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Posted by Timmy Templeton on 03-29-2012 01:26 AM:

What do you consider a WELL STARTED dog?

I've been reading some classifieds on here and really haven't seen many that I consider well started.... Well Started to me, means they will go hunting, strike their own track and at least tree an easy coon on their own.....No right or wrong answers here...just want to know what others think.

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Posted by MikeR on 03-29-2012 01:35 AM:

My interpretation of well started mirrors yours.

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Posted by ONEDOGNIGHT on 03-29-2012 01:52 AM:

My thinking and yours is on the same page.

Posted by Autumn Clements on 03-29-2012 01:55 AM:

Well started to me means they can go hunting, strike, run and tree their own coon most of the time. If they can only tree a easy coon i'd classify that under lightly started.

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Posted by l.lyle on 03-29-2012 02:57 AM:

Hunt, strike, trail, run and tree, at least tree enough to get there. Also either naturally straight or have a good idea what not to do. Also loads by command or by pointing to the open door. Just me but i start mine with other dogs and they might be well well well started track dogs by the time they start treeing.
A well started dog should be doing it all himself and at that point just keep getting better at doing it.

Posted by Rocketman55 on 03-29-2012 03:30 AM:

Well started to me is a young dog that will go as deep as necessary (in company) strike, trail & tree with older dogs on most all trees. Additionally that dog should be able to tree an easy coon by it's self also.

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Posted by Timmy Templeton on 03-29-2012 03:49 AM:

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Originally posted by l.lyle
Hunt, strike, trail, run and tree, at least tree enough to get there. Also either naturally straight or have a good idea what not to do. Also loads by command or by pointing to the open door. Just me but i start mine with other dogs and they might be well well well started track dogs by the time they start treeing.
A well started dog should be doing it all himself and at that point just keep getting better at doing it.

Yes brains, handling and progress are a must.

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Posted by patches9452 on 03-29-2012 03:54 AM:

i have drawn dogs in hunts yall wouldnt consider well started... heck i have won hunts with dogs like yall are calling well started

Posted by Timmy Templeton on 03-29-2012 04:07 AM:

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Originally posted by patches9452
i have drawn dogs in hunts yall wouldnt consider well started... heck i have won hunts with dogs like yall are calling well started

This is very true.

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Posted by l.lyle on 03-29-2012 04:14 AM:

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Originally posted by Old Dominion
Yes brains, handling and progress are a must.

Yes a well started dog should be the kind that could be bought by a kid that would hunt, and not have , or expect to have, problems finishing him out.
Now, if the kid goes to beating on him for honoring another dog , that is a different story. That is NOT the dog I started.

Posted by OH English on 03-29-2012 01:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by patches9452
i have drawn dogs in hunts yall wouldnt consider well started... heck i have won hunts with dogs like yall are calling well started

Yeah, but ive also won hunts with dogs i would have shot, if they were mine.

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Posted by BB&LKennels on 03-29-2012 05:40 PM:

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Originally posted by OH English
Yeah, but ive also won hunts with dogs i would have shot, if they were mine.

DID THE DOG WIN ,OR DID THE HANDLER WIN ????

Posted by patches9452 on 03-29-2012 06:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BB&LKennels
DID THE DOG WIN ,OR DID THE HANDLER WIN ????

the dog won

Posted by patches9452 on 03-29-2012 06:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by l.lyle
Hunt, strike, trail, run and tree, at least tree enough to get there. Also either naturally straight or have a good idea what not to do. Also loads by command or by pointing to the open door. Just me but i start mine with other dogs and they might be well well well started track dogs by the time they start treeing.
A well started dog should be doing it all himself and at that point just keep getting better at doing it.

doesnt seem to me much difference in your well started dogs and most finished dogs

Posted by Joseph Closser on 03-29-2012 06:51 PM:

If it hasnt started treeing coon what exactly has it started???

Posted by Timmy Templeton on 03-29-2012 07:34 PM:

Exactly....you got it.

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Originally posted by Joseph Closser
If it hasnt started treeing coon what exactly has it started???

You see this a lot on here.....Well started male/female. (Various ages). ***** bred. Hates a caged coon. Barks on a hang up. Will go short distance with other dogs.

I just don't think that's well started.

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Posted by patches9452 on 03-29-2012 08:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Joseph Closser
If it hasnt started treeing coon what exactly has it started???

it can start hunting it can start tracking....all kinds of things before it is treeing its on coon before being called well started.... what do yall call a dog that will tree but isnt hunting but will go to another dog struck or one that will go hunting by itself strike and run to the tree and hit up a few barks but not sticking like it should... to me started is anything that will hunt[ it has started hunting] well started [is tracking and treeing to some extent]not on most tracks but on some tracks... when i get a dog that will track and tree on most tracks they are ready for the fine tuning and then the hunts

Posted by Joseph Closser on 03-30-2012 12:24 AM:

I got a 3 month old thats started.. She started barking at a toy coon the wife bought at walmart..

Posted by Joseph Closser on 03-30-2012 12:31 AM:

All kidding aside.. To me a started dog should hunt alone and be getting treed.. It dont mean treeing coon alnite everynite but it should be starting to tree coon..

Posted by GA DAWG on 03-30-2012 12:53 AM:

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Originally posted by patches9452
doesnt seem to me much difference in your well started dogs and most finished dogs

Don't sound like it does it. I really think most folks on here are expecting to much for a well started dog.

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Posted by Dwils on 03-30-2012 01:06 AM:

Started is a dog that is striking and getting Treed on its own most of the time. Barking at a coon doesn't mean its even lightly started Hell.....if they aren't finished , they are only started lol

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Posted by GA DAWG on 03-30-2012 01:15 AM:

I've seen lots of 5 yr old well started dogs I recken.

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Posted by elvis on 03-30-2012 01:18 AM:

Yalls started dogs are better than my old dogs.

Posted by old ben on 03-30-2012 01:32 AM:

key word was WELL,, to me thats 85 to 90 % doing it on its own i not sure what the nxt step would be maybe finished.i hear alot of people say there hound is well started untill ya drop with em lol

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Posted by l.lyle on 03-30-2012 01:46 AM:

Maybe I'm lucky but I haven't had one i'd called finished till they were at least three or four years old. I've had sone less than 2 that i could count on getting coons with but they kept getting better so they weren't topped out yet. JMO

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