UKC Forums
Show all 9 posts from this thread on one page

UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- UKC Coonhounds (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4)
-- Got the coon but leaves the tree! (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=423238)


Posted by Wes Keys on 04-25-2011 05:01 AM:

Got the coon but leaves the tree!

What can I do to make this dog stay treed. She is 18 mo. old deadly accurate. Treed one last night byherself when we get there shes runnin around . I led her back to the tree she started treein a little. Treed one tonite by herself when we where goin to her got about 50 yards from her she leaves. I went back in the direction she was treed and she went back ,showed the tree and I found the coon. also when hunting with other dogs she will usuallyrun track and go to the tree and when another dog trees she will leave, and stand about 30 or 40 yards away. anybody got anything?

__________________
Home of Nite Ch Carolina's Cotton Candy
Key's Stylish Slash
Key's Stylish Hanna
Douglas Lake Kennel
Call: 865-322-1404


Posted by WeeMan2 on 04-25-2011 06:07 AM:

mine does the same exact thing and she is 16 months old, i just keep getting to her quick as i can and tying her. and leave her and make her tree awhile. She will get it eventually. when you start knockin coons out to her she will stay better. Just takes time , its a confidence thing.coons make a difference though. you will just have to pet her up real good till season comes in till you can knock some out to her.So just keep getting to her as quick as you can and gettin her tied to the tree and pet her up real good. She will stay better and better.

__________________
Jonathon Williamson


Posted by G L Weller on 04-25-2011 12:30 PM:

I’m not trying to be a smart a$$ but the truth is you can teach a dog to do many things but staying treed is not one of them. Most likely after trying everything you and everyone else can think of you’ll still have a dog that you can never fully trust to stay treed. Nobody can make a dog hunt or stay treed if the dog don’t have the desire to do so. I’m not saying that the dog won’t tree a coon in some sort of fashion and I’m not saying that the dog won’t get better with age and stay treed at times, but I am saying that most likely you will never be sure if the dog will stay treed or not. About all you can do is continue to hunt the dog and hope that dog starts sticking to the tree but it will only happen if the dog has the desire to stay treed. You can’t teach the dog to stay treed and you can’t beat it into the dog, the dog has to have the desire to stay treed. I wish I had the magic answer but there’s not much you can do for a dog that don’t want to stay treed. Good luck with your dog.

__________________
Yadkin River Ti'll I Die


Posted by Dusty Manning on 04-25-2011 12:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by WeeMan2
mine does the same exact thing and she is 16 months old, i just keep getting to her quick as i can and tying her. and leave her and make her tree awhile. She will get it eventually. when you start knockin coons out to her she will stay better. Just takes time , its a confidence thing.coons make a difference though. you will just have to pet her up real good till season comes in till you can knock some out to her.So just keep getting to her as quick as you can and gettin her tied to the tree and pet her up real good. She will stay better and better.




This is the best thing that you can do for pup or a dog that is leaving trees tye them out for a while every time that you get her treed it makes all the diffrence


Posted by Knox on 04-25-2011 02:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by G L Weller
I’m not trying to be a smart a$$ but the truth is you can teach a dog to do many things but staying treed is not one of them. Most likely after trying everything you and everyone else can think of you’ll still have a dog that you can never fully trust to stay treed. Nobody can make a dog hunt or stay treed if the dog don’t have the desire to do so. I’m not saying that the dog won’t tree a coon in some sort of fashion and I’m not saying that the dog won’t get better with age and stay treed at times, but I am saying that most likely you will never be sure if the dog will stay treed or not. About all you can do is continue to hunt the dog and hope that dog starts sticking to the tree but it will only happen if the dog has the desire to stay treed. You can’t teach the dog to stay treed and you can’t beat it into the dog, the dog has to have the desire to stay treed. I wish I had the magic answer but there’s not much you can do for a dog that don’t want to stay treed. Good luck with your dog.



I have to disagree, you can teach a young dog to stay treed. I have seen MANY young ones that will leave a tree and go back in to it when you head them in to the tree. Most of the time they need a little more time and patience, its good to hunt one by itself when they are doing this and each time they tree let them stay treed a little longer before heading to them. It takes time, each dog at its own pace. Good luck.................Tim

__________________
Hoosier-State Kennels
=========================
Proud Member of Team Slugger
=====================


Posted by wayne Mcclellan on 04-25-2011 02:45 PM:

This is how i would tackle this problem: Hunt her by herself. When she trees start to her. If she quits treeing, cut your light off and wait until she gets back on the tree before your proceed. If she does it again, do the same thing. Eventually, she will learn to stay until you get there. When you do, reward her with praise.

__________________
I train what I hunt. If you don't get wet, muddy, ripped and torn by cat claw briars 4 nights a week, don't try to train a pup. buy a broke dog.

CH, GRNITECH, ROCK RIVER RUBY (RIP)
GR NITE CH, WILLOW HILL WHITEY (RIP)
GR NITE CH MCCLELLAN'S Nite Warrior Mac (Rock River Sackett, Jr & Heavy Hillbilly Mac blood) Qualified for World Hunt 2016.
COLTRANE'S INSANE BOOMER-In Training
MCCLELLAN'S HAPPY HOUR MOLLY--In Training


Posted by redtide on 04-26-2011 04:55 PM:

you can definately teach a dog to stay treed...yes it does take patience. some are more natural, some need more teaching.

As already mentioned, tie her to the tree as much as possible and leave her longer and longer, rewarding her for being there (whatever your method - praising, shooting out coons, both, etc.).

One other thing you can do is trap a live one and run drags with the coon in the trap (like a field trial). When she gets to the tree, be sure she can see the coon - at first even dangling it real low. Progressively put it higher and higher until it is as high as you can get. Each time, tie her to the tree and have her tree as long as possible before she gets bored or too tired. It will be a patient progression. Just don't give up on her. A lot of dog become "cull" dogs, not because the dog didn't do their job, but because the owner/training didn't stick with theirs.

__________________
Redtidedawgs
James C. Guy
Wetumpka, Alabama
334-580-7940

https://redtidekennels.wordpress.com/home/

http://i53.tinypic.com/xpq06h.jpg
NITECH 'PR' THORN'S ROLEX (R.I.P.)


Posted by Jim Hill on 04-26-2011 04:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by redtide
you can definately teach a dog to stay treed...yes it does take patience. some are more natural, some need more teaching.

As already mentioned, tie her to the tree as much as possible and leave her longer and longer, rewarding her for being there (whatever your method - praising, shooting out coons, both, etc.).

One other thing you can do is trap a live one and run drags with the coon in the trap (like a field trial). When she gets to the tree, be sure she can see the coon - at first even dangling it real low. Progressively put it higher and higher until it is as high as you can get. Each time, tie her to the tree and have her tree as long as possible before she gets bored or too tired. It will be a patient progression. Just don't give up on her. A lot of dog become "cull" dogs, not because the dog didn't do their job, but because the owner/training didn't stick with theirs.

id lisen too this guy , ive had a few that would mill a little at tree or meet me at the tree, worked with them a little and one became very very good

__________________
If You Cant Stand Behide Our Troops ,Then Try Standing In Front Of Them
Jim Hill 651-775-1783

Been following these walker dogs since 1983,and love every min of it !!!!





http://minnesotastatecoonhunters.webs.com/

Use SunSpot Lights, so bright its like the sun came out at night !!!


Posted by josh on 04-26-2011 05:25 PM:

Wow......


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:29 PM.
Show all 9 posts from this thread on one page

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.3.0
Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000 - 2002.
Copyright 2003-2020, United Kennel Club