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Posted by Prowler420 on 04-16-2012 12:43 AM:

water bleach mixture for parvo

Has anyone ever heard of giving a puppy or dog a mixture of water and bleach for parvo? If so what is the mixture rate?


Posted by Tyler Hatcher on 04-16-2012 04:18 PM:

i have heard that and also bleach and gatorade not sure if it works the old timers around here say it will sometimes not sure what the mixture is though... the gatorade they said works better it gives the pup much needed energy


Posted by robert whitten on 04-16-2012 04:37 PM:

parvo

i've heard it and refuse to listen to ignorant crap !!! clorine is piosonus period and in an allready debilitated animal absolutely no good . best thing you can do for parvo is antibiotics and hydration . you can keep the animal hydrated by injecting fluids under the loose skin around the neck up high close to the shoulders . i use a product called resorb for scouring calfs mix it and inject under skin it has glucose and eloctrolites in it . i am no vet and do not claim to be . have to put that in there . but dehydration and secondary infection is how parvo kills keep antibiotics and fluid in them and some will pull through . parvo is a intestinal issue and bleach would just aggrevate the situation even more . good luck . mr. whitten


Posted by SMH on 04-16-2012 04:39 PM:

3ccs of Gatorade 1st of clorox 3 times a day make them take as much Gatorade as you can between doses

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 04-16-2012 05:01 PM:

Re: water bleach mixture for parvo

quote:
Originally posted by Prowler420
Has anyone ever heard of giving a puppy or dog a mixture of water and bleach for parvo? If so what is the mixture rate?



Do you Have Pups with it Now ????

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Posted by grwaskom on 04-16-2012 06:25 PM:

copied from another post

what I ended up using is 3/4 cc bleach and 1/2 cc distilled water. It works if not too far along. the complain is that the bleach is hard on the stomach and intestance..... well the parvo is eating the pups inside up..so it was worth the risk. I had nine come down with it, I gave all of them, even the ones who looked like they werent effected by it that much. I lost two. so not too bad from my point of veiw.
I was able to keep the fever down. and stopped the bowl movements with pig stopper , gave them honey and yogurt for their insides. and the bleach. I gave them pepto 2 hours before the bleach.
I asked the vet about long term problems. parvo does not effect genetics, it has on rare occasions effects the heart of kidneys. Might on some breeds keep them loose in the bowels for a while. but with the help of all the advice I was given. I believe there will be no reprocussions from this for me. they are looking a whole lot better and solid stools again. I also forgot to say, I had fresh goat milk i got them to drink also, that i believe protected their insides some. I was able to keep fever down with water under the hide and some willow tea.

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Posted by Prowler420 on 04-16-2012 07:06 PM:

Yes two of my pups have it one is 5months old and the other 3 months old. The 5 month old was left at the vet last Thursday and has pulled through coming home tomorrow and the 3 month old was just dropped off this morning for iv's and antibiotics. It's just expensive at $450.00 each to start the treatment!!!!!!


Posted by Majestic Tree H on 04-16-2012 07:24 PM:

Here is a Link to Parvo Treatment And where you can Get Supplies .. IV sets, Juice ect. http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...highlight=Parvo

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Posted by l.lyle on 04-16-2012 07:54 PM:

I heard about it seven years ago. My pup was prescrided antibiotics and seasick pills to keep it down.The vet said if he lived through the next day he would stand a fifty percent chanc. He even threw up the seasick pills. I called a buddy told me to try 5cc Clorox to 95cc water. I gave him 10 cc every hour.I told him to come get his clorox so often he started responding to it so I named him Clorox.The odds were so bad it was worth a try in my opinion. Clorox is 7 and going strong.
I told a buddy who told his grandaddy who forgot to proportion so he gave it 50/50. Said his pups got over it in one day..


