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Posted by John granberry on 04-29-2012 11:19 PM:

Good females are hard to come by

Stud dog men have a great thing going and I wish them all well! It just seems to me that a good female is just as important if not more at times! There is one man in our part of the world that his females are reproducers you can breed them to anything and the pups will tree they will all have the same mouth and their locate will even be the same. I have hunted his line of dogs for a long time. Back to what I was getting at these prooven females are an asset to stud dog owners if I was promoting a stud dog I would breed the good females just to get the good pups out there now I am not saying the unknown ones but the ones that are titled and have good pups on the ground.


Posted by belly up on 04-29-2012 11:37 PM:

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Posted by ONEDOGNIGHT on 04-30-2012 12:37 AM:

I am a female man myself and have the most accurate walker female I have ever walked to treed. She is what some may call their once in a lifetime hound. I would like to get pups her next cycle but am just lost at what to breed her to and just might not bred her because I want to do it right. I've never raised pups just always bought them ready to start.


Posted by John granberry on 04-30-2012 12:56 AM:

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Posted by croatankid on 04-30-2012 03:35 AM:

onedognight, if you've got such a fine female, you owe it to yourself and your dog to take your time, find the very best stud match for your dog and make some excellent puppies. i'm a female dog man myself but i've never owned a dog i thought was worth breeding. good luck!

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Posted by John granberry on 04-30-2012 03:55 AM:

Sometimes the advertised stud dogs are not the best for your dog and sometes they are. I personally bred my female to a young dog that was bred to be a reproducer


Posted by cripple creek on 04-30-2012 04:30 AM:

thats why for over 30 years I have

kept females and bred them to the right stud that lined up with the qualities I had in my females. thats why generation 10 is laying in my pen tonight to carry on the tradition of hard hunting, loud, smart, dual purpose beautifully built females that I have contintued to hunt and show for this entire period.

I never ever let a magazine or internet ad influence my breeding choice. I use it as a tool to help find something I already had in mind. a title or amount of money won has never even been a thought to me when looking for a stud to breed to. I checked out what he was reproducing on a consistent basis.
they had to throw the following:
smart
loud,
easy trainable
gamey/toughness
powerful track and tree dogs
confirmation/beauty

If he did not throw that on a regular basis by different lines of females, I scratched him off my list period.
make phone calles of folks who have raised pups off of him and ask them how early did they start, how smart were they, then check out for any flaws....silent on track, illness, inaccurate, etc.....

I also like to line breed on a particular dog that has proven he can reproduce or line up with a male that may go back to my females lineage.

I would highly recommend Repete or lock box whichever is closer to you. they have proven to be producers of these type of dogs that I like to hunt and train.

Greg since your female is directly off of Jake, you could look at a rock river cord male or something in that vein. double grandpups of sackett jr appear all over the place and seem to reproduce their own.
what is the bottom side of her breeding? that would make a difference also.

Ive made I know at least 20 crosses over the years many were experimental and I gave the pups away to see how certain crosses worked. family breeding like mr whimp has done over the years. that way when I found something that clicked, I could stick with it.
I study both sides of the pedigrees, but the females are the building blocks. I have only seen one stud over the years that produced more triats than my females and that was spring creek radar. all the others, my females dominated the crosses in all traits.

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Posted by John granberry on 04-30-2012 05:53 AM:

I agree with you 100'/. What I was getting to was there is to much emphasis placed on the stud dog if the female is not a reproducer then chances are the pups will not be any good! Line breeding is a good idea if you like what you already have. The worst thing is that bad traits in any line seem to be more dominant than the good ones so boys be careful with your females make sure the stud you breed to was not a fluke what was he out of what did his litter mates do ?


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