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Posted by chester cooner on 03-09-2011 07:47 PM:

Any Toyota experts?

87 pickup 22r engine has begun to sometimes only click when I turn the ignition. New battery and usually after a few clicks it will turn over with plenty of power. Solenoid? Starter? Are they together on this model or do they have to be replaced together. I should probably stop pressing my luck and figure it out! I don't want a replay of my wife picking me and a couple of dogs in her van from several years ago. She hasn't let me live that one down yet.

Posted by GayleFlowers on 03-09-2011 07:58 PM:

the wire to your starter has a plug not making good contact.it plugs in the back of starter.

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Posted by walkerrunnersc on 03-09-2011 08:00 PM:

try tightening down the wires on the solenoid and if that dont help then put a starter on it that waht it sounds like to me

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Posted by Muckafoonee on 03-09-2011 08:05 PM:

The contacts in the starter are gone happened to me replace the starter or have it rebuilt its two little contacts that strike the armature when electricity is applied it'll drive you nuts trying to find the problem Toyota sells the contacts but its just as cheap to replace it I am a mechanic and it took a old school Tech to finally figure out my problem cause It was intermittent and therefore hard to track down

Trust me go get a starter from the parts house the contacts will be upgraded in it and you'll be trouble free

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Posted by chester cooner on 03-09-2011 08:19 PM:

Thanks you guys. Where is the solenoid located? I will have a look at the contacts for it and the starter if they look bad, I'll just replace it.

Posted by walkerrunnersc on 03-09-2011 08:22 PM:

its on the starter

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Posted by Muckafoonee on 03-09-2011 08:25 PM:

It is on the starter but be careful taking it apart there are springs and a ball bearing that need to be put back in correctly I replaced my contacts but the wearing contacts had done ruined the starter I got one for $50 bucks at the parts house

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Posted by chester cooner on 03-09-2011 08:44 PM:

One last thing. Do new or remanufactured starters usually come with a new solenoid or will I have to buy one separate?

Thanks Again

Posted by jodaviess1 on 03-09-2011 10:18 PM:

THE PLUG IN WIRE ON STARTER

THATS WHAT I HAD THE TROUBLE WITH. PULL OFF AND PLUG BACK IN. IF IT STARTS, TAKE A PLIERS AND CRIMP THE PLUG A BIT SO TO TIGHTEN WHEN YOU SLIP BACK ON THE CONNECTION. FIXED MINE. <v>

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Posted by jodaviess1 on 03-09-2011 10:22 PM:

SINCE WE ARE ON THE YOTA SUBJECT

ALL YOU YOTA OWNERS THAT HAVE THE V-6, DOES YOUR GAS MILEAGE SUCK AS BAD AS MINE? I COULD BE DRIVING A FULL SIZE FOR THE GAS THIS THING IS BURNING. I HEARD TELL OF SOMETHING THAT WEARS OUT IN THE FUEL INJECTION THAT ALLOWS FULL FLOW OF GAS INSTEAD OF PULSING LIKE IT SHOULD. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. <v>

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Posted by Muckafoonee on 03-09-2011 10:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chester cooner
One last thing. Do new or remanufactured starters usually come with a new solenoid or will I have to buy one separate?

Thanks Again

The solenoid is part of the starter it will be new/rebuilt as well with the upgraded thicker contacts its all one unit

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Posted by tmccormack on 03-09-2011 11:54 PM:

GAS

My 95 tacoma with a 23r four banger gets about 20 MPG. It gets the same as when it was new,now it has just under 300,000.I owned this thing over 15 years. Hunting truck / every day driver.

Posted by wibeagle8813 on 03-10-2011 12:50 AM:

Re: SINCE WE ARE ON THE YOTA SUBJECT

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Originally posted by jodaviess1
ALL YOU YOTA OWNERS THAT HAVE THE V-6, DOES YOUR GAS MILEAGE SUCK AS BAD AS MINE? I COULD BE DRIVING A FULL SIZE FOR THE GAS THIS THING IS BURNING. I HEARD TELL OF SOMETHING THAT WEARS OUT IN THE FUEL INJECTION THAT ALLOWS FULL FLOW OF GAS INSTEAD OF PULSING LIKE IT SHOULD. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. <v>

went down to the zones and got 24.7 mpg thats a dbl cab with the v6 but went bobcat hunting and got 18 so i changed the spark plugs to them laser ones and havent drove long ways with it yet but noticed a longer tank life already

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Posted by BUCKEYE BILLY on 03-10-2011 12:51 AM:

Re: SINCE WE ARE ON THE YOTA SUBJECT

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Originally posted by jodaviess1
ALL YOU YOTA OWNERS THAT HAVE THE V-6, DOES YOUR GAS MILEAGE SUCK AS BAD AS MINE? I COULD BE DRIVING A FULL SIZE FOR THE GAS THIS THING IS BURNING. I HEARD TELL OF SOMETHING THAT WEARS OUT IN THE FUEL INJECTION THAT ALLOWS FULL FLOW OF GAS INSTEAD OF PULSING LIKE IT SHOULD. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. <v>

i ve owed a million of them throw a can of sea foam in it.