Posted by on 04-16-2012 07:54 PM:

my redbone got it a few months ago when he was about 3 months old. the vet prescribed me TAMAFLU which is a people medicine . It was about a hundred bucks but it dang sure worked


Posted by JORDAN LINGLE on 04-16-2012 08:07 PM:

WHAT I'VE DONE

You'll need:
3 bags of IV fluids; give 1/4 bags of fluids every 6 hrs.
Maalox Max (anti-nausea/vomiting); 20mL 2-3 times a day if they can't keep that down the vet can give him a shot for vomiting. Just ask your vet for a shot of Cerenia.
Imodium (anti-diarrheal); 10mL 2 times a day
Gatorade; 20mL every 2 hours
Pedialyte; 20mL every 2 hours
Bleach; 3/4 cup bleach to 1 gallon water to kill parvovirus. If disinfecting an area must have a contact time of at least 10 min. before washing off. I have given it to a pup before; I mixed it at the ratio given above and gave in the amount of 2 cc per 10lbs. of body weight once a day. I'm not suggesting that anyone should try this; I'm just merely stating the fact that I have used it before and the dog recovered very well. Weather it helped or not I don't know but I can tell you that doing this and this alone will not save the dog. JMO.
Purina FortiFlora (1 box, 30 in a box); Use 1 pack to 1/2 a can of dog food twice a day, after vomiting has subsided.

Cost:
IV's - $8 per bag from your vet
Maalox Max - $8 from Wal-Mart OR Cerenia - $15 from your vet
Imodium -$4 from Wal-Mart
Gatorade - $3 from Wal-Mart
Pedialyte - $6 from Wal-Mart
Bleach - $2 from Wal-Mart
Purina FortiFlora - $20 from vet or online

Notes:
Keeping the animal hydrated is the most important factor, any changes in treatment should be adjusted and compensated for any missed doses or changes. Give the IV fluids under the lose skin on the top of the back or neck. Do not offer any food until vomiting has completely subsided; then slowly refeed using high quality canned dog food. Do not use solid foods; they are harder to digest and will upset the stomach. Add the contents of 1 pack of Purina FortiFlora to 1/2 a can of dog food per feeding. The FortiFlora will aid in recovery of the immune system and digestive tract. It contains live active cultures to help balance their digestive system as well as adding many much needed vitamins and minerals to help boost their recovery, energy levels and immune system. FortiFlora also acts like a natural anti-biotic and is an overall great product that I highly recommend.

Just stay diligent; taking an active approach towards the treatment of the parvovirus will greatly improve you and your companion's odds for beating the virus. Hope this will help good luck.

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Posted by Randy Howard on 04-16-2012 08:17 PM:

Re: parvo

quote:
Originally posted by robert whitten
i've heard it and refuse to listen to ignorant crap !!! clorine is piosonus period and in an allready debilitated animal absolutely no good . best thing you can do for parvo is antibiotics and hydration . you can keep the animal hydrated by injecting fluids under the loose skin around the neck up high close to the shoulders . i use a product called resorb for scouring calfs mix it and inject under skin it has glucose and eloctrolites in it . i am no vet and do not claim to be . have to put that in there . but dehydration and secondary infection is how parvo kills keep antibiotics and fluid in them and some will pull through . parvo is a intestinal issue and bleach would just aggrevate the situation even more . good luck . mr. whitten
I have to agree with you Mr.Whitten. It might be good to use bleach in the pen area? I don't think I'de poison my dog with a bunch of bleach,Call a vet!

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Posted by l.lyle on 04-16-2012 08:35 PM:

Let's see! Table salt will kill anybody. You let you kids swim I chlorinated water.


Posted by RHK on 04-16-2012 08:48 PM:

i bought a dog from a horse show years ago. when i brought the dog home it ended up having parvo. it bit the dust. year later i got a bluetick pup. it bit the dust. its been about 5 years sice the last death but im picking up a pup in 2 weeks and im scared it will get sick also. i have $450 in this pup off the tit so id rather it didnt happen again. my dogs arent on concrete and i cant bleach my whole yard. do i still need to be concerned or should the 7 ways be enough to prevent? the bluetick had one 7 way and it still croaked.


