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Posted by Tyler Vaden on 02-26-2011 04:36 PM:

Garmin Booster or AMP

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Who's got one, how do you like it, and what did you gain?

Posted by Tyler Vaden on 02-26-2011 06:17 PM:

Here is what some one said about it

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Originally posted by Riverbottom Ron
WE GOT OUR AMP AND INSTALED IT ,,WE GOT 8 MILES ON FLAT LAND COYOTE HUNTIN ,NEVER DROPED A DOG AT ANY TIME ,,THANKS THIS IS A BIG IMPROVMENT TO THE GARMIN IN THE HILLS IT WENT DOWN TO 6.8 ,,THANKS ALOT WE ARE VERY SATISFIED WHAT AN IMPROVMENT ON DISTANCE AND NOT DROPING COLLARS,,THANKS ,,,FROM THE RIVERBOTTOM ,,,RON

Posted by joshtee on 02-26-2011 07:34 PM:

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Originally posted by Tyler Vaden
Here is what some one said about it

Wow. Who sells those?

Posted by Tyler Vaden on 02-26-2011 07:41 PM:

There on back order but Quail Hill Kennel does

http://www.quailhillkennel.com/store%201%20trackers.htm

304-257-5138

$73.00
$5.00 to ship

Posted by joshtee on 02-28-2011 06:05 AM:

Anyone else try these out?

Anyone make their own?

Posted by Tyler Vaden on 03-05-2011 07:32 PM:

Has anybody used or seen one yet

Posted by Buckshot on 03-05-2011 07:39 PM:

These are the GRE Booster Amps and they do work. Years ago, I used it with the ICOM and it greatly increased the range of tracking. Others used them with other tracking systems to increase range.

Tracker built a Booster Amp in their Xtenna antenna for the Maxima that is similar to the GRE Booster Amps to increase range.

The GRE Booster Amps are used in the radio world.

Posted by wildbill on 03-06-2011 06:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyler Vaden
There on back order but Quail Hill Kennel does

http://www.quailhillkennel.com/store%201%20trackers.htm

304-257-5138

$73.00
$5.00 to ship

check this one out.$54
http://www.cbradiosplus.com/shop/pc...;idproduct=1938

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Posted by Tyler Vaden on 03-06-2011 06:28 AM:

They want $15 to ship and it does not come with the stuff you need jacks and coax.

Posted by wildbill on 03-06-2011 06:31 AM:

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Originally posted by wildbill
check this one out.$54
http://www.cbradiosplus.com/shop/pc...;idproduct=1938

quailhill's link says $48 for this one

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Posted by joshtee on 03-06-2011 06:33 AM:

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Originally posted by wildbill
check this one out.$54
http://www.cbradiosplus.com/shop/pc...;idproduct=1938

Saw that, but $15 to ship to me. Also, doesn't look like it comes w/ the cable that the other one comes with. By the time you get it all figured out, the $73 one looks pretty good.

Posted by joshtee on 03-06-2011 06:35 AM:

Beat me to it.

Posted by wildbill on 03-06-2011 06:45 AM:

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Originally posted by joshtee
Beat me to it.

lol

if you have a radio shack near you ,you might be able to cut some cost on cables/shipping,
,the one here has all the adapters,cables..
had to buy some adapers for wireless ant. and seen them,
has the same bnc connecters that my LL.electronics receiver takes..

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Posted by vetman1 on 03-06-2011 11:07 AM:

GRE Booster and Long Range Antenaa

Has anyone tried adding a GRE booster to the Garmin Long Range antenna? I think it would be just plug and play. The telescoping part of the antenna is connected by a BNC connector so the GRE booster should connect directly to the piece you hold in your hand and then the antenna should plug in the other end of the booster.

Just wondering since I don't know enough about antenna logistics to make sure that this would not cause problems. I am not trying to steal anyone's business, but I already have the long range antenna and this Garmin system is about to nickel and dime me to death with all the "accessories" I need for it to work "properly".

Thanks,
Thomas

Posted by steveburch on 03-06-2011 01:29 PM:

Booster

Already have this booster on my QuickTrac. with 2 of the adaptors. Going to switch it to my Garmin right now.

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Posted by Travis Eastman on 03-06-2011 01:45 PM:

Re: Booster

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Originally posted by steveburch
Already have this booster on my QuickTrac. with 2 of the adaptors. Going to switch it to my Garmin right now.

Lets us know how it works.

Posted by tra_cline on 03-06-2011 02:05 PM:

Is there any chance of damaging the garmin receiver from using this booster? Intellectualist or you other radio guys what are the down side to this booster?

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Posted by intellectualist on 03-06-2011 04:00 PM:

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Originally posted by tra_cline
Is there any chance of damaging the garmin receiver from using this booster? Intellectualist or you other radio guys what are the down side to this booster?

Thanks for your confidence! Personally, I would not use it because it is cumbersome. You are not going to carry all that in the woods with you are you? We already know we should not be transmitting around our Garmins (while they are on) with marine radios, and outside of that, the preamp will not hurt the Garmin and then that wouldnt really be the preamp, it would be the marine radio!

I bet if you had a three element yagi you would get as much if not more range with it than you would this preamp and the garmin long range hand held antenna, let alone the preamp and rubber duck combination pictured!
Another upside is that the yagi really can't fail you unless you run over it with the truck or something similar, because there are no electronic components to it.
The first thing we learn as ham radio operators is that if we have a budget to get a station on the air, we must use 90% of the budget on the antenna system (not preamps), and the remainder on the radio and accessories.

