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Posted by croatankid on 11-11-2012 01:16 AM:

cities, brooder for liberals

what is it about cities that make most of the people that live there into liberals/gumantgivmes, takers all? i have cousins, by my wife, that grew up in NY city, they now live in florida and they are die hard liberals. the cities are like cancer tumors that spread cancer cells throughout the body.

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Posted by vernonsdream on 11-11-2012 01:22 AM:

Why don't you just ask your fictional wifes cousins why they're that way?

Posted by truly on 11-11-2012 04:52 PM:

Re: cities, brooder for liberals

quote:
Originally posted by croatankid
what is it about cities that make most of the people that live there into liberals/gumantgivmes, takers all? i have cousins, by my wife, that grew up in NY city, they now live in florida and they are die hard liberals. the cities are like cancer tumors that spread cancer cells throughout the body.

Yes indeed, cities are brooders for Liberals. Let me tell you a few reasons:
1] Great education. Yes there are failing inner city schools, but the majority of urbanites have access to a great education. And not just K-12. Obviously the majority of great colleges and universities are in urban areas. And once graduated from a great university, most of the highest educated grads stay in the city for employment reasons. So on a daily basis, our kids get to chat with adults who are PhD scientists, MDs, CEOs, CFOs, accountants, lawyers, engineers, etc.
2] We live in close proximity to people who are very different than we are. This makes us appreciate the logic of tolerance on a level that those who live in rural or small town can't. If your neighbor is LBGT or an ethnic minority or someone who deals with mental health issues, you just learn to deal with it. If you have a Somali neighbor that likes to butcher a goat in their back yard every so often then you realize that they will be tolerant when you want to skin some coon off of your maple tree. And our close proximity makes us realize that we are just better to all get along.
3] Gubt run services: Mass transit works. Large public parks with great walking trails are the gem of any major city. Public water and sewer is so much more cost effective than everyone having their own well and septic system. This makes understand "the economies of scale", and appreciate that there are many things that gubt can do better than individuals.
4] and speaking of services- all of the needy and mentally ill from small town USA migrate to the big city. Your shell shocked veterans end up close to the best VA hospitals, of which most are in cities. Your drug addicts come to cities for treatment. We do our best to rehabilitate them. Often we succeed. Which makes us understand that NOBODY should be just thrown to the curb like these shell shocked vets and druggies and the mentally ill. We know you all claim that through charity that you will care for them. But you didn't or they wouldn't have migrated here. So this builds the liberal mindset that we need social welfare and safety nets that are gubt run to catch those who fall through the cracks.
5] The shell shocked veterans tell us stories. And it makes us understand and hate war. And we deal with immigrants who have come here to escape the ravages of wars in their home countries. And many of these wars were the end result of our US foreign policies. The scars on their bodies and the far away look in their eyes is just like our own veterans. And because these Vets and immigrants live in close proximity they become friends.
And we realize that we could just all get along. If we just tried a little harder.

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Posted by curs12 on 11-11-2012 05:43 PM:

I agree with truly 100 percent very true post

Posted by brushrunretiree on 11-11-2012 07:11 PM:

GOOD REPLY truly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-11-2012 07:35 PM:

