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Posted by clintonmesserjr on 08-17-2012 01:21 AM:

dr law ?

just curious to why alot of people are breeding to him? as far as i can tell he is just a pr dog with no pkc money just curious?so he must be a coondog!

Posted by john Duemmer on 08-17-2012 01:37 AM:

Never ever heard anyone say they saw the dog tree a coon.

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Posted by C Zink on 08-17-2012 02:53 AM:

I have one out of him and redgy's poison ivy female. He is one of the best acting puppies I have had in a long time bold ,smart , good looking and a very nice mouth I like him . Before I bought the pup I asked redgy why he bred to him and he said he had hunted with him several times and he was a pretty nice dog.

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Posted by R_Wilson on 08-17-2012 02:58 AM:

you can bet if redgy bred to him he s nice!

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Posted by clintonmesserjr on 08-17-2012 03:36 AM:

law

wonder why he has not been put in any hunts?or is the guy that owns him just a pleasure hunter

Posted by Virgil on 08-17-2012 03:41 AM:

Re: law

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wonder why he has not been put in any hunts?or is the guy that owns him just a pleasure hunter

He has been put in the hunts. He just hasn't won any of them.

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Posted by BIG HAROLD on 08-17-2012 04:12 AM:

Ha-ha...... I'm not gonna say anything

Posted by GLANCY'S 7 MILE on 08-17-2012 07:51 AM:

I know nothing about the dog or his owner and wish both the best, but something tells me good advertisement and a name or two on his papers goes a long ways!!! I'm not trying to take anything away from the dog as he could be the NEXT BIG THING, but it just seems like they started breeding the dog when he him self was still a puppy.

I personally want a stud that performs at a high level in the woods, at the night hunts, and in the stud pen. He him self is still young, as are his pups, so will see in the future if this really was the LITTER OF IMPACT.

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Posted by monstermash on 08-17-2012 12:58 PM:

somewhere down the road i'll have a pup , or a litter from dr law .
i think he is big and beautiful and can get it done !

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 08-17-2012 03:06 PM:

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Originally posted by monstermash
somewhere down the road i'll have a pup , or a litter from dr law .
i think he is big and beautiful and can get it done !

You seen it first hand?

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Posted by clintonmesserjr on 08-17-2012 08:12 PM:

law

i also think a dogs needs to prove himself in the hunts before i would would breed to it just my opinion!

Posted by monstermash on 08-17-2012 08:51 PM:

lipper is in about everything out there , i know that i love my female out of tj's stylish lipper .she has that beautiful mouth.
i think lipper diffently left his mark ,i have a pup out of my tj female that i would down the road bred to dr law or on some cade semen .tom hopkins and lipper did a outstanding job and made there mark in history some love it ,and some hate it ... my hat goes off to the man and his dog [ old lipper ]

Posted by CSnowgren on 08-18-2012 01:37 AM:

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Originally posted by monstermash
lipper is in about everything out there , i know that i love my female out of tj's stylish lipper .she has that beautiful mouth.
i think lipper diffently left his mark ,i have a pup out of my tj female that i would down the road bred to dr law or on some cade semen .tom hopkins and lipper did a outstanding job and made there mark in history some love it ,and some hate it ... my hat goes off to the man and his dog [ old lipper ]

So is that a yes or a no? Did you see him go or didn't you?

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Posted by publicresp. on 08-18-2012 01:44 AM:

maybe he dreamed it.

Posted by BIG HAROLD on 08-18-2012 03:09 AM:

I HAVE!!!!!! enough said

Posted by R_Wilson on 08-18-2012 03:26 AM:

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Originally posted by KyKoonHunter32
but it just seems like they started breeding the dog when he him self was still a puppy.

He was 9 months old when hopkins bred him the first time.

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Posted by walker1978 on 08-18-2012 05:02 AM:

people say papers dont make the dog but when you got a set of papers like law does id say it does. why else would you breed a dog when its still a pup. i dont know the dog or mr. hopkins but im sure as long as he has been in this game that there is something about law that he seen witch tells him hes is gonna be a great coondog. i hope he is cause from what i seen of him he is a good lookin dog and i might wanna breed to him some day myself.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 08-18-2012 05:18 AM:

Its simple. Dogs get bred everyday based off riding the coat tails and accomplishments of other dogs somewhere in the dogs pedigree.

Why on earth would anyone breed to a dog that hasn't proved anything when there's a pile of terrific males out there that have won thousands of dollars in PKC.

Let me tell you this. The ones that say they dont like PKC or won't hunt it are simply afraid of getting out classed and out dogged on a regular basis. Any other reason is just an excuse and goes with my statement above. Especially of someone has the money to run the hunts here and there. They don't for no other reason then fear of not having the dog power.

Posted by Rip on 08-18-2012 05:33 AM:

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Its simple. Dogs get bred everyday based off riding the coat tails and accomplishments of other dogs somewhere in the dogs pedigree.

Why on earth would anyone breed to a dog that hasn't proved anything when there's a pile of terrific males out there that have won thousands of dollars in PKC.

Let me tell you this. The ones that say they dont like PKC or won't hunt it are simply afraid of getting out classed and out dogged on a regular basis. Any other reason is just an excuse and goes with my statement above. Especially of someone has the money to run the hunts here and there. They don't for no other reason then fear of not having the dog power.

