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Posted by NorthernCreek on 12-03-2011 12:45 AM:

pup trainer wanted

Looking for a good pup trainer don't care of breed or if its reg as long as its a coon treer pm with what you have thanks

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Posted by l.lyle on 12-03-2011 05:13 AM:

My opinion. A pup trainer is a superior dog. Not old and worn out. A trainer is faster' more accurate,won't chase trash a pup starts, and not mean or fussy. Probably the best dog in anybody's kennel. A slow trainer is fine for a 4 month old pup but quickly inadequate for a six month old.Just jacklight some coons to shhoot out to a pup if that is all you are after.

Posted by NorthernCreek on 12-03-2011 05:51 AM:

Not at all what i want i want a experianced hound for my young gyp to go with

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 12-03-2011 06:12 AM:

I will take that slow dog if you don't want it. Never had a put that would stay behind one if it could out run or out track it. Once they start out running it and the old dog quits catching up to the pup and straightening out the track every time it makes a loss the old dog can stay at home till tracking get hard or I have another pup.

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Posted by l.lyle on 12-03-2011 06:48 AM:

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I will take that slow dog if you don't want it. Never had a put that would stay behind one if it could out run or out track it. Once they start out running it and the old dog quits catching up to the pup and straightening out the track every time it makes a loss the old dog can stay at home till tracking get hard or I have another pup.

That is a point to consider. I thought you trained yors by themselves to be independent.I train all mine with my very best dogs. My best dogs and pups make lots of tempoary losses in the marsh. The ahead dog opens and the behind dog hushes . If not I have a potential babbler on my hands. After a half hour or so they get tired enough to quit that babblig excitement and get honest. I call mine independent when I cut one loose and he hunts, strikes, tracks, runs,vand trees a real live coon - see and kill. Other than that, if I had five or six all out and they got to treeing their own coon independantly, I would have a mess on my handss.That's in the marsh, In the woods no reason for a young pup even to make a loss long enough for a slow dog to catch up on a decent track. But something to consider.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 12-03-2011 07:58 AM:

I have never had over 3 coon dogs at a time. I like a old dog a good prospect and a pup. When I got back in it this time I didn't have much money and am just haveing to work my way up.
I like an independant dog but not like most on here. To me an independant dog will go to another dog that opens if he doesn't have anything going wet but is independant enough to keep working his own if he has allready struck.
I wouldn't feed one of those that goes there own way no matter what. The reason I am training them by themselves is becouse I don't have a pup trainer. Sure wish I did.
Another thing here is the defination of slow dog. My old pup trainer I had was to slow for comp. but he could move a bad track. Mostly what I liked about him is he was accurate and and with a pup that wouldn't leave my feet he would hunt within 50-100 yards so the pup would go to him. He would come in every now and then to try to get them to. By himself he would go threw a section but he would cover it well. He would allso come in and tell on anything running trash.
That is what got him killed. I sold him, he came in to the guy in a comp. hunt and imbarrest the guy. He grabed him buy the skin and threw him in the box. The dog bit him in the process. So he got him back out and shot him. I think he was 10 by then. Some people arent man enough to even own a dog.

Posted by l.lyle on 12-03-2011 09:03 AM:

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I have never had over 3 coon dogs at a time. I like a old dog a good prospect and a pup. When I got back in it this time I didn't have much money and am just haveing to work my way up.
I like an independant dog but not like most on here. To me an independant dog will go to another dog that opens if he doesn't have anything going wet but is independant enough to keep working his own if he has allready struck.
I wouldn't feed one of those that goes there own way no matter what. The reason I am training them by themselves is becouse I don't have a pup trainer. Sure wish I did.
Another thing here is the defination of slow dog. My old pup trainer I had was to slow for comp. but he could move a bad track. Mostly what I liked about him is he was accurate and and with a pup that wouldn't leave my feet he would hunt within 50-100 yards so the pup would go to him. He would come in every now and then to try to get them to. By himself he would go threw a section but he would cover it well. He would allso come in and tell on anything running trash.
That is what got him killed. I sold him, he came in to the guy in a comp. hunt and imbarrest the guy. He grabed him buy the skin and threw him in the box. The dog bit him in the process. So he got him back out and shot him. I think he was 10 by then. Some people arent man enough to even own a dog.

The only reason I have a good many trained dogs right now is because I got down about 25 years ago and swore that would never happen again. I finally trained a good one from scrtch after several tries. It can be done but hard as heck with several flunkies in training. The most I ever paid for a dog was 500 dollars and that sure was a waste. - had money and my old buddy needed help is why I did it. If I add up all the dogfeed for those tears I reckon I could have paid. A lot more. But, like you I now know what kind of dog I want and what kind I just cankt tolerate.I still called my old walker a pup trainer that at wr died in the woods hunting during the grand American last year. He had been what I call an ultimate trainer since he was a year and ahalf old when I got to trusting him. When he got old I used him for a strkedog because that is about all he was stii fit for other than when he would get to the tree he would make a big cicle and move on. Those young dogd learned mighty quick they better not get carried away with their treeing nonsense. I can easy see what happened to your old dog by a fellow that let's a dog get him feeling embarassed. Mine still do it to me from time to time and - hunt by myself mostly. Sorry about your dogs outcome.

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