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Posted by buckshot britt on 04-27-2012 06:40 PM:

silent on track?

do all dogs open on track?


Posted by goodtimekennel on 04-27-2012 07:25 PM:

Re: silent on track?

quote:
Originally posted by buckshot britt
do all dogs open on track?



NO

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Posted by Bluedog65775 on 04-27-2012 08:08 PM:

Re: silent on track?

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Originally posted by buckshot britt
do all dogs open on track?


Had a blue gyp a few years back that was tight on track as a pup.By the time she was around 2 1/2 she was silent on track.Sure could tree alot of coon with her.But, I like to listen to a race so I sold her.

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Posted by Lakeland Kennel on 04-27-2012 08:17 PM:

If a person would do some serious investigation, I would bet that there could be a number of Nite Champions and Grand Nite Champions that are stone silent ever though the rules and breed standards call for an open mouth dogs.

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Posted by SoShadow on 04-27-2012 08:23 PM:

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If a person would do some serious investigation, I would bet that there could be a number of Nite Champions and Grand Nite Champions that are stone silent ever though the rules and breed standards call for an open mouth dogs.


i'd bet that there are a whole lot more that never shut-up!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 04-27-2012 08:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SoShadow
i'd bet that there are a whole lot more that never shut-up!
Yeah but that's not a fault. Silent is. I've saw grntch stud dogs. That are stone silent. Were when I drew em anyhow.

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Posted by Bluedog65775 on 04-27-2012 08:57 PM:

quote:
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i'd bet that there are a whole lot more that never shut-up!


Gotta love em.Get 1st strike every dump whether there is a coon within a 1/4 mile or not.And the 8 will never catch em.lol

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Posted by amazingcursouth on 04-27-2012 09:00 PM:

they need to put some of the bench dogs in the hunts and see if they meet standards of being open trailers lol. I hunt treeing curs so i prefer a tight mouth dog.

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Posted by Barry Franklin on 04-27-2012 09:17 PM:

Silent

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SoShadow
i'd bet that there are a whole lot more that never shut-up! [/QUOTEWhy have Breed Standards in the first place ? Just throw em' out and reg. anything you want too!! Theres a lot of manipulating the rules any way]


Posted by buckshot britt on 04-27-2012 10:51 PM:

so my dog has to open on track for a standard?


Posted by headless01 on 04-28-2012 07:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Yeah but that's not a fault. Silent is. I've saw grntch stud dogs. That are stone silent. Were when I drew em anyhow.


who says thats not a fault, lots of real coon hunters will beg to differ that opinion. i love a true trackdog,but despise a slick babble'n idiot, most of these bark'n idiots can't do that rite if there's not another dog for them to bark behind that fines the coon. it amazes me they punish dog that trees the coon and reward ole barky.


Posted by Night Shift on 04-28-2012 01:24 PM:

I own a gnt silent dog might open once on a cold track but thats no more of a fault then a dog that don't shut up-to me


Posted by GA DAWG on 04-28-2012 05:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by headless01
who says thats not a fault, lots of real coon hunters will beg to differ that opinion. i love a true trackdog,but despise a slick babble'n idiot, most of these bark'n idiots can't do that rite if there's not another dog for them to bark behind that fines the coon. it amazes me they punish dog that trees the coon and reward ole barky.
Ukc says it apparently. Since they say silent dogs are scratched. Then they don't have a rule about barking a lot. I don't like a barker myself but that's ukc's standard I recken.

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Posted by buckshot britt on 04-28-2012 06:13 PM:

so if i want to enter my pup in a hunt shes ganna have to open up or shes ganna get scratched?


Posted by GA DAWG on 04-28-2012 06:28 PM:

If it continues all night she supposed to but ain't gonna happen more than likely!

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Posted by mleck on 04-28-2012 06:34 PM:

Any dog that locates with a long drawn out bawl could be opening on track before treeing. I hunt a female that is very tight on the ground and when she throughs that bawl alot of time her first bark if you are close you better not tree her because she will move sometimes up to 100yards. If you are a half mile away you can tree her on it because she is going to be treed close. Does this constitude opening on the ground? and if you answer no than if we are standing close and I stike and tree her on that bark and she moves 100 yards are you going to minus me for moving 100 yards? Sure you are because she is opening on a track or coon scent anyways.

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Posted by buckshot britt on 04-28-2012 07:34 PM:

how many dogs are in each cast?


Posted by John granberry on 04-28-2012 08:14 PM:

How is it that a dog that runs dogs is not a fault when a tight mouth dog that opens on nothing but a coon can be scratched for it. I know it's hard to win with a tight dog but I would much rather have one than a barking idiot. A good honest strike dog will take last strike more times than not these days!


Posted by V. Cannon on 04-28-2012 08:14 PM:

Mleck, if your dog only opens locating and treeing she is silent on track, she should be scratched for being silent.


Posted by buckshot britt on 04-29-2012 12:14 AM:

To me it don't make sense. If a dog don't open but is running the coon that dog gets scratched but if the other dogs follow that dog and open up they don't. All they are doing is treeing with the silent dog


Posted by Kody on 04-29-2012 01:44 AM:

silent dog!

Real easy strike em tree em! Lol prove he didn have all four on the ground when he started locating! Lol! Love it

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Posted by buckshot britt on 04-29-2012 03:49 AM:

Is that what you do? How do YOU do that???


Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 04-29-2012 04:02 AM:

1) I WOULD HARDLY CONSIDER 100 YARDS TO BE A LOCATE!!!
2) I'M PRETTY SURE THE NUMBER OF FEET A DOG HAS ON THE GROUND HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NO THEY ARE TREED!!!


Posted by Barry Franklin on 04-29-2012 04:07 AM:

Silent

Odds are anyone knows whether or not a dog is silent on a track before they ever go to a hunt. When you know that a dog is silent on track sooner or later some one is going to question it. Rules are the rules, the whole problem can be solved by looking up in the top right corner of the score card, HONOR RULES, thats what I'm refering to. I know a lot just plainly don't care, because this is the mentality this day and time; It ain't cheating unless I get caught Not everyone even considers being honest these days. Are you one of them? UKC rule book explains it all


Posted by Kody on 04-29-2012 04:28 AM:

ok guys

Dont get all bent outta shape i personally have only hunted on dog that was semi silent he would give ya a few before he located but he was a truely one bark tree dog and prob best "coon dog" i have seen to date i was just tryin to be funny u guys get all worked up about things that are really no big deal if ya got a good strike dog just go beat em. O ya he wans't silent if he was runnin somethin fast!

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