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Posted by Larry Atherton on 03-30-2006 05:10 PM:

What distance?

I don't know how everyone else is, but I like guns. I like to shot at a small target after a bad day. I get a sense of satisfaction from a small group dead on or nearly dead on. The bad part is I don't keep gun if they don't suit me. A new gun has a home for life if it impresses me. Shhhh ... don't tell anyone, but i even name them.lol

Anyway, I just recently got a new .22 and just put a brand new scope on it. I can't wait for the weekend to start throwing some lead. Just curious ... what distance does everyone sight their coon hunting .22?


PS It is a Savage Mark 1-G with a 2x-7x Mueller Red Dot Scope.

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Posted by chadf on 03-30-2006 05:19 PM:

usually around 50yrds.


Posted by Hiphop on 03-30-2006 05:21 PM:

A tight group at 25 yards has always worked for me.


Posted by Hump on 03-30-2006 05:25 PM:

I'm with you Larry, if you're not confident in your gun, you won't shoot it well.

For a coon gun, I sight mine in on the 25 yrd range. For squirrels and other small game, I use the 50 yrd range.

I bought a browning buckmark .22 rifle a year or two ago that was super small and lightweight with the carbon fiber barrel. $650 piece of junk! 5 1/2 inch group at 25 yrds with several different scopes on it, using every ammo brand I could find, and with different people shooting it. Browning ended up buying it back from me.

My .50 cal Knight inline on the other hand... You can stick two sabots in the same hole at 100 yrds. The third is always a little off. I shot a large doe two years ago at 163 yrds right through the middle of the chest directly where I was aiming.


Posted by Ben Crocker on 03-30-2006 06:38 PM:

Re: What distance?

quote:
Originally posted by Larry Atherton
I don't know how everyone else is, but I like guns. I like to shot at a small target after a bad day. I get a sense of satisfaction from a small group dead on or nearly dead on.



How often do you have these "bad" days? If its gives you satisfaction drilling them side-by-side, I'd just sight it in for a couple of yards. If you plan to coon hunt or poach deer you might want to sight it in a little farther. Check with the Teacher on distances for hunts above j/k

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Posted by capt_agricultur on 03-30-2006 06:51 PM:

100 ft


Posted by on 03-30-2006 07:29 PM:

I sight my coon rifle at the same distance the average coon is shot at.....60feet.


Posted by Hump on 03-30-2006 07:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I sight my coon rifle at the same distance the average coon is shot at.....60feet.


JiM's rifle is programmed for automatic kill. I swear the first time he ever handed it to me, I didn't even have a chance to look through the scope and the gun went off. That coon came out deader than a door nail! I think his gun hates coon more than his dogs do!


Posted by on 03-30-2006 07:49 PM:

32 ounces of trigger pull. Anything else is just another Bluetick.


Posted by Larry Atherton on 03-30-2006 08:08 PM:

Jim,

How did ya come up with 60 feet as the average distance?

Ben,

Are ya talking about just one more box Eagan???????? I have stories about his shooting prowess.lol

Thanks guys, I usually use 30 yards, but begin to wonder as many rimfire shooters use 25 and 50 yards.

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Posted by on 03-30-2006 09:15 PM:

I came up with 60 feet after much research and scientific probing, plus I poured over many aticles on selective breeding and seed corn growing. Then after that, I just guessed.


Posted by Larry Atherton on 03-30-2006 09:31 PM:

LOL, boy sure would you fit in around here!LOL

Actually, many years ago I was taught how to measure the height of a tree with a pencil. Hmmm ... maybe we could do some field research. I am sure there probably is a federal grant we could apply for to determine just how high coons climb.LOL

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Posted by Hump on 03-30-2006 09:47 PM:

JiM uses Newton's law of gravity. I've seen him pull his stop watch out when he hands his gun to others. He then measured the time it took for the coon to hit the ground. Over the years JiM has a long record of the times it takes coon to hit the dirt. He found the average by taking the sum of all of the times and dividing that sum by the number of times recorded. That time was found to be 1.86422 seconds. (JiM is quick with a stop watch)

With that time he was able to measure the distance that the coon is in the tree.

Acceleration (in this case known as gravity) is measured in m/s (meters per second). g=9.81 m/s Using this equation g x s = m he was able to determine that the average distance the coon was from the ground was 18.288 meters.

Once he found that distance, he had to convert from metric to english. 1 inch = 25.4 mm There are 1000 mm in every meter. Therefore 1 inch = .0254 m. There is 12 inches in every foot. Therefore 12 x .0254 = .3048.

18.288/.3048 = 60 ft.


Posted by on 03-30-2006 10:23 PM:

Yeah....what he said.


