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Posted by coon dawg on 05-24-2005 05:57 PM:

any pictures of Houses Cruze or Lawyer??

could ya post one if ya have it??..............thanks in advance......

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Posted by jay brademeyer on 05-24-2005 07:21 PM:

i hunted with old cruze and mac little joe back in 89. they were both nice hounds . they had impressive classic loud hound mouths.

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Posted by coon dawg on 05-25-2005 11:37 AM:

thanks Jay......

I'm huntin a dog that has both of them and Lawyer in his pedigree...............he also has a booming, loud bawl mouth....big dog........

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Posted by John McClanahan on 05-25-2005 12:37 PM:

I owned Lawyer from a pup till I sold him to Tom Hopkins at 2 years old. I have some pictures of him, but can't figure out how to post them. He was solid blanketback with a dark red head, also had a black band across it like Lipper. Tall, leggy dog. between 65 and 70 lbs. Loudest dog ever born when he got treed. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone who hunted with him. Been looking for one that sounded like him for over 20 years, no luck so far. Had some littermates to him, but they wern't as loud as Lawyer. Joe House said once that if Lawyer had of lived a long life, that he would probably go down as the best stud that he had ever owned.

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Posted by coon dawg on 05-25-2005 12:42 PM:

thanks, John..........

Lawyer is my hounds Grand sire on his sire's side..........just tryin to get some info on the dog's in his pedigree...........

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Posted by TW Knox on 05-25-2005 08:21 PM:

Lawyer

I really like the Lawyer bred hounds. My old female that died was a Grand-pup to him. I have a hound here that is not 2 yet, a Grand-son to Lipper on top and a Grand-son to Double Tough Lawyer on bottom, his mother is House's Candy, now owned by Jeff Duvall and Tom Bates. He has a HUGE HUGE HUGE Mouth on tree, marked up on his back about like old Lipper. I will try post a picture of him on here, and see if I can find one of Lawyer for you. Thanks

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Posted by wildbill on 05-26-2005 01:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by coon dawg
Lawyer is my hounds Grand sire on his sire's side..........just tryin to get some info on the dog's in his pedigree...........

you like the house blood too,lol.

check out my webpage, ped. for ch.saylors cruzen hawkI(joe)
MAGGIE AND JOE

i like the cross well enough that i crossed joe with maggie (full sister,younger litter) i have 1 male and 1 female from this cross and just let go of a female that was so loud that she would drown out the other dogs here at feeding time..
THE FEMALE ON TOP OF BOX

samatha (joe/maggie's mother) was a granddaughter to lawyer on top and granddaughter to cruze on bottom..her mother was a sister to house's cobra and her father was conger's lawtoo dog...

i have a male named TROUBLE ,i might cross back to the inbred female that is out of joe and a granddaughter to hopikins cash her 3rd gen. was double lipper on top and striker on bottom..

also have the hawk II male out of joe x luckylady (her father was full brother to sackett jr mother,with bozo on bottom)

LOOK AT THE PEDIGREES AND SEE IF YOU CAN SEE WHAT I'M DOING,LOL.

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Posted by John Vaught on 05-26-2005 01:55 AM:

GOOD LOOKING HOUNDS

Wildbill.............. That Lipper blood is great stuff just look what it has done for Sackett Jr. and so many other walkers............

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Posted by wildbill on 05-26-2005 02:11 AM:

joe's daddy's ,mother was out of cruse x daughter of clint x lippers mothers sister...on bottom
and he was finley rivers best on top,f.r.chief/f.r.joe/f.r.banjo and double buffalo river queen..

i guess i'm one of those that builds paper tigers,,lol..

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Posted by wildbill on 05-26-2005 02:30 AM:

i may build paper tigers but it works,,lol

i bought samatha as a pup before she was born when i saw the pedigree,,,
she ran her first coon at 4 months and treed it in some grapevines when the older dogs were jacking a track in the creek.i took samatha along to just get her used to the woods ,never thinking she would run and tree,,

joe was running his own track at 6mths and the next cross was maggie's litter,
some made it some didn't ..
the man that bought maggie told me she was running at 8 months old ,i got the chance to buy her back when she was almost 2 and i did..lol
here's the picture of the inbred male,,doesn't have 2 heads ,lol

and here's the picture of hawk II out of joe x lady luck..

