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Posted by Coontravker49 on 11-09-2011 04:11 AM:

Dog ?

I have a 2year old B&T that shows in the woods but seems to not want company but when hunted alone he acts the same way he will go out nd hunt he will strike on track but cant get him to hold a tree.. I have shot coons out to him but still having that problem any ideas on what to do or info on what I can do

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Posted by T. Rich on 11-09-2011 04:56 AM:

hunt the hair off him

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Posted by Coontravker49 on 11-09-2011 05:34 PM:

do you think its where he is only 2 iv been told that next year nothing will be able to touch him but i just dont know im startin to get disapointed with him

Posted by tlewis_2003 on 11-14-2011 09:58 PM:

I am having the same problem with my 1yr old Walker gyp. She will tree about 5-6 barks then comes and finds me if I can't get there within that amount of barks.

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Posted by ole bo on 11-14-2011 10:14 PM:

i ain't had this problem with a coon dog but we've fixed this problem with a squirrel dog. If at all possible try to get to him maybe on buckets and scold him to get him back on the tree and tie him to every tree. i know that a hound is different than a squirrel dog but it would be worth a try

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Posted by Tom Gourley on 11-14-2011 10:20 PM:

Same problem here with a 16 month old. He really runs a hell of a track, mouth all the way then gets quiet at the tree. I am gonna do some experimenting this weekend but any advice would be good.

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Posted by red hot sassy on 11-14-2011 10:28 PM:

stay close to him when he trees tie him there then walk away for a bit then go bk and pet him up good then shoot the coon out to him then put the coon back up the tree then leve for a 1/2hr do that it will work

Posted by Coontravker49 on 11-15-2011 03:38 AM:

Red I have done that it didnt help when I got him I noticed he acted like he had been beat hard b4 just by his actions he would be treed when you walked up he would huncker down like he had been beat for treeing or something.. But with that said you show him a coon he goes crazy but i thought by the age of 2 he should be up to treeing with or without company considering my one year old walker is startin to show him up after a few coons knocked out to her. IDK though i guess when he feels like it he will show me up.... but what dont make sense is when i got him i was told he was started and he treed a coon the first night out with him and treed at the start of this season and now goes back to like he is doing it wrong or somethin could it be his confidence OR SOMETHING

Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-15-2011 01:25 PM:

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has he been hunted alot up to this point if he was layed up for a long period it will really set a young dog back maybe somebody owned him and was mean to him at the tree trying to make him tree you have to have nerves of steel when it comes to young hound at 2 yrs he might make it and might not i would put alot of coon down to him and really praise him if he dont come around after 3 or 4 months aint gonna make it get rid of him start over with something else jmo

Posted by Coontravker49 on 11-15-2011 07:30 PM:

I agree with you he didnt set all summer with me but did hunt with a ill dog could that have something to do with it

Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-15-2011 07:37 PM:

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yea hunting him with a ill dog can really mess a young dog up that could be very well whats wrong with him he might get over it and he may never hunting with a ill dog is never has a good ending hope you the best of luck with him

Posted by Coontravker49 on 11-15-2011 07:42 PM:

thanks im gonna need it I have noticed some changes in him just by gettin him out and working with him on a coon hide instaed of his tail tucked he has it up now and he still has some play in him not much but its there i think he will snap out of it but its gonna take alot of work I have thought about sending him somewhere to have him worked harder than i can

Posted by Coontravker49 on 11-15-2011 07:50 PM:

also here is something else that i cant make sense ou of if you turn a caged coon out he will run it and stay put with it even with company but I noticed the last time out he would back track at least 4 times back and fourth to the tree like he isnt sure I really think he wasnt hunted as much as i was told when i got him and after a few more coons to him he should come on but like in the last post up here he was hunted with a ill dog back in the summer and it did set him way back. but he is showing signs of comming out of it im gonna try all of this that you all have suggested and see if i can break him out of it.. I have broke him from hunting extreamly wide