Re: Re: cities, brooder for liberals

quote:
Originally posted by truly
Yes indeed, cities are brooders for Liberals. Let me tell you a few reasons:
1] Great education. Yes there are failing inner city schools, but the majority of urbanites have access to a great education. And not just K-12. Obviously the majority of great colleges and universities are in urban areas. And once graduated from a great university, most of the highest educated grads stay in the city for employment reasons. So on a daily basis, our kids get to chat with adults who are PhD scientists, MDs, CEOs, CFOs, accountants, lawyers, engineers, etc.
2] We live in close proximity to people who are very different than we are. This makes us appreciate the logic of tolerance on a level that those who live in rural or small town can't. If your neighbor is LBGT or an ethnic minority or someone who deals with mental health issues, you just learn to deal with it. If you have a Somali neighbor that likes to butcher a goat in their back yard every so often then you realize that they will be tolerant when you want to skin some coon off of your maple tree. And our close proximity makes us realize that we are just better to all get along.
3] Gubt run services: Mass transit works. Large public parks with great walking trails are the gem of any major city. Public water and sewer is so much more cost effective than everyone having their own well and septic system. This makes understand "the economies of scale", and appreciate that there are many things that gubt can do better than individuals.
4] and speaking of services- all of the needy and mentally ill from small town USA migrate to the big city. Your shell shocked veterans end up close to the best VA hospitals, of which most are in cities. Your drug addicts come to cities for treatment. We do our best to rehabilitate them. Often we succeed. Which makes us understand that NOBODY should be just thrown to the curb like these shell shocked vets and druggies and the mentally ill. We know you all claim that through charity that you will care for them. But you didn't or they wouldn't have migrated here. So this builds the liberal mindset that we need social welfare and safety nets that are gubt run to catch those who fall through the cracks.
5] The shell shocked veterans tell us stories. And it makes us understand and hate war. And we deal with immigrants who have come here to escape the ravages of wars in their home countries. And many of these wars were the end result of our US foreign policies. The scars on their bodies and the far away look in their eyes is just like our own veterans. And because these Vets and immigrants live in close proximity they become friends.
And we realize that we could just all get along. If we just tried a little harder.

And here are the reasons that middle America is the cradle of conservatives....

1) Education- Middle Americans attend local K-12 schools where parents are a part of the learning process. Not only are the children given a good "reading, writing, and arithmetic" education, they are also provided moral guidance by parents and community. They learn that hard work is the path to prosperity. Some of them go off to college, and many of them return to their home town, to family values. Many of them go to agricultural schools, and come home ready to roll up their sleeves, and put in hours of blood, sweat, and tears in order to become successful. They are our home town bankers, lawyers, doctors, and farmers. They may not have an MBA, but they start up their own small businesses, and provide a job for their neighbors.
2. ) Middle Americans are the ones that raise the goats and sell them to the Somali's, the chickens and pigs for the folks from central America and from the east. Not only do they happily do business with them, they invite them to church and welcome them into their homes. They do so not out of hatred or ill will, but out of "being a neighbor" and having good family values. They don't see it as being tolerant, but instead out of equality. See the different ethnic groups in middle America, they share the same value system..that of hard work, prosperity through sweat equity, and the same view of equality. They don't segregate themselves into closed communities, and view their American counterparts as equals as well.
3) They view "big government" as an intrusion, not as a program that is "owed" them. They view public transportation as something that they get to pay for, but don't get to use...they carpool, share rides, or pay see that they are the ones that actually support the automotive company by purchasing vehicles, yet they are also the ones that pay excise taxes on those vehicles, gasoline, and fuel. Their tax dollars were used to bail out the auto companies, and they also went out and purchased a new pickup truck to help out as well. They pay for the water wells to be drilled, so that the cattle can have water, the crops can be irrigated so the inner city folks can have their Big Mac and fries. Not only that, but they pay for the electricity to run the pumps to get the water out of the ground, but have to navigate their way through government red tape to get permits to drill the water wells. They have to manage the septic systems according to a bureaucratic nightmare of EPA peculation tests. You want to talk about "economy of scale"....they understand that the death of the family farm is about economy of scale. That no longer can you farm to feed your own family on 120 acres..you must not be a "factory farm" with millions of dollars of debt to farm thousands of acres because the margin per acre is so small that it does not pay to farm small scale any longer. They listen to the arguments about oil prices, while paying $4.00 a gallon for diesel fuel to prepare the ground, plant the crops, then harvest them....while doing their darndest to keep grain prices low..to continue to grow pork, while losing $50.00 a head because they know that the country depends on them.
4) The "needy" and "mentally ill" don't all migrate to the city....many of them are cared for in the homes of family and close friends. Family values ensure that they get the care that they need and it becomes a community effort to ensure that families don't go hungry. Those that are not willing to help themselves, yes...they are the first to seek out the entitlement programs that are there for the giving. The same folks that insist that the State run Mental Health care system was disbanded because it was "inhumane" now want to complain that the former patients are living under bridges and using up every bed in the homeless shelter. The violent ones end up in county jails instead of being supervised and getting treatment. Churches work to ensure that nobody goes hungry with local food banks, rather than making sure that folks have money for cigaretts and beer by giving them food stamps and free housing. If you are willing to work, someone will find something for you to DO...real work...and make sure that your family does not go hungry or you don't get the medical treatment, or even psychiatric treatment they need.
5) Home town heroes come home from war and don't tell "stories" to try to convince us how horrible war is. Home town America already knows how terrible it is. They instead put those horrible memories on the back shelf, roll up their sleeves and get to work. They will remind their children and grandchildren how GREAT this country is and they will suffer in silence with their memories. They don't flock to the VA for assistance or medical care, instead they work hard for what they have and use it wisely. Each and every one of them served out of a sense of loyalty to their country. They hold no ill will to the "enemy" other than the threat to freedom and the American way of life....to the pursuit of happiness and liberty.
6) Few among them hold ill will towards anyone who is willing to pull their own weight, if able. If unable, they are the first ones to offer a helping hand. They are the ones that hold the door for the next person out the door, or open the door for someone at the local convenience store...they are the ones that ask "how ya doin?" and are genuinely interested in how others are doing. they believe that life begins at conception, because there are NO unwanted babies in the community, they know someone who wants a baby, and that life is to be cherished, not a matter of convenience.