Posted by Majestic Tree H on 04-16-2012 09:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by RHK
i bought a dog from a horse show years ago. when i brought the dog home it ended up having parvo. it bit the dust. year later i got a bluetick pup. it bit the dust. its been about 5 years sice the last death but im picking up a pup in 2 weeks and im scared it will get sick also. i have $450 in this pup off the tit so id rather it didnt happen again. my dogs arent on concrete and i cant bleach my whole yard. do i still need to be concerned or should the 7 ways be enough to prevent? the bluetick had one 7 way and it still croaked.


You'l Be Way ahead and More Protected if you Give Single Vaccinations .. More and More Studies are showing up on the Cons of Mpl. Vaccine Injections .

Start With Stright Parvo Right Off .. 2 weeks later Give a Single Distemper and Back to the Single Parvo Shot ... The Other 5 Vaccines in a 7 Way Just Rocks the Young Imune System Tomuch Plus most of the Other 5 Dieses are Probably Non Exsistant in your area anyway ..

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Posted by curtis hansley on 04-16-2012 09:25 PM:

CLOROX

I been putting clorox in my hounds water for years one cap full per buckett never hert thim never had one die it keeps bucketts from turning green and fights off coxsiliosis witch is similar to parvo but diffrent so as long as you dont use to much clorox in water dog will be fine been doing this for years havent had one dog die,maybe of old age thats about it.LOL.


Posted by JORDAN LINGLE on 04-16-2012 09:51 PM:

Have a titer test done.

quote:
Originally posted by RHK
i bought a dog from a horse show years ago. when i brought the dog home it ended up having parvo. it bit the dust. year later i got a bluetick pup. it bit the dust. its been about 5 years sice the last death but im picking up a pup in 2 weeks and im scared it will get sick also. i have $450 in this pup off the tit so id rather it didnt happen again. my dogs arent on concrete and i cant bleach my whole yard. do i still need to be concerned or should the 7 ways be enough to prevent? the bluetick had one 7 way and it still croaked.


Have a titer done on the dog. A titer is a blood test that will determines the dog’s immunity level to certain diseases and viruses such as the parvovirus. Have this done before you ever bring the dog home if its titer is low you'll need to revaccinate the dog. If that is the case I would have a vet vaccinate the pup for you and preferably using a different brand of vaccine. You would also have to have another test done to determine whether the second vaccine was effective or not. If the dog’s titer comes back high then it is immune to that disease and it’s safe to bring the dog home without any further action. Test usually cost around $40-$100 and generally has to be sent off for testing with results in about a week. A vet that can run the test in their office will be slightly cheaper and they can have the results in less than 15 minutes.

A titer is you’re best option here otherwise you are just taking a chance. Having a titer test done is not only an effective way to determine whether or not your pup possess a safe level of immunity to disease it's also a much safer alternative to annual vaccinations, which can have dangerous side effects and cause a variety of other long term illnesses.

Here is a little piece from Jean Dodds, DVM, about the long-term harmful effects and dangers of annual vaccination.

Why more is not better

Jean Dodds, DVM, a highly respected veterinary hematologist, and founder and president of the nonprofit Hemopet, a California-based animal blood bank, pioneered the vaccine debate decades ago and is now considered one of the leading authorities on canine vaccine protocols. According to Dr. Dodds, many recent studies confirm that the vast majority of dogs, in most cases at least 95 percent of the subjects, retain immunity after vaccination for many years after the administration of a vaccine. She states that the “evidence implicating vaccines in triggering immune-mediated and other chronic disorders (vaccinosis) is compelling.” Adverse reactions to conventional vaccines can be the same as reactions to any chemicals, drugs, or infectious agents. Immediate (or anaphylactic) reactions can occur in the 24-48 hours following exposure to the vaccine. Delayed reactions can occur 10-45 days after receiving vaccines. Symptoms include fever, stiffness, sore joints, abdominal tenderness, nervous system disorders, susceptibility to infections, and hemorrhages or bruising. Transient seizures can appear in puppies and adults. More long-term harmful effects can result in permanent damage to the dog’s immune system, which increases the dog’s susceptibility to chronic, debilitating diseases affecting the blood, endocrine organs, joints, skin, central nervous system, liver, kidneys, and bowel. In addition, vaccines can overwhelm a chronically ill dog, or a dog that has a genetic predisposition to react adversely to viral exposure, even from the modified live viral agents or killed virus in vaccines. So, given the possible health risks of administering too many vaccines, especially when a dog likely retains the immunologic protection supplied by previous vaccinations, how can a responsible dog owner decide on a safe and effective vaccine schedule for the life of their dog? As we suggested earlier, the answer is titer tests.