Posted by starplott on 11-15-2011 10:32 PM:

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Originally posted by Coontravker49
Red I have done that it didnt help when I got him I noticed he acted like he had been beat hard b4 just by his actions he would be treed when you walked up he would huncker down like he had been beat for treeing or something.. But with that said you show him a coon he goes crazy but i thought by the age of 2 he should be up to treeing with or without company considering my one year old walker is startin to show him up after a few coons knocked out to her. IDK though i guess when he feels like it he will show me up.... but what dont make sense is when i got him i was told he was started and he treed a coon the first night out with him and treed at the start of this season and now goes back to like he is doing it wrong or somethin could it be his confidence OR SOMETHING

I had a year and a half plott female that had been abused. Didn't matter.what you worked on a cage, she would flat tear herself up trying to take it on. Pretty bawl mouth too on track and fast machine gun chop on tree.

Put a tracking collar on her and let her out on her first bear, she came off track and hid under the truck as soon as the door shut. (abuse went beyond physical beating to abuse with shock collar)

Can't remember how many times she was turned out now before she actually made a track. But she finally got the balls to do so. The bear crossed the road where I parked and was treed about 50 yards away. You could hear that bawl mouth coming in. She hit the road screaming, saw us, shut up, and crawled over the hill tickling her chest with her tail.

When we got to the tree (she was hitting it hard for half hr before we went in) she shut up tight. The bear was getting restless and we just let the dog be (wouldn't take her eyes off the bear, but wouldn't make a sound, just sit and shiver). When the bear really got moving she'd bawl and duck like she was expecting a shock/beating. Just one quick bawl and flinch.

I took her out coon hunting on a long line all collared up many times. She wanted to work the tracks and go with the other dogs. I wouldn't turn her loose till she barked, then bark more the next time.

Took her to a field trial in MT and tied her out collared up right next to the starting line, of course they brought the caged coon right by her first thing. She finally decided that day to let all hell break loose and she barked all afternoon. I'd come by every now and then and wait for her to forget I was there and bark, pet her up, and let her be for a while.

After that I only had one issue out coon hunting where she left tree (was hunting w strange people and dogs for first time) when we got there. She didn't go far, as soon as that coon hit the ground she came out of nowhere right between two strangers like a Mack truck spot on that coon.

It took 2 years to get her from peeing and hiding when I even looked her direction to being able to have a respectable hunting dog. She was 3 when she started winning marathon tree contests (dogs fighting, strangers yelling and grabbing dogs). When that little bitch was treed she was treed and she wasn't going anywhere. She won a lot of tree contests in several states.

I haven't included all the work that went into her. It WAS a long haul from point A to point tree. But she turned into a coon killing hair pulling heat seeking missile. Saw that bitch roll down a hill or two latched on to a bear, get rolled on, and get up and right back on it. She was one aggressive little terror on game, soft and meek around people.

I know she is long dead by now, but she was one of my favorite hounds in 25 years of hound hunting. Probably because put so much into her and watched her progression. She went to Germany when I retired her. A German hunter (who had a few plotts from me) loved her and just had to have her (easier hunting ground).

Go with your gut. I can't tell you how many people ate crow over her. She was too beat to hunt, not worth the feed, just brood bitch material, etc the first 10 mos.

I think one of the funniest times was right after she was starting to go out with strange people/dogs off lead. Keith Durkee kicked ol Rummie loose at Wilcox. She went out a drop or two with nothing. The next drop she wasn't having any of this not catching. She came back quite proud of herself prancing right out of the woods towards us, head held high, and brought me a big fat chicken. Brought it right to hand like a retriever.

Keith razzed me about that until later that night (still no coons) he tried to grab hold of a skunk thinking it was Rummie coming back up the draw.

Abuse can be undone.

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Posted by Coontravker49 on 11-16-2011 02:08 AM:

I agree with you on that

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