I could go on and on....

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Posted by brushrunretiree on 11-11-2012 07:43 PM:

VERY,VERY WELL SAID, MR. NEWLIN!!!!

Posted by brushrunretiree on 11-12-2012 03:26 AM:

IF ANY OF THE STATES HAVE A GOOD ATT. GEN. THEY OUGHT TO LOOK AT THE LIBERALS VOTE COUNTING; Fact: Romney won with 59% of the white vote, more than Eisenhower, Reagan and Bush.
Fact: Romney won the counties outside of the cities in most every state.
Fact: Romney won every state with voter ID laws.
Fact: Obama had less votes this election than last
Fact: More people voted than are eligible.
Fact: Obama received 99% of the vote in Ohio where GOP inspectors were illegally removed.
Fact: There are 98, thousand+ eligible voters in Wood Co Ohio & 106,000 voted
Fact: If the facts don't add up, something is wrong.

We heard all about voter fraud in 08. Why wasn't anything done about it? We need to continue the fight in every state government. Do not be silent. Voter fraud goes against all of our constitutional rights. Perhaps check out True The Vote. Strength in numbers

Posted by john Duemmer on 11-12-2012 04:29 AM:

Re: Re: Re: cities, brooder for liberals

quote:
Originally posted by Oak Ridge
And here are the reasons that middle America is the cradle of conservatives....

