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Posted by twilson78 on 03-13-2012 01:20 AM:

Treeing Walkers VS. English

Would like to hear SERIOUS opinions on each of the two. What you like best of each breed,and what you dont like so well. I like both and would also like to hear what breed you think really has the total package!

Posted by headless01 on 03-13-2012 01:58 AM:

TW vs ENG

LEAPORD CUR HOUNDS are best all around.

Posted by Giveem3outdoors on 03-13-2012 02:57 AM:

english vs tw

English, Ive hunted a few decent walkers but my experiance with them is they are just way to tree minded and like to pull up slick. I like the english they can drive a track and blow the top out of the tree. I dont like walking to empty trees. They call them walkers for a reason. lol just my opinion though im sure there will be 4000000000000 walker guys that wouldnt give a nickel for every english in the country.

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Posted by prostockpat on 03-13-2012 03:10 AM:

there

are good and bad in every breed!i'm not colored blind either!!
i've had them all myself.

but i will say this about english breed.i have seen alot more mean eng. males at the tree,than any breed.
there is a top english stud owner/comp. hunter on here.that won't keep or hunt the males off his hound for that reason.{he told me for that himself}.

Posted by J.R on 03-13-2012 03:17 AM:

givem3

thats funny i have a walker, i hunt with a friend that has english dogs, got to tell you that english slick trees way more than my walker. and she loves possums walk a **** mile to a possum, so ill stick with what i know is going to tree coons. and by the way they all will slick tree in every breed

Posted by Giveem3outdoors on 03-13-2012 03:28 AM:

Re: givem3

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Originally posted by J.R
thats funny i have a walker, i hunt with a friend that has english dogs, got to tell you that english slick trees way more than my walker. and she loves possums walk a **** mile to a possum, so ill stick with what i know is going to tree coons. and by the way they all will slick tree in every breed

i agree there are good and bad in all ive seen a few really good walkers even owned a couple decent ones. Would own another if i found one i liked. But in my personal experiance ive had better luck with english. To each is his own.

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Posted by Bluwalker on 03-13-2012 03:54 AM:

If I could not own Walkers i'd be taking a good look at the English dogs. I have hunted with a couple nice ones and that's kinda saying something cause there are barely any around here at all.

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Posted by James B Grice on 03-13-2012 04:06 AM:

I have seen some good english females that I would feed.If I were going to a pittbull dog fight I would carry an 80 pound red english.I wouldn,t own nothing but a blue, but I,v yet to own any.

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Posted by big boy cain on 03-13-2012 04:13 AM:

just go back to the early 80s till now what was the most ukc world champions walkers from what i read.

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Posted by big boy cain on 03-13-2012 04:27 AM:

from 1978 to 2011 there 1 black and tan 1 plot 2 english 1 blue dog and 28 walkers that made world champions what do you think is best? it ant because everyone owns walkers.

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Posted by smokin-1-mo on 03-13-2012 04:51 AM:

OPEN MINDED

I LOVE A GOOD WALKERBUT AFTER 37 YEARS OF HUNTING THEM I CHANGED BREEDS FOR ONE REASON...MY OPINION THERE IS A FEW DOGS PEOPLE JUST KEPT BREEDING TO UNTILL THE SLICK TREEING HAS TOOK OVER THE BREED (AGAIN MY OPINION)..I HAVE BEEN HUNTING ENGLISH DOGS FOR ABOUT 5,6 YRS THERE NOT PERFECT BUT I HAVE FOUND THEM TO HAVE THE COON WAY MORE OFTEN THEN NOT THEY COULD OPEN A LITTLE MORE THEN THEY DO AS A WHOLE BUT MEAN I HAVE NOT SEEN ...I HAVE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH THEM...I HAVE A WALKER FEMALE OUT OF SUNRISE THAT I WILL BE BREEDING TO MY ENGLISH DOG IN HOPES OF GETTING A LITTLE MORE OPEN TRAILING DOG ....IM BREEDING THEM FOR MYSELF TO IMPROVE ON WHAT I ALREADY HAVE...I KNOW THERE ARE SOME OF YOU GUYS THAT LIKE IT WHEN A WALKER IS BRED TO A ENGLISH DOG..LOL...

Posted by the wise man on 03-13-2012 05:00 AM:

i have owned both love my walkers now but if i couldnt have them i would take english

Posted by skeets on 03-13-2012 07:59 AM:

i aint never been able to tell to much difference in the two.

Posted by l.lyle on 03-13-2012 08:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by skeets
i aint never been able to tell to much difference in the two.

LOL I hate walking ten steps to an empty tree. I hate listening to a loud mouth in a bar.

Posted by skeets on 03-13-2012 08:22 AM:

to funny lyle lol. iam like jerry clowers monkey, i hate a lieing coon dog lol.