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Posted by JORDAN LINGLE on 04-16-2012 09:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
You'l Be Way ahead and More Protected if you Give Single Vaccinations .. More and More Studies are showing up on the Cons of Mpl. Vaccine Injections .

Start With Stright Parvo Right Off .. 2 weeks later Give a Single Distemper and Back to the Single Parvo Shot ... The Other 5 Vaccines in a 7 Way Just Rocks the Young Imune System Tomuch Plus most of the Other 5 Dieses are Probably Non Exsistant in your area anyway ..



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Posted by patches9452 on 04-16-2012 10:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by RHK
i bought a dog from a horse show years ago. when i brought the dog home it ended up having parvo. it bit the dust. year later i got a bluetick pup. it bit the dust. its been about 5 years sice the last death but im picking up a pup in 2 weeks and im scared it will get sick also. i have $450 in this pup off the tit so id rather it didnt happen again. my dogs arent on concrete and i cant bleach my whole yard. do i still need to be concerned or should the 7 ways be enough to prevent? the bluetick had one 7 way and it still croaked.
give the pup some albond before transporting and make sure hes had his shots and thats about all you can do..... you can spend tons of money on preventitives and it die from something else


Posted by redneck59 on 04-16-2012 11:10 PM:

had 2 die from it $600 vet bill had 3 sets of 7ways in them. had another 1 get it 3 sets of 5ways 10cc of straight bleach 2 days in a row and water every chance i got. squrit it straight down there throat. dog is still alive


Posted by Prowler420 on 04-16-2012 11:35 PM:

They say it can lay dormant in the dirt for several years. The vet told me that there not immune to it until they have had 4 sets of shots and time for them to take effect. 6weeks, 9 weeks, 12 weeks, and 15 weeks. I think mine actually came from a wood pen given to me by a friend!!!!!


Posted by RHK on 04-16-2012 11:39 PM:

i cant believe they even sell the 7way anymore. sounds like a lot of guys had the same problem i did. they didnt work and dogs got sick. ill try the single vaccines this time. thanks for the info


Posted by l.lyle on 04-16-2012 11:45 PM:

Re: CLOROX

quote:
Originally posted by curtis hansley
I been putting clorox in my hounds water for years one cap full per buckett never hert thim never had one die it keeps bucketts from turning green and fights off coxsiliosis witch is similar to parvo but diffrent so as long as you dont use to much clorox in water dog will be fine been doing this for years havent had one dog die,maybe of old age thats about it.LOL.

Parvo and Coccidiosis are so similar to a layman like me I don't worry about which one it is. They get the Albion (good for Coccidia) plus the Clorox treatment.

Also I will start the IV fluids under the skin as that extra hydration would sure help.


Posted by Majestic Tree H on 04-16-2012 11:55 PM:

Remember One Thing a 1000 ML Bag of Ringers Cost a Vet about $1.85 - $2.00 . Don't Let them Charge you $20.00 or More for a Bag !

http://www.shopmedvet.com/category/...ringers+lactate

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Posted by doublehhounds on 04-17-2012 12:33 AM:

there is a disinfectant that you can get from Jeffers Vet Supply that kills parvo, along with a bunch of other illnesses, you mix it with water, its $30 a gallon, but makes a bunch,ive had good luck with it,


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