1) Education- Middle Americans attend local K-12 schools where parents are a part of the learning process. Not only are the children given a good "reading, writing, and arithmetic" education, they are also provided moral guidance by parents and community. They learn that hard work is the path to prosperity. Some of them go off to college, and many of them return to their home town, to family values. Many of them go to agricultural schools, and come home ready to roll up their sleeves, and put in hours of blood, sweat, and tears in order to become successful. They are our home town bankers, lawyers, doctors, and farmers. They may not have an MBA, but they start up their own small businesses, and provide a job for their neighbors.
2. ) Middle Americans are the ones that raise the goats and sell them to the Somali's, the chickens and pigs for the folks from central America and from the east. Not only do they happily do business with them, they invite them to church and welcome them into their homes. They do so not out of hatred or ill will, but out of "being a neighbor" and having good family values. They don't see it as being tolerant, but instead out of equality. See the different ethnic groups in middle America, they share the same value system..that of hard work, prosperity through sweat equity, and the same view of equality. They don't segregate themselves into closed communities, and view their American counterparts as equals as well.
3) They view "big government" as an intrusion, not as a program that is "owed" them. They view public transportation as something that they get to pay for, but don't get to use...they carpool, share rides, or pay see that they are the ones that actually support the automotive company by purchasing vehicles, yet they are also the ones that pay excise taxes on those vehicles, gasoline, and fuel. Their tax dollars were used to bail out the auto companies, and they also went out and purchased a new pickup truck to help out as well. They pay for the water wells to be drilled, so that the cattle can have water, the crops can be irrigated so the inner city folks can have their Big Mac and fries. Not only that, but they pay for the electricity to run the pumps to get the water out of the ground, but have to navigate their way through government red tape to get permits to drill the water wells. They have to manage the septic systems according to a bureaucratic nightmare of EPA peculation tests. You want to talk about "economy of scale"....they understand that the death of the family farm is about economy of scale. That no longer can you farm to feed your own family on 120 acres..you must not be a "factory farm" with millions of dollars of debt to farm thousands of acres because the margin per acre is so small that it does not pay to farm small scale any longer. They listen to the arguments about oil prices, while paying $4.00 a gallon for diesel fuel to prepare the ground, plant the crops, then harvest them....while doing their darndest to keep grain prices low..to continue to grow pork, while losing $50.00 a head because they know that the country depends on them.
4) The "needy" and "mentally ill" don't all migrate to the city....many of them are cared for in the homes of family and close friends. Family values ensure that they get the care that they need and it becomes a community effort to ensure that families don't go hungry. Those that are not willing to help themselves, yes...they are the first to seek out the entitlement programs that are there for the giving. The same folks that insist that the State run Mental Health care system was disbanded because it was "inhumane" now want to complain that the former patients are living under bridges and using up every bed in the homeless shelter. The violent ones end up in county jails instead of being supervised and getting treatment. Churches work to ensure that nobody goes hungry with local food banks, rather than making sure that folks have money for cigaretts and beer by giving them food stamps and free housing. If you are willing to work, someone will find something for you to DO...real work...and make sure that your family does not go hungry or you don't get the medical treatment, or even psychiatric treatment they need.
5) Home town heroes come home from war and don't tell "stories" to try to convince us how horrible war is. Home town America already knows how terrible it is. They instead put those horrible memories on the back shelf, roll up their sleeves and get to work. They will remind their children and grandchildren how GREAT this country is and they will suffer in silence with their memories. They don't flock to the VA for assistance or medical care, instead they work hard for what they have and use it wisely. Each and every one of them served out of a sense of loyalty to their country. They hold no ill will to the "enemy" other than the threat to freedom and the American way of life....to the pursuit of happiness and liberty.
6) Few among them hold ill will towards anyone who is willing to pull their own weight, if able. If unable, they are the first ones to offer a helping hand. They are the ones that hold the door for the next person out the door, or open the door for someone at the local convenience store...they are the ones that ask "how ya doin?" and are genuinely interested in how others are doing. they believe that life begins at conception, because there are NO unwanted babies in the community, they know someone who wants a baby, and that life is to be cherished, not a matter of convenience.

I could go on and on....

What an excellent post, you could have been describing my small country town or thousands of others across america where traditional american values are still alive and well. I recently sold my old pickup and the guy that bought it called me up a couple days later wanting to know if there was a trick to get the keys out of the ignition. We both laughed when i explained that they were probably just stuck because they hadnt been out in 4 years. We can only pray that this way of life will exist for our children and grandchildren.

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Posted by Wingman66 on 11-12-2012 02:37 PM:

Well said truly.

