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Posted by kengregory on 02-07-2013 04:31 PM:

come to w.v. and i'll show ya.... beaver creek blue johnny reb i don't worry about fallin behind.... i breed for coondawgs but i still do win an occational comp. hunt every once in awhile.... (good post mr. jones!!)

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Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 04:47 PM:

Ok maybe I miss communicated.

I want a dog that hunts on the run, can tree a coon 10 feet away or 2 miles and not take all night to do it. I dont have much use for 45 min trailing around. I owned a walker/running dog cross bitch that trees coons fast, made 3 trees in 30a min in a hunt, by herself on all 3 and all were within 200 yards. Then punched a hole in the dark and was over a mile with anothe, after the hr was up. $kc hunt. Other dogss treed 2 together. You could watch the garmin and she would hunt about 100 yards in 10-15 seconds. She has split 10 feet away and a mile the other direction.

I want a dog that is fast accurate independent and has no quit in them.

Edit* That crossbred bitch just sold ffor $4500. Not SS Not performance .... all coondog.

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Posted by Danny Glista on 02-07-2013 05:00 PM:

Hmmmm

A got a 16 month old here that can do all that!! If that's all your wantin!! Not 4 sale!!
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Ok maybe I miss communicated.

I want a dog that hunts on the run, can tree a coon 10 feet away or 2 miles and not take all night to do it. I dont have much use for 45 min trailing around. I owned a walker/running dog cross bitch that trees coons fast, made 3 trees in 30a min in a hunt, by herself on all 3 and all were within 200 yards. Then punched a hole in the dark and was over a mile with anothe, after the hr was up. $kc hunt. Other dogss treed 2 together. You could watch the garmin and she would hunt about 100 yards in 10-15 seconds. She has split 10 feet away and a mile the other direction.

I want a dog that is fast accurate independent and has no quit in them.

Edit* That crossbred bitch just sold ffor $4500. Not SS Not performance .... all coondog.

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Posted by Tom Jones on 02-07-2013 05:24 PM:

ITS A FACT

I lost a couple nice hounds lil over a year ago! What your describing is what I have to have. They do exist and they are out there. You can make that perfect cross and raise a litter that all of em make above average/great coondogs and they'll all be a little different in the way they go about their buisness. Sure you know that, just part of the game. I take about everything on these boards with a grain of salt as everyone has this type or knows that old so-n-so is producing it............Im looking myself so good luck to you.

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Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 05:37 PM:

Thanks Tom.

It kills me that people get excited about getting one qualified for ukc world zones, big deal. Most never go to zones, its easier to say you couldnt go, then to say you got beat.

Ive talked with about 4 people who are truely looking to produce TOP hounds, that can compete at the highest levels.

Most wont look outside their yard.

Ok lets say this. If Mojo was blue there are alot of guys who wouldnt breed to him. Same goes for his son Mason who has been running pro hunts and dominating. He isnt that lucky he is a TOP dog.

Lets look outside the box.

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Posted by everett on 02-07-2013 06:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blacklabel
Thanks Tom.

It kills me that people get excited about getting one qualified for ukc world zones, big deal. Most never go to zones, its easier to say you couldnt go, then to say you got beat.

Ive talked with about 4 people who are truely looking to produce TOP hounds, that can compete at the highest levels.

Most wont look outside their yard.

Ok lets say this. If Mojo was blue there are alot of guys who wouldnt breed to him. Same goes for his son Mason who has been running pro hunts and dominating. He isnt that lucky he is a TOP dog.

Lets look outside the box.

Is this thread really about finding a top blue dog or is it about promoting cross breeding, if it is about a top blue, go to Paul Vaughns and hunt with the Astro dog he is as you described, as far as cross breeding is concerned, we don,t need any of that to keep up, we have what it takes, we just need to put more of the right stuff together consistently.....Gerald

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Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 06:17 PM:

Well its more about winning big weekly. Being able to produce TOP hounds consistently. Looking outside your own yard. Being honest with ones self about ones dogs.

Tell you the truth, i see everyone bragging on mad dogs, and ive only been with one and wasnt impressed. But you guys sure talk him up. JMO

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Posted by everett on 02-07-2013 06:38 PM:

speak for them selves

I think everyone brags a little on their hounds when they are proud of them, kinda comes with the territory, Best thing to do is go to the vaughn,s and hunt with some and see for your self, talk is cheap and it comes a dime a dozen, by the way which Mad Dog hound did you hunt with........Gerald

Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 06:44 PM:

Ranger. He was ok, lacked drive, and not on the level im looking for.

Different strokes for different folks.

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Posted by everett on 02-07-2013 06:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blacklabel
Ranger. He was ok, lacked drive, and not on the level im looking for.

Different strokes for different folks.

Go hunt with the Astro dog, if Drive is what your looking for you will find it there with the meat on the other end.....Gerald

Posted by 8hawg on 02-07-2013 06:54 PM:

Talk to Tom Jennings (Stillwater Farms) on here he hunts in the Pro Hunts some.

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Posted by 8hawg on 02-07-2013 07:10 PM:

Have you found out any info on that Mackie Creek dog that has moved to MO that you have inquired about. He was described "pro hunt style" and I belive he has placed or won a prohunt.

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Posted by Blacklabel on 02-07-2013 07:46 PM:

Im gonna call the man that owns him. He sent me his number.

Good lookin out.

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Posted by prostockpat on 02-07-2013 08:17 PM:

danny cobb had

mud creek bo jackson
he is what your looking for.

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