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Posted by Randy Howard on 04-20-2012 04:03 AM:

7mo. old coon shy?

Have 7 mo. old male running and treeing. Got female same litter coon shy? Am i expecting to much out of her? Since her brother is out standing pup?

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Posted by RED REBELS on 04-20-2012 04:05 AM:

every pup is different, let her go at her own pace. and just cuz she wont bark at a caged coon doesnt mean she wont run and tree, my dual ch walker female wouldnt bark at a caged coon till she was almost 5 years old, still doesnt have a whole lot of interest in them but she is a COONDOG anyways

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Posted by Randy Howard on 04-20-2012 04:10 AM:

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Originally posted by RED REBELS
every pup is different, let her go at her own pace. and just cuz she wont bark at a caged coon doesnt mean she wont run and tree, my dual ch walker female wouldnt bark at a caged coon till she was almost 5 years old, still doesnt have a whole lot of interest in them but she is a COONDOG anyways

She is more like a pup and her brother is running and treein and will go deep and shows sighns of independence already, he was treeing squirells at 4.50 mo. and 5mo. old but she is a looker very pretty hound. I guess my problem is I keep comparing her!

Posted by dbprofitt56 on 04-20-2012 07:19 PM:

Re: 7mo. old coon shy?

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Originally posted by Randy Howard
Have 7 mo. old male running and treeing. Got female same litter coon shy? Am i expecting to much out of her? Since her brother is out standing pup?

Be PATIENT, whatever you do, don`t compare her to her brother! Let her go at her own pace, you already know the blood is there.

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Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 04-20-2012 07:50 PM:

I'd sell her and put all my eggs in that male pup. Unless you can hunt all the time hunting two pups the same age is very hard and you have one that is working with you and one that isn't. There are tons of stories out there about pups that start later and become amazing and thats wonderful, but just not for me.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 04-20-2012 07:58 PM:

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Originally posted by Ron Ashbaugh
I'd sell her and put all my eggs in that male pup. Unless you can hunt all the time hunting two pups the same age is very hard and you have one that is working with you and one that isn't. There are tons of stories out there about pups that start later and become amazing and thats wonderful, but just not for me.

You think a 7 month old should be tearing into a caged coon? Yeesh hard to impress aren't ya. lol

Caged and turned loose coon are the devil.

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Posted by BPrice on 04-20-2012 08:14 PM:

Dont let it bothern you pal. I dont start to push a dog untill they're 10-12 months. I've seen a lot of females start later but tend to finish faster. If you're set on keeping both I would just focus on the male for the next month or two and let her start at her pace. This is nothing more or less than my opinion.
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Posted by Randy Howard on 04-20-2012 09:08 PM:

Re: Re: 7mo. old coon shy?

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Originally posted by dbprofitt56
Be PATIENT, whatever you do, don`t compare her to her brother! Let her go at her own pace, you already know the blood is there.

The blood is there 3 out of 6 out of this liter are all ready starting, I've been spending time with her leash and loading and riding in the truck,been letting her run loose when i can, have cats in the yard, she shows a little interest in chasing but i don't encourage it,but don't mind if she does at this point. Thanks for input.

Posted by Randy Howard on 04-20-2012 09:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
You think a 7 month old should be tearing into a caged coon? Yeesh hard to impress aren't ya. lol

Caged and turned loose coon are the devil.

Caged and turned loose coons are the devil? I feel it's a good way to get them started. I normaly turn the coon loose at night and wait awhile before cutting loose figured it would be closer to a real hunt for a pup but more controlled? Any opinions on it? Thanks all for the input

Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 04-20-2012 09:19 PM:

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
You think a 7 month old should be tearing into a caged coon? Yeesh hard to impress aren't ya. lol

Caged and turned loose coon are the devil.

Agreed with the 2nd part to a point and each dog I raised from a pup that amounted to anything didn't have to wait until 7 months to want to tear into a caged coon. Everyone I had that didn't never stayed long enough for me to find out.

the ones that wouldn't get after it I sold to some guy named Trevor for $150 and he made them into Grand Nights.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 04-20-2012 09:31 PM:

Re: 7mo. old coon shy?

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Originally posted by Randy Howard
Have 7 mo. old male running and treeing. Got female same litter coon shy? Am i expecting to much out of her? Since her brother is out standing pup?

what do you mean coon shy?

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Posted by Randy Howard on 04-20-2012 09:42 PM:

Re: Re: 7mo. old coon shy?

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Originally posted by Lee Currens Jr.
what do you mean coon shy?

She is afraid to get to close to one,she shows very little to no interest in a coon.

Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 04-20-2012 09:46 PM:

ok pet coons most i tree are atleast 20 feet in the air

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Posted by Geminite on 04-20-2012 09:47 PM:

Let her grow up a little. Just keep working on leading, loading, the whole deal. She is probably just maturing at a slower rate than her littermates, but that dosn't mean that she can't finish out into a nice hound. We have a Grand nite female that could care less about coons in cages, but will tree coons all night long.

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Posted by Randy Howard on 04-20-2012 09:49 PM:

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Originally posted by Lee Currens Jr.
ok pet coons most i tree are atleast 20 feet in the air

GOOD DEAL!

Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 04-20-2012 09:55 PM:

i have never had a female start as quick as my males

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 04-20-2012 11:34 PM:

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Originally posted by Ron Ashbaugh
Agreed with the 2nd part to a point and each dog I raised from a pup that amounted to anything didn't have to wait until 7 months to want to tear into a caged coon. Everyone I had that didn't never stayed long enough for me to find out.

the ones that wouldn't get after it I sold to some guy named Trevor for $150 and he made them into Grand Nights.

Lol what can I say? I have been lucky. One things forsure tho, I had 350 dollars in 3 dogs, 2 I Granded and 1 was a nite ch with 4 wins and was killed. But i hunted the hair off these dogs ALONE.

But back to topic, I have never believed in caged or turned loose coon but im far from an expert when it comes to starting young dogs. As soon as a young hound shows any intrest in running and treeing, patience should be number 1. Keep hunting that young hound and if it is in it it doesnt need caged coon or turned coon to bring it out. This is however just my oppinion. Yall have a nice weekend now.

Posted by old ben on 04-21-2012 04:55 PM:

imo that is why we have so many slick idiots..push em to tree.pup still squating to pee lol

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Posted by ONEDOGNIGHT on 04-21-2012 05:18 PM:

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Lol what can I say? I have been lucky. One things forsure tho, I had 350 dollars in 3 dogs, 2 I Granded and 1 was a nite ch with 4 wins and was killed. But i hunted the hair off these dogs ALONE.

But back to topic, I have never believed in caged or turned loose coon but im far from an expert when it comes to starting young dogs. As soon as a young hound shows any intrest in running and treeing, patience should be number 1. Keep hunting that young hound and if it is in it it doesnt need caged coon or turned coon to bring it out. This is however just my oppinion. Yall have a nice weekend now.

We can agree on something.

Posted by Randy Howard on 04-21-2012 05:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by old ben
imo that is why we have so many slick idiots..push em to tree.pup still squating to pee lol

imo alot of slick treein idiots are a lack of nose and ability to work a bad or cold track? u think

Posted by GA DAWG on 04-21-2012 05:27 PM:

Mine all see at least one caged coon. Nothing un common about a 7 month old being afraid of one. Wait a couple more months and show her another. I bet it will be different.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 04-21-2012 05:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by old ben
imo that is why we have so many slick idiots..push em to tree.pup still squating to pee lol

the lost art of dogs going and finding what people catch and feed

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Posted by Mike Hill on 04-21-2012 06:23 PM:

Hard to train 2 pups

I jsut gave away a nice young 11 month old pup that was doing fairly well.But his brother really stand out its hard to work and hunt alot for me and the one that stands out is going to get most of teh hunting.Just my opion.Plus its nice jsut having 2 dogs in the kennel
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Posted by Randy Howard on 04-21-2012 06:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Mine all see at least one caged coon. Nothing un common about a 7 month old being afraid of one. Wait a couple more months and show her another. I bet it will be different.

Ya thanks for all of input. Not overly worried yet know she still has time, couple months will tell alot. just lookin for some feed back on topic. Everyone has different views on the caged coons though, I feel if not done alot can't hurt, just like to introduce them to what i want them to run, sure hasn't hurt my male pup, he can flat run one and trees it by himself, but have limited it to turned loose coons don't let him see it at all just go dump it out wait and turn him loose let him find it on his own pet him up and praise then take back to the house and leave him up with something to think about and next time you take him out, he hits the ground running. He's at the point now just huntin is all he needs ready for the kits to hit the ground can't wait to see how he does on them, Bet he trees one by himself soon. thanks again all..

Posted by Randy Howard on 04-21-2012 06:32 PM:

Re: Hard to train 2 pups

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Hill
I jsut gave away a nice young 11 month old pup that was doing fairly well.But his brother really stand out its hard to work and hunt alot for me and the one that stands out is going to get most of teh hunting.Just my opion.Plus its nice jsut having 2 dogs in the kennel
Happy Hunting

I understand the work and hunt thing. was going to go to a hunt last night but got called out to work at 5 and got home at close to 10 work sure puts a damper on the huntin, but work first right

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