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Dog Health Question!!!

The other evening, I went down to feed and my old hound (9.5 yrs. old) was unable toget to his feet. I fed him and he ate everything. Then I called the vets, and with it being christmas no one was in. The next morning I was expecting him to be dead, but he was still hanging in there. His eyes were clear and body temp. seemed to be normal. I brought him inside and gave him some antibiotics and fashioned a rig to raise him up to his feet a few times a day for a short time. After doing this a couple days he has improved some, but not much. He still has a good apetite, and has has bowel movements. Even woke me up Christmas morning howling, but he still can not get his feet under him. Any one know what may be wrong with him. Thanks!!!

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My first guess would be back or arthuritis. Did you try a coated asprin with a little food. If he had a hard night of hunting he may of pulled something in his back. cold or sudden weather changes can also bring on this type of condition in older dogs. try to keep him calm and give him an asprin in the AM and see how he goes from there.

what about coonhound paralysis?

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Originally posted by Lynn Wilson
what about coonhound paralysis?

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I once had an 8 yr old Rottweiler that woke up one morning and couldnt get to her feet.....like Chad said he may have pulled somethin or its possible he has a pinched nerve, and the inflamation is making it too painful for him to get up....if you could get him to the vet, i bet they'd give him a shot of cortizone.....thats what they did to my Rottie and she was good as new by that evening.....

I ruled out Coon hound paralysis, because it is caused shortly after being bitten by a coon, and he hasn't been hunted in awhile. Finally got him to the vet this afternoon. He said he had arthitis in his hind quarters and gave him a shot and some pilss. Said warm bed, warm food, andmedications prescribed were on his agenda. Also said not to let him lay on his side for extended periods. Said he would get fluid in his inner ear, and that in turn would effect his balance. I also have a book on hound health, and it said in there, that in dogs with arthitis you could give them glucosamine sulfate. It said a 50 pound dog could take 1000 mg a day. Thought this may help someone else.

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It's good to hear that it wasnt anything more serious....

the glucosamine will help but don't expect results for a few months and make sure you are consistent giving it to him. hope the old man feels better soon

Just as a side note, coonhound paralysis can be caused by other things besides a coon bite. Recent vaccinations, non-bite injury, etc. Several things can cause it, not just the coon bite.

If my memory serves me right before my second coffee of the morning, coon hound paralysis doesn't have to be from a recent bite. It can have a delayed onset as long as a year. Then it can reoccur periodically through a dog's life from initial onset of the disease.

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Thanks for the info. I was unawre of that. My hound seems to be doing some what better. He can stand now, and walk a little, however he still has trouble. He is still very unstable and falls easily. I plan on calling the vet today, and see what his opinion is on his situation.

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O.K. many references to coonhound paralyssis do state it has a 7-10 day onset.

Also, many sources of information state this is an autoimmune system problem that acts on the nervous system outside of the central nervous system. The other catch is no one knows the exact agent that causes it. Some have suggested it may be as simple as a specific protein that the immune systems acts upon.

Coonhound paralysis (CHP) is also known in technical terms as acute idiopathic polyradiculoneuritis. Below is one article of many that are available by doing on-line searches.

http://www.vetpathology.org/cgi/content/full/39/1/146

Here are a couple of quotes from the above article:

"has been reported in dogs w/o history of inciting stimulus."

"Syndromes that may be classified chronic polyradiculoneuritis include relasping polyradiculoneuritis."

It seems to me there are still many more questions than answers when it comes to CHP or similar acting diseases. I say anyone's best bet is to work closely with their vet and to ask as many questions as possible and never rule anything out.

Also as a side note, there is a genetic component to this disease, but the mode of inheritance is unknown.

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Aim small miss small

I had a redbone dog who was just like what you are describing.
It was coon dog paralysis.
He could not stand up and move at all. My wife would get him between her legs and walk him outside to use it. This went on for weeks.
To start he could stand on his back legs, but his front legs would not work he would just fall. His chin hitting the ground.
Finally after 3-4 months or more he could stand alone. We kept him in a closet in our furnace room to keep him from chilling. It was the dead of winter and the vet said to keep him wram.
He did fully recover
We let him run loose for the remainder of his life. He would go back in the woods and tree. I would go to him when I heard him.
Finally one day he did not come back. Sometime later I found his collar by the creek in the woods behind our house.
It will take time and patience, but your dog could make it too.
Happy Hunging

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jmg, I see you are from Salem. What vet did you take your dog to? I took mine to Benny Moore. I live just west of Corydon

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Originally posted by Perry Fraze
jmg, I see you are from Salem. What vet did you take your dog to? I took mine to Benny Moore. I live just west of Corydon

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jmg

We too go to that vet, but I think you are like me and sometimes hit the wrong keywhen on this dang thing!, lol because the vet's name is Dr. Brester. Jeff use to work for him too, he is very knowledgeable. We don't know what we will do when he retires, no one else like him in these parts.

Years ago Jeff had a little redbone female that impaled herself on a limb while hunting, Jeff called Doc at 3 am and he met him at the office and fixed her right up. He is very reasonable on his fees too. The last time we took our hounds to him for their annual check up for 2 hounds to be checked for heart worms, intestinal parasites adn get vaccinations was $38.00.

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this is second hand

but one of my redbone friends who also has Great Danes has an older Dane with disc compression problems in her neck. This lady goes to the a very well-informed vet who always tries the latest cures. This is an excerpt from an email she recently sent:

Sidney, My nearly 9 y/o Rescued Great Dane, started having bad rear problems, along with neurological problems... (Due to the swelling/ compression on the nerves.. ) Our vet put Sid on rimadyl ( against my liking) and a newer homeopathic anti-inflammatory tablet called Zeel! Thanks to the Zeel, the swelling is subsiding & relieving the pressure on the nerves...after just a few weeks of the Zeel ( and acupuncture ) Sid is nearly off the Rimadyl & up and running like a lunatic again!!

You might try asking your vet about the Zeel. I'd never heard of it before. I have given Rimadyl to dogs before, it works well for short term problems but can cause liver problems when used long term. And I've never tried acupuncture ...

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