Posted by l.lyle on 03-13-2012 08:32 AM:

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Originally posted by skeets
to funny lyle lol. iam like jerry clowers monkey, i hate a lieing coon dog lol.

Funny how times have changed , Nowadays they pull up short or miss LOl. Or they Slick. But it's hard to get a fellow on here to admit to a lieing dog. And Gawd forbid , Jerry's Monkey take care of the problem. There is a post on Perspective on here tonight as a matter of Fact about when to give up. LOL. With a 225+/- first and first type of a lieing dog and Wondering what??????.

Posted by skeets on 03-13-2012 08:46 AM:

the reason why theres so many slick tree dogs now days is that people are willing to feed em, if times keep getting tougher with less money the slick treers will go the way of the buffalo, there want be many lol. when i was a kid i had to climb the tree and shake the coon or possum out cause i was to young to carry a gun, it didnt take me to many times not finding nutting up the tree before that dog had a new home. when you climb the tree and dont find anything, its hard to make excuses for the dog.lol i wouldnt climb a tree now if there was a coon as big as a elephant in it lol.

Posted by l.lyle on 03-13-2012 09:12 AM:

If it's October I need to be toting two or three out if I walk to a tree. I cut a break in Feb or March and settle for one after a good hard race. None is not allowable , giving moon, hollows , rutting nor strutting around, it's not allowable.

Posted by skeets on 03-13-2012 09:32 AM:

lol i hear ya mr. lyle, if a coon makes a scent and my dog smells it, she better be treeing that thing up the right tree by gosh. i dont care if the coons are rutting or on vacation, put that joker up the tree and stay until i get my old self to ya. i dont really think thats asking to much out of a dog, it aint like its rocket science lol.

Posted by buffaloriver on 03-13-2012 12:27 PM:

Last year my Son wanted us to start coonhunting again we hunted when he was just 2 and 3 and remembered me carrying him into the woods to the tree My son's name is Walker so even though we used to hunt english he wanted a Walker dog so we bought him a lil gyp dog at St Jude to start working with and a few weeks later bought an older gyp to run with her . We had fun at the end of the summer and early fall . Seen a few coons but most of the time we just couldnt shine the tree with all the leaves. Well school started back and then deer season rolled around and we didnt run them dogs pulled em out early Jan. first night old gyp went 20 yds into woood treed like crazy thought oh yea here we go went to tree slick turn her out again went down creek treed a den took em home the young dog just ran around like an idiot. My son and I took them dogs out every night that week made a lot of trees never saw a coon . I told my husband that the dog was crazy So when he got off that fri we took her to really good place and turned her out made 5 trees in an hour all slick . Thats when we realized she was prob slick all those times I thought the leaves was keeping me from seeing the coon . Needless to say those dogs got sold and I went and bought me a couple english dogs and We are having a ball with them . Just like old times. I am sure there are good and bad in every breed and a lot of it is who trains the dog not the color of their furr.

Posted by big boy cain on 03-13-2012 02:48 PM:

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Originally posted by skeets
the reason why theres so many slick tree dogs now days is that people are willing to feed em, if times keep getting tougher with less money the slick treers will go the way of the buffalo, there want be many lol. when i was a kid i had to climb the tree and shake the coon or possum out cause i was to young to carry a gun, it didnt take me to many times not finding nutting up the tree before that dog had a new home. when you climb the tree and dont find anything, its hard to make excuses for the dog.lol i wouldnt climb a tree now if there was a coon as big as a elephant in it lol.

you said that alright if people would do awy with slick treeing dogs.there would be less of them. we have went through 7 dogs in the past two years just now got one thats seems good enough to suet us hes not 60% he is 99% i remember 2 trees we could not find the coon both himlocks or pine?and this dog is only 14 months old

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Posted by Balsamgrove on 03-13-2012 04:09 PM:

Walkers are all around better for me louder mouth, tree harder and the right bloodline knows how to get to the tree, the bad things that have turned me away from the english breed from the ones i've hunted with is they have weeker mouths, they babble like crazy and/or they put way to much mouth on the track, but i'd take either breed if its a coondog!!!

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Posted by oldsmobile63 on 03-13-2012 04:44 PM:

hey

as long as it tracks and trees it the dog for me but i do like english

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Posted by 1nighthunter on 03-13-2012 07:04 PM:

I like a dog that gets treed has the meat and can run and trail if that"s what it takes to get him up so long has its a hound I am not color blind no knock on the curs they are just not my cup of tea

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Posted by englishhunter31 on 03-13-2012 07:59 PM:

I think english have a much colder nose. Walkers are way earlier starters though, unless you get a way above average english. But I will hunt either breed.

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