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Posted by HOBO on 05-26-2005 02:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by John McClanahan
I owned Lawyer from a pup till I sold him to Tom Hopkins at 2 years old. I have some pictures of him, but can't figure out how to post them. He was solid blanketback with a dark red head, also had a black band across it like Lipper. Tall, leggy dog. between 65 and 70 lbs. Loudest dog ever born when he got treed. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone who hunted with him. Been looking for one that sounded like him for over 20 years, no luck so far. Had some littermates to him, but they wern't as loud as Lawyer. Joe House said once that if Lawyer had of lived a long life, that he would probably go down as the best stud that he had ever owned.

John if you have any pictures of him on your computer e-mail me a couple and I'll post them for you.

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Posted by wildbill on 05-26-2005 02:41 AM:

i'd like to see lawyers picture ,i seen cruzes picture in the magizines back years ago,he was an almost all white dog ..
here is joes ped for those that want to see it

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Posted by coon dawg on 05-26-2005 12:26 PM:

thanks again, ya'all...........

my hound looks alot like your old male, Wildbill............big, strong dog...........he's a grand nite......Jeff Duvall used to own him............he is everything Jeff/Paul said he was........

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Posted by John Carroll on 05-26-2005 02:27 PM:

Who raises the kind of House bred dogs I used to hunt with? Big, stout hounds with classic bawl mouths and god noses?

Man, I liked some of those dogs. My cousin had a dog out of House's lawyer that could mortally fly on a coon track. He had a beautiful long, clear bawl mouth. Sounded like a freight train running a coon.

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Posted by coon dawg on 05-26-2005 02:46 PM:

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lol.............mine sounds more like a real loud, deep foghorn.......huge head, weighs about 85 pounds...........drifts a bad, old track extremely well.....

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Posted by TW Knox on 05-26-2005 04:37 PM:

House bred ?

Does anyone know of any heavy House bred pups for sale or of any heavy House bred females that someone could lease and raise some pups from? Thanks 765-945-7288

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Posted by coon dawg on 05-26-2005 05:47 PM:

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I'll have some in about 3 months, out of my grand night and a night champion female.......706-783-3248...........JOHN SEGINAK

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 05-26-2005 06:23 PM:

I have pictures of both hounds. Will try to post those as I get a chance.

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Posted by coon dawg on 05-26-2005 06:46 PM:

thanks, Oak Ridge.....

/................got a picture of Macks Little Joe, by any chance.......??

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Posted by TW Knox on 05-27-2005 10:21 PM:

COON DAWG

What is your male dogs name ? Would it be Screaming Lawman ? If so, I bred to him once and have hunted with him several times. Thanks

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Posted by wildbill on 05-28-2005 04:12 AM:

Re: thanks, Oak Ridge.....

quote:
Originally posted by coon dawg
/................got a picture of Macks Little Joe, by any chance.......??

..........the top picture is macks little joe ....
i hunted with little joe and he was a coondog ,saw steve lead him off the tree and drop the lead strap and say come on jo and he followed us back to the truck dragging the lead..
.....the bottom picture is lawtoo ,out of lawyer....
i bred my casey female to him and keep a male pup ,the only one to live out of that cross ,never got the chance to bred back to lawtoo..my male was doing it all at a yr old ..

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Posted by Brett Gragg on 05-28-2005 04:33 AM:

John do you still have the cutter female and if so how is she doing

Posted by wildbill on 05-29-2005 04:26 PM:

Re: House bred ?

quote:
Originally posted by TW Knox
Does anyone know of any heavy House bred pups for sale or of any heavy House bred females that someone could lease and raise some pups from? Thanks 765-945-7288

is this the typeof bloodlines you're looking for??

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Posted by wildbill on 05-30-2005 04:37 AM:

i have 1 female out of hazel x hi-tech askum dog that has run track every time she has went to the woods and had a couple coon shot out to her and she will chew on them and would have done good in the SuperStakes if i had hunted her in them ...she was raised with some of the yard cats and she will let some of them sleep with her, but when a stray cat shows up it's a different story..she will try to kill it or a cage coon when it is near her she explodes,lol.

just what kind of cross were you thinking of?
i was thinking of breeding hazel later to some type of linebred outcross with finleyriver/carolinacasey in it...
what do you have that might cross with her blood..i'm thinking she is real tight house right now and some light outcross would be in order ,,
what you think???

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Posted by wildbill on 05-30-2005 06:10 PM:

what do you all think?
would hardwood swamp be too tight to cross back on hazel??
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