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Posted by Wingman66 on 11-12-2012 02:40 PM:

quote:
Fact: If the facts don't add up, something is wrong.

Here's another FACT - Romney lost.

Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-12-2012 05:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
Here's another FACT - Romney lost.

http://www.enterstageright.com/arch...ectionfraud.htm

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...Mlv#thank-you=p

"In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote,"

HMMMMMMMMM

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Posted by trackdriver on 11-13-2012 01:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Oak Ridge
http://www.enterstageright.com/arch...ectionfraud.htm

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...Mlv#thank-you=p

"In one county alone in Ohio, which was a battleground state, President Obama received 106,258 votes...but there were only 98,213 eligible voters. It's not humanly possible to get 108% of the vote,"

HMMMMMMMMM

ANOTHER U.F.O. SIGHTING!!

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Posted by truly on 11-13-2012 02:04 AM:

From CBS:
And the outcome is not at all out of step with recent history - in 2008, 57 divisions in Philadelphia returned zero votes for then-GOP nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain. And in 2004, a more Republican-friendly election year, five Philadelphia divisions shut out former President George W. Bush entirely.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 11-13-2012 02:17 AM:

I couldn't tell ya the answer BUT I can tell ya. If you go to the big city around here. You better have sidearm on for protection. If you forget it. Stop in here. I'll let ya borrow one. To find the city parts of town in Ga. Just look at the blue votes on the state map. I stay the heck outta there. The news crews must like it though. That's where all the news happens. Mostly bad!

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Posted by john Duemmer on 11-13-2012 08:45 PM:

Just got back a couple weeks ago from 3 funfilled days in Atlanta. Our 2 oldest sons have been down there about 5 years and we went to attend the oldest boys wedding. Never ever have i seen such a collection of wierdos and fruitcakes. My wife and new daughter inlaw are both teachers and spent some time discussing school systems and student achievment so i have sound reason to believe that the inner city blue vote is for the most part based on ignorance and lack of education. Truly would have us believe these big cities are meccas of higher education but it just aint so. Those city schools are so bad that they actually control the real estate market.

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Posted by groworg1 on 11-13-2012 09:29 PM:

hello its about colleges not high schools university of buffalo or rochester or syracuse not rochester high voting age is 18 not 15 wake up john most big cities have big colleges and where do there students come from the country !

Posted by john Duemmer on 11-13-2012 09:41 PM:

The percentage of the voting population in those big cities that graduate from those prestigeous colleges is very small statistically speaking compared to the ignorant masses that carry the vote and most of them flee the city after graduation. Only the ignorant can ignore the fact that unstainable spending will destroy our country. It doesnt require a math degree to understand that their arent enough rich folks to pillage for a way out of this financial mess.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 11-13-2012 09:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
Just got back a couple weeks ago from 3 funfilled days in Atlanta. Our 2 oldest sons have been down there about 5 years and we went to attend the oldest boys wedding. Never ever have i seen such a collection of wierdos and fruitcakes. My wife and new daughter inlaw are both teachers and spent some time discussing school systems and student achievment so i have sound reason to believe that the inner city blue vote is for the most part based on ignorance and lack of education. Truly would have us believe these big cities are meccas of higher education but it just aint so. Those city schools are so bad that they actually control the real estate market.

Let me tell ya how really smart they are in one of them bigger cities counties around hotlanta. They elected a sheriff thats in jail.. LMAO! Aint no doubt they were a blue county!

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Posted by groworg1 on 11-13-2012 10:21 PM:

john if what you say is true why do 2 of your kids live in the city ?

Posted by john Duemmer on 11-13-2012 10:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by groworg1
john if what you say is true why do 2 of your kids live in the city ?

Ya know i ask em that very ? every time we talk, just to bust their balls. The answer is that they both have 6 figure jobs in an industry that only exists in a BIG city.