Posted by BUCKEYE BILLY on 03-10-2011 12:58 AM:

Re: Any Toyota experts?

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Originally posted by chester cooner
87 pickup 22r engine has begun to sometimes only click when I turn the ignition. New battery and usually after a few clicks it will turn over with plenty of power. Solenoid? Starter? Are they together on this model or do they have to be replaced together. I should probably stop pressing my luck and figure it out! I don't want a replay of my wife picking me and a couple of dogs in her van from several years ago. She hasn't let me live that one down yet.

ive had a million of these old trucks. the starters wear out every 100,000 miles or so and the first thing they do is what your saying. just replace their cheap. i have one in the barn if you need one cheap. although they will click like that for a long time(sometimes) and then lock up for good. keep a hammer in the truck incase it locks up tap the starter pretty good she should turn a few more times to get ya home.

Posted by heckler on 03-10-2011 01:14 AM:

I had that problem with the starter and it turned out to be the contacts. I got the contacts from Toyota and replaced them myself. I think the cost was $9.00.

Perry, I get 20 MPG on my V6. That's all I could get out of it. I keep the air filter clean and that's the only thing that keeps it from getting worse. I think the V6 RPM's are too high and that is where the loss of gas mileage is going, in my opinion.

Sea Foam is good stuff, but has no lubricants for the soft parts and I wouldn't use over 4 oz to a tank. Lucas fuel treatment is not as harsh.

Posted by breezyoaks on 03-10-2011 01:46 AM:

MPG

I have an "08 Tundra with the 5.7........16.5mpg in and out of farms all day and 18ish if I get out and go on the big road...............funny deal ....381 hp will push a camaro right down the road and darn near same mpg as the 4 and 6 bangers...??

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Posted by BUCKEYE BILLY on 03-10-2011 04:28 AM:

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I had that problem with the starter and it turned out to be the contacts. I got the contacts from Toyota and replaced them myself. I think the cost was $9.00.

Perry, I get 20 MPG on my V6. That's all I could get out of it. I keep the air filter clean and that's the only thing that keeps it from getting worse. I think the V6 RPM's are too high and that is where the loss of gas mileage is going, in my opinion.

Sea Foam is good stuff, but has no lubricants for the soft parts and I wouldn't use over 4 oz to a tank. Lucas fuel treatment is not as harsh.

what year is your v6 is it a 3.0 I have 3.0 v6 now and have had I pile over the years . The best I have ever seen one get 18 mpg on high way.16 mpg banging around. I also have a 4.5 liter 6 cylinder that gets about 15 mph any time. Lots of power though

Posted by jodaviess1 on 03-10-2011 04:56 AM:

236,000 ON HER

I WOULD LOVE TO GET 20MPG. MORE IN BILLYS NECK OF THE WOODS AT 15 OR LESS. <v>

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Posted by Muckafoonee on 03-10-2011 05:17 AM:

I have a 22Re Four I'm getting 20mpg in town and around 24 on long highway stretches It's a 2wd and Im riding on 30/9.50/15 Wild Country MTX so I'm happy with my Mpgs

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Posted by heckler on 03-10-2011 05:48 AM:

Norm it's a 1995 extended cab with the 3.0 V6 with 286,000 miles. I was getting 15-17 mpg when I bought the truck with 90,000 miles. I changed the oil, plugs, and air filter and got it up to 20 mpg. I try to drive between 50-55 mph and keep the the rpm's around 2500. If I run over 60 mph I am losing mpg. I only hunt out of the truck.

Posted by heckler on 03-10-2011 06:00 AM:

Re: 236,000 ON HER

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Originally posted by jodaviess1
I WOULD LOVE TO GET 20MPG. MORE IN BILLYS NECK OF THE WOODS AT 15 OR LESS. <v>

The 3.0 is not a good motor from what I have been told. I was also told I was lucky that it is still running. I just baby it along and drive it slow. An older mechanic told me to go to the Nissan as the parts are cheaper and better power under the hood. He said there wasn't a nickels worth of difference in the trucks.

Posted by Randy Tallon on 03-10-2011 02:24 PM:

Had a couple of the 22r engines('89 and '91). My '06 with a 4.0 6cylinder is getting almost as good gas mileage....18/19 stop and go and 20/21 on the road. Get 18 pulling a 5x8 trailer full of wood.

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Posted by chester cooner on 03-10-2011 02:28 PM:

This truck I originally asked about has 450,000 miles on it. It still cleans up pretty nice when I want it to but does have some rust spots on it. It is on its second engine. The gas mileage isn't very good though. I have 31's on it..

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