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Breeding A Half Brother To A Half Sister?

I was wondering if anyone has made a cross like this and what kind of results did you get? Do you think it's to close?

Making a cross like that you would have to be real familiar with what is behind the dogs and what your wanting to accomplish.

I have one out of a half brother/sister. He's a nice dog.

I would make a cross like that no problem. If I ever have two that are good enough to do it.

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I have never done it but herd its either awsome or awful but i'm sure its gamble just like any breeding.

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i have allways bred 1/2 bro to 1/2sis to go back and double up on the sires side , i just loved that ol dog . never had a bad pup . but when you do it be sure whatever side you are going back to is worth it cause you are doubleing up on it's traits good AND bad .

Shawn, That is about the only way you can keep a line going.
In the breeding world that is not really that close.
Think about it everytime you breed a different bloodline in, your washing out what you had, for better or for worse.
People are so funny these days about breeding, that cross you just said could go on for years before needing new blood.
I have done it with hounds, goats an cows, while maintaining top herds and people cant figure how I keep a consistant product? Only breed in new blood when it is a exact match to what you have. With that being said you have to Like, what you have.

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Think about it why are most of the ole lines hard to find?
Got famous, bred to everything that walked, most traits that were consistent with that line now watered down, or changed.
Everyone moves to the next hot topic, hoping the cross will work. And some will ! But rarely ever consistent.
Just look at some old breeders, Joe House, Winston Aaron etc..
It works with every other animal, do not know why dog people want it to be different?
I am not an expert, Just 30 plus years of breeding farm animals
and Treeing Walker Coonhounds,

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Thanks for all the replies. It's definetly gonna make it easier for me to make this cross. I've had the sire side of this bloodline now for 28 years ( crossbred walker/bluetick). Every generation has gotten better and better. The last cross i made produced the 2012 SPRING JUNIOR SUPERSTAKES CHAMPION DOUBLE AWT NUCK. This is the dog i plan on breeding to his half sister. I have often seen threads on here where people say crossbred dogs don't reproduce well, but they have reproduced pretty well for me. Double Awt Nuck's Sire and Dam were both half Walker and half Bluetick. I actually owned both of them as well. Thanks for all the help.

half bro. half sister does that mean they have the same mom
or dad.

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Yeah, both dogs are out of the same Sire diffrent Dams.

WE HAVE DONE THIS CAN BE VERY GOOD OR CAN BE A NIGHT MARE

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Most important thing, not being talked about, is A WORKING KNOWLEDGE of the hounds behind the cross your fixing to make.

If you don't know the parents , grandparents, and great grands, you will most likely be in for some surprises.

If you have some junk in the line, you can bet your rear end, it will rear it's ugly head.

But..... tight crosses allow you to possibly determine where the "junk" came from and completely eliminate it from your program. Thats why that working knowledge of the ancestors is so important.

Here's a side note too........

Be very careful who's word you take on ancestors in a pedigree!!

Janice Joplin is off a half brother , half sister cross. Her whole litter made coondogs

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Originally posted by joseph mcdonald
Most important thing, not being talked about, is A WORKING KNOWLEDGE of the hounds behind the cross your fixing to make.

If you don't know the parents , grandparents, and great grands, you will most likely be in for some surprises.

If you have some junk in the line, you can bet your rear end, it will rear it's ugly head.

But..... tight crosses allow you to possibly determine where the "junk" came from and completely eliminate it from your program. Thats why that working knowledge of the ancestors is so important.

Here's a side note too........

Be very careful who's word you take on ancestors in a pedigree!!

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10-4 Shawn. I wish you the best!

Have had a couple very well known breeders tell me to throw relationship out the window and look at the individuals traits.

gr nt ch wicks stylish thunder and gr nt ch stylish queen were half brother/sister,,,both off wicks stylish banjo.
they crossed them with great results.
but just being out of the same sire or dam aint a good reason to cross them.
they both must show the same traits as the thier common sire or dam and those are the traits you are trying to keep.
done for selective traits. - NITE HUNT WINS ARE NOT TRAITS.

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Originally posted by toe cutter
gr nt ch wicks stylish thunder and gr nt ch stylish queen were half brother/sister,,,both off wicks stylish banjo.
they crossed them with great results.
but just being out of the same sire or dam aint a good reason to cross them.
they both must show the same traits as the thier common sire or dam and those are the traits you are trying to keep.
done for selective traits. - NITE HUNT WINS ARE NOT TRAITS.

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just keep on a keepin on shawn . after you make the cross if you really liked the sire take the best gyp pups and throw them back on him wich would be their gransire and great gransire . iv'e got five generations of some ol catahoulas and hound crosses that i use on hogs there all out of my four origanall dogs a pair of cats , a plott gyp an a walker gyp and due to the exceptional quality of the ol male cat boudreaux. throwing the next generation of pups his way they just keep getting better and better . breeding them darn roosters since the 60's helped me learn alot about genetics and linebreeding . most all our genetic information came from the old rooster men , it's still being taught today bet ol sandy hatch wishes they'ed a had dna back then lol

cutter and anna

bred cutter out of harry and anna out of harry and that is what i hunt today. love it.

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I bred a son of Lipper to a daughter of Lipper different Dam . She had 6 pups Three of the females made NITECH. One of the males was stolen exceptional dog at 15 months ,One was kicked in the head by a horse and killed and Im not sure what happened to the other . This was in the late 80's when the hunts were packed .The female I kept produced a 16 month Dual Grand and 2 other NITECH . I enjoyed the results of that half brother sister cross for generations and 20+ years .I was prepared to spend a bullet or two but didnt have to . I will add that there is a pretty significant bone pile around here from pups that I purchased. Up until now the only dogs that made it that were not decendants from that mating was one male out of Mark Whatley's Ready . Now all my dogs are line bred lipper clover or coma blood . I have high hopes for them .Make the cross and dont be afraid to cull .

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would it be same if you breed a half bother half sister that had the same dam but differant sires?

1/2 to 1/2

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Originally posted by CONRAD FRYAR
Shawn, That is about the only way you can keep a line going.
In the breeding world that is not really that close.
Think about it everytime you breed a different bloodline in, your washing out what you had, for better or for worse.
People are so funny these days about breeding, that cross you just said could go on for years before needing new blood.
I have done it with hounds, goats an cows, while maintaining top herds and people cant figure how I keep a consistant product? Only breed in new blood when it is a exact match to what you have. With that being said you have to Like, what you have.

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