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Posted by trackdriver on 11-13-2012 11:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Let me tell ya how really smart they are in one of them bigger cities counties around hotlanta. They elected a sheriff thats in jail.. LMAO! Aint no doubt they were a blue county!

GA.Dawg that also happen here in an arkansas county awhile back,red county. He went to jail, the county got sued and lost, he was elected again. Red county!! LOL!!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 11-13-2012 11:56 PM:

Track this ones in jail now and was for the election and before it. It wouldn't matter if it was a red county. They'd still be idiots in my mind

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Posted by headless01 on 11-18-2012 07:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
Here's another FACT - Romney lost.

HE SAID SOMETHING IS WRONG!!!
THERE ARE ALOT OF FACTS IN THE WORLD TODAY, AND MOST EVERYBODY KNOWS THEIR WRONG, BUT MANY REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

Posted by Rip on 11-18-2012 03:14 PM:

Truly left out a few things as to why big cities are blue.

1. They are raised in a culture of helplessness and entitlement. They can't grow a garden, they can't hunt and know absolutely nothing about how to care for themselves and expect others to do it for them. That comes from generations of living in our taxpayer provided housing in an area that can't sustain them. They know how to survive on the streets with deception, theft and illegal activities. It's easy to buy their vote because that's all they know.

2. His "great education" is a myth. Those schools for the most part are awful, and the students are being taught by teachers that aren't good enough to get out of those awful schools so they have that same entitlement mentality. Must have gubment protection in the form of tenure so they teach the kids that gubment is the answer. There are a few great teachers in there that just want to make a difference in a kids life, but for the most part those that are forced to teach in those failing schools are there because they can't really cut it and after all they have tenure so ya can't fire them. Gotta put them somewhere so they get sent where the better teachers don't want to go. As for college? Well lots of times there is a good college around but that is a bastion of liberal indoctrination. Liberals are very racist, intolerant and reek of croneyism. They refuse to hire anything but other liberals. In one study that looked at it the liberal college administrators justified it by saying they really weren't intolerant they were just afraid a conservative couldn't be objective so that's why they only hired liberals. They admitted that they would not hire a conservative person as a professor but in true liberal form they could find a justification for it.........LMBO. They don't realize there are plenty of intelligent people with a strong enough mind to think for themselves and leave the college with the degree but not the indoctrinated mind.

3. In a crowd people with things to hide are easier hidden. That's why the big city attracts so many liberals. In a small town if you are a thief word gets out and you don't have many targets. There may only be one or two stores so if you are banned from going in them, or they are on to your shoplifting and watch you then you are out of luck. In a big city you just blend in, you are just one more liberal thief in the crowd. Make this person mad, well you don't need to go around them again. Plenty more people to take things from. Just move on to the next patsy. It's easier to make your ill gotten gains and remain anonymous in a large crowd.

Make no mistake this election wasn't about ideas. It was about bribery plain and simple. It is what our founding fathers warned us about. Once you get the percentage of parasites high enough to control the vote and vote themselves more of the fruits of the providers labor the country will die. I had predicted we had hit that point, and this election shows that.

This election was bought and paid for with taxpayer money in the form of gubment handouts. It will only get worse. It was part of Obamas plan to have that 40% INCREASE in foodstamps. It was part of his plan to have an INCREASE in the amount of people getting disability. That's why all that taxpayer money was given to the unions and other "voting blocks". It has nothing to do with compassion and everything to do with BUYING votes and more gubment control. They know that they control almost every single one of those people that they claim to "help". They have complete control because the longer they depend on the gubment the less they can do for themselves. It's their way of keeping the unwashed masses in their place so they can be comfortable in their ivory tower. That's the real Democratic party, throwing money at people they consider inferior in order to "keep them in their place" and away from them.

People are not going to vote against their handout, the more people you have on handouts the easier they are to control and the easier it is for you to keep control because you buy their vote.

Nobody is gonna beat Santa Clause. That's what this election was all about.

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