Just absolutely positively wrong. How in the world do you keep coming up with these crazy half cocked theories of yours? Everybody is different and different registries are run different depending on where they are at etc.

I knew a guy that would not hunt PKC. Had a dog that could win the big ones, won a state championship etc. but just did not like that registry.

He put the dog in 3 PKC hunts, WON ALL THREE but hated every minute of it and never went back. He had three "bad" hunts in a row and even though he won the hunts he just didn't like it.

He wasn't afraid of any dog power, he won every PKC hunt he was in but he just hated those hunts. With that particular dog he WAS the dog power at every hunt he went to but that still didn't make him like hunting that registry. Different area of the country than yours, PKC was likely very different than what you are used to. Just wasn't for him even though he won every one he entered.

He don't hunt any more and that dog is dead but he proved in the hunts he had what it took, but he just personally did not like that registry.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 08-18-2012 06:51 AM:

Lets be realistic RIP, the good dogs finish out quick in UKC. Then what do you do with them? Any suggestions?

Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 08-18-2012 10:50 AM:

I don't think the registry makes the dog, its the amount of fur in the tree. Before somebody jumps the gun, I have hunted and won in different KC,s. If Dr. Law reproduces like his ancestors then he will be bred to regardless of titles. The comment was made about him being bred to because of his papers. True, aren't all dogs bred because of papers? Ancestory, the basis of 95% of all scheduled breedings. Every hunter likes different lines and that is what keeps those traits we desire in our hounds. In my personal opinion Mr. Hopkins knows a coondog and what it takes to be a stud dog. If he wants to breed his dog at six months old than it is his choice. If he is going to reproduce or not it doesn't matter if he is one or ten years old, titled or not. I personally don't put as much worth in hunt titles as I did fifteen years ago. If a dog will tree a coon half the time now then it can win a hunt title/money if put into enough hunts. My idea is wait a few years and see if his pups show as winners or at your local dog trader then we can resume this conversation.

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Posted by Knox on 08-18-2012 12:50 PM:

Right On.........

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Originally posted by nccoonhunter197
I don't think the registry makes the dog, its the amount of fur in the tree. Before somebody jumps the gun, I have hunted and won in different KC,s. If Dr. Law reproduces like his ancestors then he will be bred to regardless of titles. The comment was made about him being bred to because of his papers. True, aren't all dogs bred because of papers? Ancestory, the basis of 95% of all scheduled breedings. Every hunter likes different lines and that is what keeps those traits we desire in our hounds. In my personal opinion Mr. Hopkins knows a coondog and what it takes to be a stud dog. If he wants to breed his dog at six months old than it is his choice. If he is going to reproduce or not it doesn't matter if he is one or ten years old, titled or not. I personally don't put as much worth in hunt titles as I did fifteen years ago. If a dog will tree a coon half the time now then it can win a hunt title/money if put into enough hunts. My idea is wait a few years and see if his pups show as winners or at your local dog trader then we can resume this conversation.

.........I agree 100 percent..........good post.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 08-18-2012 02:47 PM:

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Originally posted by nccoonhunter197
I don't think the registry makes the dog, its the amount of fur in the tree. Before somebody jumps the gun, I have hunted and won in different KC,s. If Dr. Law reproduces like his ancestors then he will be bred to regardless of titles. The comment was made about him being bred to because of his papers. True, aren't all dogs bred because of papers? Ancestory, the basis of 95% of all scheduled breedings. Every hunter likes different lines and that is what keeps those traits we desire in our hounds. In my personal opinion Mr. Hopkins knows a coondog and what it takes to be a stud dog. If he wants to breed his dog at six months old than it is his choice. If he is going to reproduce or not it doesn't matter if he is one or ten years old, titled or not. I personally don't put as much worth in hunt titles as I did fifteen years ago. If a dog will tree a coon half the time now then it can win a hunt title/money if put into enough hunts. My idea is wait a few years and see if his pups show as winners or at your local dog trader then we can resume this conversation.

the male is only 50%,hell i would like to throw jane in with
my show dog just because its a gr dont mean its won anything.

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Posted by rghnd123 on 08-18-2012 03:27 PM:

JMO

If someone wants to breed to him go for it. If they don't more power to them. I have never seen the dog in a hunt around here. He may be a Coondog maybe not. Your not getting him your getting his offspring. I don't know why so much controversy is caused over this dog. Is it jealousy or what. If Hopkins wants to stud him out let him do it. If you want a pup get one if you don't buy another pup from a different sire. I am giving a non biased answer. Its the wrong breed for me. Although I am not color blind on a good one.

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 08-18-2012 03:31 PM:

Re: JMO

Originally posted by rghnd123
If someone wants to breed to him go for it. If they don't more power to them. I have never seen the dog in a hunt around here. He may be a Coondog maybe not. Your not getting him your getting his offspring. I don't know why so much controversy is caused over this dog. Is it jealousy or what. If Hopkins wants to stud him out let him do it. If you want a pup get one if you don't buy another pup from a different sire. I am giving a non biased answer. Its the wrong breed for me. Although I am not color blind on a good one.

Now thats it, jealousy or what? YES!!!

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