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Posted by WWRIDGERUNNER on 03-10-2011 05:06 PM:

Reading a pedigree

I have heard people saying that there dog was 3/4 buck or 1/8 charlie what does that mean and how do they come up with the factions of whats in a dog,thanks Wayne

Posted by Majestic Tree H on 03-10-2011 05:57 PM:

First Off the Precentages Are Only By the Paperwork And Have NO Relation to the Actual Genetics that Exists in any breeding .. !!! Their just way to many avenues the Genetics can take and Every Pup in a Litter is Different ..

But this is Sim. to what their Trying to Say ..

Take this Ped. of one of my Breedings .. "Frosty" is 25% English Coonhound x 25% Treeing Walker x 32% Bloodhound x 18% Bluetick ..

The Reason I kept this Pup is that his Looks, Drive, Tree and Track Abilities Just about Match the Combo of the Breeds He is Made Of ..

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-10-2011 06:50 PM:

i dont get it majestic the only reason i keep a pup
is its looks. you know nothing about tracking ability,
drive etc at such a young age it cost no more to feed
a pretty pup than a ugly one.

Posted by Majestic Tree H on 03-10-2011 07:07 PM:

He was'nt just selected as a Pup .. I still have 3 out of the litter here at a year-1/2 old now. Plus others that are close ..

You Select from the Entire Litter at a Age that you know what you have ..

Posted by Larry Atherton on 03-10-2011 07:39 PM:

WWRidgerunner,

If you figure that the sire and dam contributes 50% and the grand sire and grand dam contributes 25% and so on down the line i.e. 12.5%, 6.25%, 3.125%. Then say that a dog has the same grand sire top and bottom then you get 12.5% + 12.5% = 25%.

Does that make sense or did I just muddy up the water?

By the way those percentages are referred to as the relationship coefficient.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-10-2011 07:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Larry Atherton
WWRidgerunner,

If you figure that the sire and dam contributes 50% and the grand sire and grand dam contributes 25% and so on down the line i.e. 12.5%, 6.25%, 3.125%. Then say that a dog has the same grand sire top and bottom then you get 12.5% + 12.5% = 25%.

Does that make sense or did I just muddy up the water?

By the way those percentages are referred to as the relationship coefficient.

50+50=100 2sets grands is another 100 is 200%
how many % can you get out of a dog

Posted by Skull Bones on 03-10-2011 09:22 PM:

It's just like read'in a tape measure!Figure that out and you'll have it licked.

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Posted by RRbluehound on 03-10-2011 10:26 PM:

I would be happy if half the people on here learned how to spell bred instead of bread LOL percentages are out of many's league

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 03-11-2011 03:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by blueticking: it
50+50=100 2sets grands is another 100 is 200%
how many % can you get out of a dog

The only time you add % together is if the same dog shows up more than once.lol Otherwise, ya can't add the effects up.

What you are looking at is the potential contribution of each ancestor on a pedigree for a given dog.

By the way 3/4 = 75% and 1/8 =12.5%. If'in ya need more math my tutoring fees is $20.00/hour.lol

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Posted by WWRIDGERUNNER on 03-11-2011 06:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Larry Atherton
The only time you add % together is if the same dog shows up more than once.lol Otherwise, ya can't add the effects up.

What you are looking at is the potential contribution of each ancestor on a pedigree for a given dog.

By the way 3/4 = 75% and 1/8 =12.5%. If'in ya need more math my tutoring fees is $20.00/hour.lol

its how they come up with that percentage of a dog in a pedigree and really does it matter when you go back that far anyway,alot of guys are looking for a specific trait in a dog of past, performing what they need or what in a dog and look to the pedigree to find it,well i guess that could be true but after so long wouldnt the blood traits beside looks be so diluted you wouldnt get that hunting trait you were looking for so i guess ill stick with what ive believed in the past. if i want a bear dog ill get a pup from dogs that hunt bear,if i wanted a coondog the same,not to say that a coondog wouldnt make a awesome beardog or visee versee lol.

Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-11-2011 11:21 PM:

really 3/4 dog how?14 dogs 7males 7 females
i guess his granddad was his moma

Posted by JEFFHESTER on 03-11-2011 11:31 PM:

LOL!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Larry Atherton
The only time you add % together is if the same dog shows up more than once.lol Otherwise, ya can't add the effects up.

What you are looking at is the potential contribution of each ancestor on a pedigree for a given dog.

By the way 3/4 = 75% and 1/8 =12.5%. If'in ya need more math my tutoring fees is $20.00/hour.lol

$20 an hour? How much does that come to for 6 weeks at 3 hours per day? LOL!!!!
Jeff

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-11-2011 11:36 PM:

sounds like trade dog talk to me

Posted by Virgil on 03-11-2011 11:41 PM:

This is very basic math people, its not rocket science.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-12-2011 12:19 AM:

ya when i go pay 500 for stud fee i want a 50% CHANCE
in getting 1.

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