Posted by vetman1 on 03-06-2011 04:51 PM:

Garmin Booster and Antennas

I also looked into buying a Yagi Antenna. I called and spoke with a gentleman that makes the yagi antennas and he was not overly encouraging even though he would send me one for around $90. My understanding is that the Yagi would have to be specific for the Garmin as my old telemetry Yagi is "tuned" to around 219 frequency.

My question is where would the best money on an antenna be spent? Would a Yagi antenna perform better than a 48 inch, 5/8 wave MURS band magnetic mount antenna on the roof of my truck? I would think that the 48 inch tall Murs antenna would significantly out perform the smaller Garmin magnetic antennas, but how would it compare to a Yagi antenna? The MURS band antennas made for the Garmin run about $85 unless you make one from Ebay supplies for about $50. The cost of the GRE amplifier is only around $50 itself.

We do use lower sideband CB radios and I already have a Wilson magnetic antenna on my truck's roof. There is no way that I can separate the two antennas by the magic 10 foot rule some suggest to prevent burning up the Astro 220. Almost all of our radios have been "tuned" up to a higher output and some club members do run amplifiers in addition to their radios.

Thanks,
Thomas

Posted by intellectualist on 03-06-2011 05:35 PM:

Re: Garmin Booster and Antennas

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Originally posted by vetman1
I also looked into buying a Yagi Antenna. I called and spoke with a gentleman that makes the yagi antennas and he was not overly encouraging even though he would send me one for around $90. My understanding is that the Yagi would have to be specific for the Garmin as my old telemetry Yagi is "tuned" to around 219 frequency.

My question is where would the best money on an antenna be spent? Would a Yagi antenna perform better than a 48 inch, 5/8 wave MURS band magnetic mount antenna on the roof of my truck? I would think that the 48 inch tall Murs antenna would significantly out perform the smaller Garmin magnetic antennas, but how would it compare to a Yagi antenna? The MURS band antennas made for the Garmin run about $85 unless you make one from Ebay supplies for about $50. The cost of the GRE amplifier is only around $50 itself.

We do use lower sideband CB radios and I already have a Wilson magnetic antenna on my truck's roof. There is no way that I can separate the two antennas by the magic 10 foot rule some suggest to prevent burning up the Astro 220. Almost all of our radios have been "tuned" up to a higher output and some club members do run amplifiers in addition to their radios.

Thanks,
Thomas

The best money would be spent on an arrow antenna for around $50. Google arrow antennas.If you are referring to the antenna you pm'ed me the link about, was that not a "base station" antenna not specifically suited for mobile use? I did not look that close but as I stated in the PM, I can point you to sources much cheaper and just as good as that if it was even a mobile antenna at all.
Who did you speak to about the yagi antenna? Why did he say he was not encouraged? I can promise you, if you get a yagi and learn to use it poperly, you will be completely satisfied with the range but as I have said before, if your dogs get deep and you typically hunt in places where you can drive around and get closer, a magnet mount will probably be the way to go and avoid the hassle of the yagi.
The antenna you are looking at does have a "gain factor" because it is 5/8s wave antenna as opposed to a quarter wave, so it will have some gain as well as a larger "capture area" for the signal, and there is the problem for me. I want as small a footprint as possible without sacrificing alot of performance because I do not want to be constantly whacking the antenna with limbs while I am driving. You can always remove the antenna and redeploy it when needed but the larger antenna is going to be more aggravating to do that with and the magnet is going to have to be much larger and stronger.
The cb is 27 mhz, not 156 mhz like the marine radios so there is a large difference in operating frequency there.
Let me answer your questions:
The yagi needs to be close to the freq. of the garmin. Your telemetry yagi will not work well!
The murs antenna will outperform the smaller magnet mount, in theory!
The yagi will outperform the murs antenna if used properly in theory and actuality!

Posted by Tyler Vaden on 03-07-2011 02:48 AM:

I was thinking about getting some quick connecters then I could use my folding Ant then when I lost signal hook up the preamp

Posted by joshtee on 03-07-2011 05:50 PM:

Seems like these boosters would work well just leaving it attached to the roof mount antenna.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 03-07-2011 06:23 PM:

Re: Garmin Booster or AMP

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Who's got one, how do you like it, and what did you gain? [/B][/QUOTE]

What they don't tell you is that it shortens the life of your Garmin a great deal. It will slowly burn it up. Keying up a mic on a two way radio will do it to if done a lot.

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Posted by Tyler Vaden on 03-07-2011 06:37 PM:

Yeah I would say your right but it will save me from burning alot of gas and at $3.40 want take long to pay for a new garmin. I will just keep it in my pocket till I need it.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 03-07-2011 07:00 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Garmin Booster or AMP

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Originally posted by intellectualist
Who's got one, how do you like it, and what did you gain?

What they don't tell you is that it shortens the life of your Garmin a great deal. It will slowly burn it up. Keying up a mic on a two way radio will do it to if done a lot. [/B][/QUOTE]

By what first hand knowledge do you know this? Yes, transmitting on a marine radio in close proximity to a garmin can overload the front end and damage it but by what experience are you claiming the preamp in and of itself will damage the garmin?
I would not use one myself but there is no evidence to support that a preamp will damage the garmin. [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't know much about radios and such. I was reading what a tech said on another forum that did know a lot about them. He was saying his was allready getting weak and was going to quit useing his and was asking Garmin to try and do something about makeing the new ones hold up better useing them on the new models. Garmin didn't deny the problem so I took it he knew what he was talking about.

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