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Posted by usmccoonhunter on 01-27-2013 06:06 AM:

who has some old blood semen for sale?

Wondering who has some, what it is and how much.

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Posted by mike shannon on 01-27-2013 12:11 PM:

Hillbilly Mac Blood

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Posted by mike shannon on 01-27-2013 05:04 PM:

Not semen but live breeding...

Posted by usmccoonhunter on 01-27-2013 05:38 PM:

Im looking for old blood straws to breed to a few of my females not looking for dogs out of old blood looking for the real thing.

Posted by headless01 on 01-27-2013 10:40 PM:

good luck. what i look for is traits with ability to tree coons, thats the foundation stock thats in a living dog. its out there in different places, but its not in most flavour of the month dogs, advertised.

theres more than we think though, its just not promoted hard, and can be hard to get your hands on, unless you find and breed to these hounds, and keep these ''traits and abilities'' in your pups, which can be harder than it sounds, because as the old saying goes, you don't know what you got till its gone.

FINLEY RIVER, LONE PINE, CLOVER, HAS THEM OLD TRAITS, TRACK AND TREE POWER WITH A SPEED AND ACCURACY.

TRACKING TRAITS AND TREE ABILITY OF OLD BLOOD = the real thing.
NOTHING BEATS OLD FINLEY RIVER TRACKING TRAITS AND ACCURACY.
look for traits not titles, papers don't tree coons.

Posted by Cashie Swamp on 01-28-2013 01:34 AM:

Been looking a heavy bred Finley river dog a while only thing I have seen are some show dogs that have not been hunted

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Posted by Doug Bowers on 01-28-2013 06:20 AM:

What's the ped on your female you want to use old semen on.

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Posted by Cashie Swamp on 01-29-2013 05:39 PM:

Southern Country Rock and Stylish Star is my female she needs a place to be night champ 22 months old she has an all grand ped.

Posted by Jamie Thurman on 01-29-2013 08:49 PM:

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Southern Country Rock and Stylish Star is my female she needs a place to be night champ 22 months old she has an all grand ped.

You wanna sale her

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Posted by usmccoonhunter on 01-29-2013 10:11 PM:

Got all grand dual grand female superman x ridgetop sparky bred
also have a all grand harry bawls x fishers mouse bred female. Also have a few others in mind

Posted by usmccoonhunter on 01-29-2013 10:16 PM:

The reason im looking for older stuff is because the hunting ability has been slowly bred out of dogs. I dont mean get through the country hunting. Im not doing it to sell and make money on pups. Looking for something different. I know what you mean though. Its not a def thing when u breed to semen just curious who has what out there.

Posted by Cashie Swamp on 01-30-2013 03:49 AM:

She's not forsale

Posted by Walkers 223 on 01-30-2013 07:37 AM:

CH GRNITECH Stone Mountain Bronco

Only five straws. Approved females only, must be top notch. Looking to make crosses to make an impact on breed with what I have left, bout as close to bozo as you'll find.

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Posted by Trinket clark on 02-01-2013 12:55 PM:

Two most underrated lines of OLD Stuff around!

Durbins Rambler Blood and Brookshier hounds, all country coon dogs mostly that no one has herd of, BUT in my book they don't get much better.
Old Finley river bred hounds with a shot or two of lipper, Super fast track dogs with huge,huge, screaming bawl mouths, that drift and slice through the country like nothing you have seen, fast enough to catch a deer and have them on the ground, now that's fast. Big hard tree dogs, with dying locates a child could call.
I live in western Pa,hr north of Pittsburgh 45min from Ohio line. Everybody always talking about that Great coon dog tide out behind the barn,that no one new about BUT A COOOOOON DOG!!! Well I have him, no big names in his pedigree, but all coon dogs,and I've hunted with just about all of them.
Well this is what you was asking for, I breed not to what everybody has, But to what everybody will want. Line breeding is the only way.
Look at thread for Durbins Rambler x Clark's Finley River Sassy, ...Thanks and good hunting..

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Posted by harold on 02-01-2013 02:47 PM:

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Posted by headless01 on 02-01-2013 05:32 PM:

Re: Two most underrated lines of OLD Stuff around!

quote:
Originally posted by Trinket clark
Durbins Rambler Blood and Brookshier hounds, all country coon dogs mostly that no one has herd of, BUT in my book they don't get much better.
Old Finley river bred hounds with a shot or two of lipper, Super fast track dogs with huge,huge, screaming bawl mouths, that drift and slice through the country like nothing you have seen, fast enough to catch a deer and have them on the ground, now that's fast. Big hard tree dogs, with dying locates a child could call.
I live in western Pa,hr north of Pittsburgh 45min from Ohio line. Everybody always talking about that Great coon dog tide out behind the barn,that no one new about BUT A COOOOOON DOG!!! Well I have him, no big names in his pedigree, but all coon dogs,and I've hunted with just about all of them.
Well this is what you was asking for, I breed not to what everybody has, But to what everybody will want. Line breeding is the only way.
Look at thread for Durbins Rambler x Clark's Finley River Sassy, ...Thanks and good hunting..

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Posted by Dwils on 02-01-2013 07:16 PM:

alot of dogs today have taken a nose dive in coon treeing ability. More people that are interested in "breeding" dogs than they are hunting them . So like i said, fewer coon hunters and more dog breeders that have no idea what a coondog is. People have stopped breeding for nose, track spead , accuracy and balance. Its more like people are looking at Looks, big mouth, and pedigree; when niether of those things have a thing to do with ability. Many Dogs today are made to look good on easy coons and nothing more. Alot of Dogs are many generations away from old top foundation stock and people are still having their dogs ride on their coat tails and without proving anything, get bred. Not to mention the generation after generation of stud dog out of each other that are never known for being a coondog, but more as a "reproducer".

