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Posted by country dog on 03-15-2012 03:39 AM:

rule question

Three dog cast dog A struck first going to the left dog B and C strike going to the right B and C tree 5 min runing dog A quit's his track and backs B and C is dog A minised for quiting track or not.


Posted by ONEDOGNIGHT on 03-15-2012 03:48 AM:

Man this is a Monday question.


Posted by kayapellijed390 on 03-15-2012 03:57 AM:

NO.

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Posted by ONEDOGNIGHT on 03-15-2012 04:06 AM:

They have 5 minutes to go me too.


Posted by Rip on 03-15-2012 04:18 AM:

Re: rule question

quote:
Originally posted by country dog
Three dog cast dog A struck first going to the left dog B and C strike going to the right B and C tree 5 min runing dog A quit's his track and backs B and C is dog A minised for quiting track or not.


No, the dog can quit 15 tracks and as long as the time doesn't catch him or he don't come in he can not be minused his strike.

The rule is very clear, to be minused for quitting a track he has to quit the track AND COME IN. If both don't happen that rule can't be applied.

The other way is for the time to get him.

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 03-15-2012 04:18 PM:

Rip is correct... many people will try to get philisophical on whether a dog did or did not "quit" it's track, but the rule about quiting a trail is 4 (E) and Rip is correct, in that it also states that they must "come in".

Now... I have also seen people argue that when a dog comes in to a tree, they have "come in" but 4 (D) and 4 (G) address that situation.

I think one thing people forget, is that in the old days coon hunting was more of a social event. Folks didn't mind dogs "helping" one another or "backing" another on a tree. They just wanted to go out and tree some coon, they didn't want to walk all over god's creation going from one tree to another. And much of that remains today, in certain circles. It's us competition hunters that demand a dog be independent and do there own thing. In other words, backing a dog on a tree is a fault in a competition hunters point of you, not necessarily a coon hunters. I think this is why UKC allows 5 minutes to get on a tree after the first one, and you're only penalized for taking too long, not the aspect of covering in itself.

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Posted by TED HUGHES on 03-16-2012 02:02 AM:

strike minused

I've hunted on a few hunts that a dog had to get in the dog box and shut the tailgate to get minused.

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 03-16-2012 02:06 AM:

LOL... I've seen that too!


Posted by ONEDOGNIGHT on 03-16-2012 04:25 AM:

Re: strike minused

quote:
Originally posted by TED HUGHES
I've hunted on a few hunts that a dog had to get in the dog box and shut the tailgate to get minused.
? that aint ever happen


Posted by ronald schultz on 03-30-2012 06:41 PM:

if the dog shuts the box and tailgate.CIRCLE!!

cant disturb a place of refuge!!!


Posted by deschmidt27 on 03-30-2012 08:17 PM:

Re: strike minused

quote:
Originally posted by TED HUGHES
I've hunted on a few hunts that a dog had to get in the dog box and shut the tailgate to get minused.


I can't say that I've seen that, but I was in a cast several weeks ago, where a dog caught and killed a skunk and brought it back to the trucks, where the guide was waiting due to a bumb leg. When he got back there, he jumped into and placed the skunk in a redbone's box!

Now I call that "profiling"... and profiling is wrong according to Ron White!

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Posted by Huntinwalkers on 03-30-2012 10:59 PM:

LOVE THIS !!!! SO TRUE

quote:
Originally posted by ONEDOGNIGHT
They have 5 minutes to go me too.


i DONT mind a dog backing another on a coon, but i seen 3 dogs 30yds infront that where running track, shut up and run to another dog that treed a coon everybit 900 yds in the other direction, now thats me tooing, sad part was all 3 got treed in there and we beat one of them to the tree!! lol


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