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Posted by Jeff Rusher on 09-24-2003 02:08 PM:

? on a Silent dog

If a dog is silent on the ground is there anyway to get him open on the ground more. Or is this the way he will always be?

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Posted by Jim Harris on 09-24-2003 02:13 PM:

Depending on the age of the dog, if it's an older hound, then most times they are going to remain that way. If it's a younger hound, you can try turning loose some coons in front of him so he's running red hot tracks, that should get him opening quite a bit. Keep doing that and eventually wean him off hot coons to wild coon tracks and see if he continues opening well on track. This might work, about the only thing I've ever heard anybody use to get one to opening more on track, but it's alway's been used on a young dog.

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Posted by A.L on 09-24-2003 03:12 PM:

I have a 4year old male dog that for most of his life has been hunted alone. He would not open more than 3 or sometimes for times on track. That was a good track. I began to hunt himin the hunts and for about 4 months I only hunted him with other dogs. many of these opened alot!!! on track. He is now opening quite a bit on track


Posted by Oak Ridge on 09-24-2003 04:51 PM:

I have a two year old walker female that uses her mouth "sparingly" on the ground. Probably more quiet than I really like.

I have found that the more coon that I put out to her, the quieter she gets, so we have this never ending routine....she opens on the ground, gets treed right, gets the coon....she does this for a while and everything goes great.....pretty soon she gets more and more silent on the ground, and the less often she gets the coon at the end of the race....eventually she starts opening on the ground again and we start all over....

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Posted by Sawblade on 09-24-2003 05:43 PM:

Try it thick

With young dogs that don't like to open on track ,I've found that hunting them in really thick cover like a clearcut or heavy swamp and alder patches . can get a dog to open up more . they seem to get frustrated not being able to {RUN} as fast as they would like and they get to barking more because of it.

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Posted by willscrk on 09-24-2003 06:31 PM:

lot of the dogs i train open freely when young and when you start hunting them with other dogs they sense the competition and tighten up on the ground. i believe a smart dog will learn that he will catch the coon faster if he shuts up. have noticed lot of them will get tighter if you are giving them a lot of coon. i dont think there is much you can do to get them to open more.

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Posted by bns3 on 09-24-2003 07:03 PM:

would be a good dog to PKC hunt if he'll get and stay treed. Make it alot tougher on the me too dogs.


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