If breeders where doing a good job now a days , people wouldnt need to go back and breed to old frozen semen. Its like why would you put old parts on a new car unless the new car wasnt made right? food for thought

usmccoonhunter sorry for the rant....but to answer your ? . Tom Lechlitner my friend has a breeding or two left off Grnitech Pkc ch Minklers Kansas Thunder. Thunder was a top coondog. excellent nose, ability. could move any kind of track and tree any kind of coon. excellent mouth and accurate locater. im not sure if he would part with any but i will ask

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Posted by usmccoonhunter on 02-02-2013 02:22 AM:

No sir you werent ranting hell i wanted to say preach on brotjer. Thats why i asked this qeustion cause im sick of the same ole stuff bred for treeing ability. Barking from the time u turn them loose til they tree has become the new comp dog. Let me know what u come up with sir

Posted by MikeR on 02-02-2013 10:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dwils
alot of dogs today have taken a nose dive in coon treeing ability. More people that are interested in "breeding" dogs than they are hunting them . So like i said, fewer coon hunters and more dog breeders that have no idea what a coondog is. People have stopped breeding for nose, track spead , accuracy and balance. Its more like people are looking at Looks, big mouth, and pedigree; when niether of those things have a thing to do with ability. Many Dogs today are made to look good on easy coons and nothing more. Alot of Dogs are many generations away from old top foundation stock and people are still having their dogs ride on their coat tails and without proving anything, get bred. Not to mention the generation after generation of stud dog out of each other that are never known for being a coondog, but more as a "reproducer".

If breeders where doing a good job now a days , people wouldnt need to go back and breed to old frozen semen. Its like why would you put old parts on a new car unless the new car wasnt made right? food for thought

Truer words were never spoken!

The Germans who undoubtedly have the very best working and sporting breeds in the world breed to the future NEVER to the past.

If breeders would breed for the betterment of the breed instead of making money people wouldn't have to breed to dogs long since dead in order to retain qualities that should have been improved upon not lost.

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Posted by Doug Bowers on 02-02-2013 11:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dwils
alot of dogs today have taken a nose dive in coon treeing ability. More people that are interested in "breeding" dogs than they are hunting them . So like i said, fewer coon hunters and more dog breeders that have no idea what a coondog is. People have stopped breeding for nose, track spead , accuracy and balance. Its more like people are looking at Looks, big mouth, and pedigree; when niether of those things have a thing to do with ability. Many Dogs today are made to look good on easy coons and nothing more. Alot of Dogs are many generations away from old top foundation stock and people are still having their dogs ride on their coat tails and without proving anything, get bred. Not to mention the generation after generation of stud dog out of each other that are never known for being a coondog, but more as a "reproducer".

If breeders where doing a good job now a days , people wouldnt need to go back and breed to old frozen semen. Its like why would you put old parts on a new car unless the new car wasnt made right? food for thought

usmccoonhunter sorry for the rant....but to answer your ? . Tom Lechlitner my friend has a breeding or two left off Grnitech Pkc ch Minklers Kansas Thunder. Thunder was a top coondog. excellent nose, ability. could move any kind of track and tree any kind of coon. excellent mouth and accurate locater. im not sure if he would part with any but i will ask

X2 very true. some of these guys dont have a clue.

Posted by stylin banjo on 02-12-2013 03:38 AM:

WHEN I WAS YOUNGER MY UNCLE HAD A MALE AND FEMALE OUT OF HEAVY FINLEY RIVER STUFF.FLAT OUT TRACK DRIVING TRACK DRIFTING BLOW IN AND GET TREED QUICK WITH THE MEAT. PROB THE BEST TWO HOUNDS I HAVE BEEN WITH.

Posted by teambackstreet on 02-12-2013 07:00 AM:

Couldn't have said it any better if you got to go back 30 years for pups something went wrong you should get better each generation down the line

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Posted by Courtney Makin on 03-01-2013 02:30 AM:

I know you were looking for straws but there are a few dead accurate walkers left out there. Come and go hunting with me sometime and I will show you 2 of them. They don't strike fast and run their mouth the whole time their out there but when they don't miss hardly ever. They don't knock the tree down when they tree but they will stay all night and not pull to anything. They both split tree 90% of the time and never had to be hunted by themselves to do it, they did it on their own, from the start! The bad thing is, those mouthy, tree happy dogs are hard to beat in the hunts when the leaves are on!

I think this is the smartest thing ive read on the message boards! Lol

quote:
Originally posted by headless01
good luck. what i look for is traits with ability to tree coons, thats the foundation stock thats in a living dog. its out there in different places, but its not in most flavour of the month dogs, advertised.

theres more than we think though, its just not promoted hard, and can be hard to get your hands on, unless you find and breed to these hounds, and keep these ''traits and abilities'' in your pups, which can be harder than it sounds, because as the old saying goes, you don't know what you got till its gone.

FINLEY RIVER, LONE PINE, CLOVER, HAS THEM OLD TRAITS, TRACK AND TREE POWER WITH A SPEED AND ACCURACY
TRACKING TRAITS AND TREE ABILITY OF OLD BLOOD = the real thing.
NOTHING BEATS OLD FINLEY RIVER TRACKING TRAITS AND ACCURACY.
look for traits not titles, papers don't tree coons.

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Posted by Wes Coffman on 10-19-2015 06:07 PM:

Looking for anyone with Rat or Sunrise semen.

Would also be interested in Hardwood Patch.

Thanks.

Posted by CedarTree50 on 10-19-2015 06:14 PM:

I got youngest living male off durbins rambler. Grandnight PKC champ boss hog. Rambler X rats wild Emma. By far best ever hunted with has beat some of biggest names you can think of. Have had him collected wanting breed few females

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