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Posted by get rythym on 08-07-2011 04:37 AM:

any suggestions on gettin one to tree???????????

i gotta 8 month old pup outta cutter and he's a lil moody he'll run track like a champ looks like a old dog when he's runnin but when it comes to treein he seems moody one night he'll tree pretty good and then the next drop he'll run track but wont tree a lick,i've been tying him back when he dont tree and what not now i know he's still a pup and got a lot to learn but i was wonderin if yall had any remidies or anything yall do or just any opinions to help me out

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Posted by Virgil on 08-07-2011 04:54 AM:

Not trying to sound like a smart ass but he is only 8 months old. If he is running track well at that age he should come around.

Have you hunted him any by himself?? I've seen some young dogs learn that they can just mill around and let the old dogs tree and still get a taste of the coon.

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Posted by Walker9615 on 08-07-2011 05:17 AM:

Sounds to me like he needs meat in his mouth, I've straighten a few out for folks that would do that, i would hunt him by hisself an start poppin them out to him there's would usually tree for a Lil while but quit, I would stay rite with em even if I had to run. In once they treed work em a Lil then pop it out then maybe hang it in a tree an mess with em again.

Posted by get rythym on 08-07-2011 05:27 AM:

i have took him by hisself but its so hot and dry down here right it dont do him any good i took him the other night and cut him by hisself and he struck a bad track and ran it but when he got it on the ridge he couldnt do anything with it and quit i dont wanna push him in this heat and it being so dry and all but i really dont wanna give him a coon if he dont tree it seems like that would be defeating the purpose of it,,that would make him depend on the other dogs to finish the track and ivin it to him would make him any better at treein in my opinion..but once i get to the tree he'll start treein up,but just stands there around the tree when i'm goin in accordin to my garmin..but i know it'll all come to him,,just gotta give it time

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Posted by T. Rich on 08-07-2011 06:51 AM:

Hunt, hunt, and more hunting lol and a few ass whoopings (from a coon) never hurt mine

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Posted by Bluedogman on 08-07-2011 02:08 PM:

Hunt him alone! Hunt, hunt hunt. It's the one on one that does it.

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Posted by HOBO on 08-07-2011 02:21 PM:

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Originally posted by get rythym
i have took him by hisself but its so hot and dry down here right it dont do him any good i took him the other night and cut him by hisself and he struck a bad track and ran it but when he got it on the ridge he couldnt do anything with it and quit i dont wanna push him in this heat and it being so dry and all but i really dont wanna give him a coon if he dont tree it seems like that would be defeating the purpose of it,,that would make him depend on the other dogs to finish the track and ivin it to him would make him any better at treein in my opinion..but once i get to the tree he'll start treein up,but just stands there around the tree when i'm goin in accordin to my garmin..but i know it'll all come to him,,just gotta give it time

This might be the one type of dog that I think needs a shake out coon. He needs to be hot on its heels when it goes up the tree so he's sooooo excited that he'll just explode.

Most times I'm against a shake out coon IF the dog is already treeing then I DON'T think they should EVER have a coon come out of the tree to rerun. If it comes out of the tree it needs to die at that tree 99% of the time.

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Posted by old ben on 08-07-2011 02:32 PM:

try turning one loose in front of him during the day

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Posted by skeets on 08-07-2011 03:17 PM:

i would hunt him by hisself and around water this time of year, a young dog will tackle to tough a track sometimes but the only way they can learn is by doing it. when he starts treeing them hard ones youll have a coon dog.

Posted by get rythym on 08-07-2011 03:28 PM:

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try turning one loose in front of him during the day

i caught a coon the other day and me and my buddies put a collar him and tied a rope to him and turnt him loose and turnt my pup behind him he treed and did great but he was lookin at it and i would pull the coon down the tree and let it run back up so to excite him more he did good,,but i know he's goona make a coondog but idk maybe i just wanna help push him along to make it easier..

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 08-07-2011 03:37 PM:

sounds to me like he is treeing when the scent is right
on the tree for him.i wouldnt try a whole lot just expose
him.

Posted by joe massey on 08-07-2011 04:05 PM:

give him time an hunt him or if you want to just mayby get rid of him give me a call 828 7797810 been wanting a young dog off cutter

Posted by get rythym on 08-07-2011 07:52 PM:

its been so hot down here when he does tree he only trees for a couple minutes and then he gets too hot and starts jumpin so i really dont wanna hunt him due to that cause i dont want to get him used to jumpin on the tree

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Posted by Travis Brown on 08-07-2011 08:01 PM:

The pup is probably only treeing when he is sure the coon is there. The dry conditions along with the old dog beating him there is probably making it tough on him. Experience will probably help.

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Posted by old ben on 08-07-2011 10:09 PM:

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i caught a coon the other day and me and my buddies put a collar him and tied a rope to him and turnt him loose and turnt my pup behind him he treed and did great but he was lookin at it and i would pull the coon down the tree and let it run back up so to excite him more he did good,,but i know he's goona make a coondog but idk maybe i just wanna help push him along to make it easier..

how did you get a collar on it ?

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Posted by get rythym on 08-07-2011 10:23 PM:

i had a buddy hold its head down with a catcher,i held down his back half down and another one put the collar on him...its a easy process but you gotta have weldin gloves on...they tend to try to bite you when you doin it lol.

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Posted by GLANCY'S 7 MILE on 08-07-2011 10:32 PM:

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The pup is probably only treeing when he is sure the coon is there. The dry conditions along with the old dog beating him there is probably making it tough on him. Experience will probably help.

Got to remember that he's a puppy still! If it's dry scent will leave alot quicker! Plus it's hott, the heat alone will make him not want to tree. I wouldn't push him real hard right now, hunt him 1 or 2 times a week, and try to give him the ones he tree's on, to get his confidence up. The saying goes you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Be patient he will be fine!

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Posted by get rythym on 08-07-2011 11:10 PM:

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Got to remember that he's a puppy still! If it's dry scent will leave alot quicker! Plus it's hott, the heat alone will make him not want to tree. I wouldn't push him real hard right now, hunt him 1 or 2 times a week, and try to give him the ones he tree's on, to get his confidence up. The saying goes you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Be patient he will be fine!

yeah thats what i've been doin is huntin him 1 to two nights a week i really aint wantin to push him to hard but next week its suppose to be a lot cooler..mid 80's here lately its been upper 90's and heat index in the 105's...

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 08-08-2011 01:02 AM:

blow dry trees

around pot holes of water in the creek

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