Posted by Brandon Eagan on 03-30-2006 10:39 PM:

larry

The teacher her I use 30 yard to myself. I know for a fact it can kill a deer from 50 yard in the head that a differnt story LoL

boys you guys have to much time on your hand

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Posted by boondocks on 03-31-2006 03:11 AM:

Teacher,larry ben

A 22lr sited in at 65 yard sould be able to shoot from 20yards out to 100yards close enought to kill a coon if you do your part . I have burned alot of shells up playing around just to see how well i can do.If you have time give it a try sometime. See you boys at great northern.


Posted by DOUG CHEEK on 03-31-2006 03:40 AM:

JIM is like those two guys trying to measure a flay pole --they couldn,t get the tape to reach the top of the pole than came HUMP a long and said to the two men to lay the pole down and measure it --the one guy said we don't want know how long it is --we want to know how tall it is

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Posted by C. Beyer on 03-31-2006 03:40 AM:

I usually sight in at 35 then move to 50. I am accurate(confident) at 100 yds.

60 feet, I would only question that answer due to mass and resistence..9.81 m/s is without wind resistence or hitting branches on the way down..just my 2 cents worth

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Posted by Bruce Conkey on 03-31-2006 03:58 AM:

Larry I don't know about measuring a tree with a pencil but I do know plenty of coon have been manafactured in a tree with a pencil.

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Posted by Wes Coffman on 03-31-2006 04:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hump
I bought a browning buckmark .22 rifle a year or two ago that was super small and lightweight with the carbon fiber barrel. $650 piece of junk! 5 1/2 inch group at 25 yrds with several different scopes on it, using every ammo brand I could find, and with different people shooting it. Browning ended up buying it back from me.


I have the same gun and its a tack driver. Got mine last year, maybe they made some improvements? I have a small 4x32 scope on it and love it.


Posted by honalieh on 03-31-2006 04:47 AM:

Sighting In

I sight in free hand, since that's how I'll be shooting in the woods. I shoot in groups of 3. If I get 3 good shots that can be covered by a quarter-sized bullseye, I'm feeling pretty good. I then estimate the distance I was shooting from.

After that, it's my dogs job to tree a coon where the shot will match the distance that I sighted my gun in at (whatever distance that is). If my dogs don't do their job properly and put the coon (and my shot) at the right distance, I'm liable to shoot and miss. They should know better than that!!! :-)

Seriously, I love my red dot scope. Makes a huge difference!


Posted by Hump on 03-31-2006 02:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wes Coffman
I have the same gun and its a tack driver. Got mine last year, maybe they made some improvements? I have a small 4x32 scope on it and love it.


I'm glad yours has done well for you. I wish mine would have. I really like the small package. It was hard for me to shoot off hand because it was so light. Every little twitch and breath, and it was all over the place.

Have you ever tried shooting it from a bench vise? I got my results from a vise with different ammo. Just standing to the side and pulling the trigger. The grouping was horrible.


Posted by Wes Coffman on 03-31-2006 03:14 PM:

I sighted it in from a bench vise using plain old remington 22 ammo at 30 yards. It was over a year ago, but I believe I put 5 consecutive shots within a 1 in group. When I knock one out with it I usually run my arm through the sling to steady it even more, not that you really need to, just what works for me. I am by no means an expert marksman, but the coon is usually on the ground in two or less shots. Had buddies put them out in one as well.

They make one with a bull barrel on it, that I would assume should be even more accurate. You would sacrifice the super light-weight that you get with the carbon barrel, but weight and length would still be pretty minimal.


Posted by DOC on 03-31-2006 04:28 PM:

some good tips-thoughts... am a gun dealer and the buckmark has apparently had problems with consistency, the fiber barrel models... some are deadly and others just don't seem to have the accuracy necessary... am a .22 fan and have more than a sane man should probably have or need... personally use an anschutz woodchucker, small-light-compact and very good shooter.. also use hi-std. bolt action that is accurate, but a bigger gun, have shot many-many with a remington nylon 66 short only model... shoot very few coon now, learned by experience over many yrs.most dogs do not need-operate better with very few coon coon or none, breeding is key... also use a S&W model 35 j frame, 6" barrel a bit, often still haul a gun, but very rarely shoot it much.. not a fan of the red dot or laser alone, but might try a mueller scope with the dot, prefer the traditional scope... do sight in using a bench, but always shoot free hand as a check, used to do more free hand, but age has kinda made the rest helpful... some guns will shoot different ammo better than other brands... think sight info provided will do the job, 25 yds. or even out to 50 should work under most conditions... good shooting...


Posted by Larry Atherton on 03-31-2006 05:14 PM:

Doug and Bruce thanks for the laughs those were good.

boondock,

Close enough isn't what I am looking for, I want to be able to put it in an eye or ear.

Doc,

An Anschutz!!!!! I am not Donald Trump.lol Just a working class guy here.

Good, bad, or indifferent, I will post a picture of my results after the fun this weekend.

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