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Posted by devan131313 on 08-19-2012 09:55 PM:

feist being recognized as coon dog

a lot people have been saying feists should be a recognized coon dog that you can hunt in ukc night hunts yes or no


Posted by walkerdogman85 on 08-19-2012 11:01 PM:

if they can tree coon i dont see why the shouldnt be able to compete

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Posted by nccatfisher on 08-19-2012 11:32 PM:

I would say they can in a cur&feist coon hunt, curs can't hunt in hound hunts either.

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Posted by devan131313 on 08-20-2012 01:25 AM:

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I would say they can in a cur&feist coon hunt, curs can't hunt in hound hunts either.


i may be wrong but believe the 7 hounds classified as a coonhound are walker,bluetick,plott,redbone,english, black and tanand cur


Posted by nccatfisher on 08-20-2012 01:49 AM:

Curs aren't unless they just were recently put in. Leopard curs were recently given hound status.

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Posted by FOGHORN43725 on 08-20-2012 04:02 AM:

black n tan,leopard hound,bluetick,english,plott,redbone,walker thats the 7 breeds of hounds

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Posted by capstan on 08-20-2012 04:14 AM:

I don't think they should be able to hunt in the hound cast.


Posted by skeets on 08-20-2012 08:33 AM:

i dont see anything wrong hunting a fiest in a coon hunt


Posted by moodyhound on 08-20-2012 02:21 PM:

I think all the hounds, curs, and feists ought to be able to be put in the same squirrel and coon hunts. Throw them in together, let the best one win.

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Posted by walkerdogman85 on 08-20-2012 02:34 PM:

x2 moodyhound

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Posted by lfrisbie on 08-20-2012 04:14 PM:

This subjest has been beat to death and bottom line is how many would go and hunt in the hunts against a hound and answer to that is probably none. Heck most of you don't even hunt in the Cur & Feist hunts

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Posted by devan131313 on 08-20-2012 09:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lfrisbie
This subjest has been beat to death and bottom line is how many would go and hunt in the hunts against a hound and answer to that is probably none. Heck most of you don't even hunt in the Cur & Feist hunts
i would


Posted by price griffin on 08-20-2012 11:13 PM:

I would hunt with the hounds! I do pleasure hunting anyways so it wouldnt be any different. Our club starting next year hopefully are going to add the cur and fiest cast at our regular hunts so anybody that can come we would be glad to have ya!

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Posted by lfrisbie on 08-21-2012 01:34 PM:

Why aren't you hunting in the PKC hunts then you can hunt against hounds there

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Posted by amazingcursouth on 08-22-2012 03:14 AM:

i will hunt against hounds and have hunted against hounds. not a bit scared to cast them. I sold one recently who has put it on several hounds and here he is doing the same now.

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Posted by l.lyle on 08-22-2012 05:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by amazingcursouth
i will hunt against hounds and have hunted against hounds. not a bit scared to cast them. I sold one recently who has put it on several hounds and here he is doing the same now.


Correct me if I am wrong but I thought you were promoting a special line of Walkers that crossed well. But I had no clue you were talking about feist crossbrreds . I thought you hunted and bred CROSSBREEDS. I have no problem breeding different brands of HOUNDS. But ,Feists'sss? , Come on and get real!. that extra special brand of Walker you rave about can only do so much , LOL He can't make a hunter toting a white cane see again. Or can he? Lets hear the bragadocious. LOL


Posted by KYredordead on 08-22-2012 10:15 AM:

I honestly think that the people that dont want them to hunt in competitions are scared that their big named dogs will get beat by a real coondog. I say let them hunt, and when they do ill bring my cur to cast with yalls actual hounds (:


Posted by coondogedog on 08-22-2012 01:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lfrisbie
Why aren't you hunting in the PKC hunts then you can hunt against hounds there


Folks may not like PKC hunts as much as UKC hunts.

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Posted by amazingcursouth on 08-22-2012 03:13 PM:

I hunt Treeing Curs, Hounds and cur crossed. More cur than hound in the dogs i have. Yes i do have a Gr nite walker hound but I have never crossed him onto curs or feist. But I have hunted against hounds with success with my curs. Don't know about the feist and how they would do. never owned one.

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Posted by amazingcursouth on 08-22-2012 07:36 PM:

and as far as the crossbreeding. I all for trying new things and i believe that crossbred dogs should be allowed to hunt in the UKC hound events. And what i mean by crossbred is that is must have one coonhound parent. But i also think that to be a treeing cur it should have both parents from tree dog line. cur/hound, cur/feist, hound/feist etc.

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Posted by lfrisbie on 08-23-2012 08:01 PM:

They can hunt against hounds and that is what they are saying that is what they want. Probably more chin music than anything else or they would.

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Posted by moodyhound on 08-24-2012 03:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lfrisbie
They can hunt against hounds and that is what they are saying that is what they want. Probably more chin music than anything else or they would.

But they can't hunt against hounds in UKC, I think is the problem they are referring to. For example if I had a cur dog ready to hunt against hounds around here in PKC, there would only be 10 or 12 a year close enough to drive to. If UKC would open up the hound events to include curs and feists, I could hunt in 30 or 40 a year, that were close enough to drive to.

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Posted by lfrisbie on 08-24-2012 03:22 PM:

Bottom line is no one is hunting against hounds in PKC so that really shows no interest. These same men don't hunt in the Cur Fest events. If they can't compete on that level they sure as heck can't compete on the hound level. I am sure UKC doesn't really see any real interest on the part of the Cur & Feist people to make that venture only a little complaining. The Cur & Feist people haven't earned the right to compete in the hound events. Look at the amount of people that enter their hounds in the world hunt. Autum Oaks, Winter Classic to name a few. The Cur & Feist people don't even hunt in their own World Hunt.

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Posted by nccatfisher on 08-25-2012 12:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by moodyhound
But they can't hunt against hounds in UKC, I think is the problem they are referring to. For example if I had a cur dog ready to hunt against hounds around here in PKC, there would only be 10 or 12 a year close enough to drive to. If UKC would open up the hound events to include curs and feists, I could hunt in 30 or 40 a year, that were close enough to drive to.
You got to get 'em registered UKC first. LOL

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Posted by price griffin on 08-26-2012 03:12 PM:

Loyd I see you hunt and promote the black mouth cur and seem to do a good job with it but sounds like your bashing everything anybody has to say about competing with the hounds? Theirs not but a few people around here that hunt a cur dog so we hunt with hounds all the time and from what I have hunted the hounds nor the curs will get the best of one another a hundred percent of the time. I have a good time hunting with the hounds and have people ask me to go hunting because they have never been in the woods with a cur dog. As far as the fiest as hounds go I think thats alittle far fetched but I dont rule out the idea of the cur dogs competing with the hounds at all. I havent ever been to a pkc hunt but I will get to one and read up on the rules..and our club is hopefully going to add the cur and fiest cast next year to try and promote a few more people to hunt them in the ukc events wheather it be in the coon hunt or the squirrel hunt.

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