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Posted by willseeyalater on 01-06-2011 03:18 PM:

Dead redwings and starlings? Fishkills also

Something funny about all this. Anyone who lives in areas where this is or has happened want to tell us what you think? Is it a sign of the New Madrid fault warming up for a big quake or what? I don't buy into the fireworks or thunderstorm theory. Folks in HAZMAT suits picking up birds that died in high concentrations. Only one category of birds that roost and flock together and all died about the same moment and in a flock. What's going on here?

Fishkills also, not unheard of but these seem to be to coincidental.

I trust the eyes and ear of folks who hunt more than the notions of desk bound scientists.


Posted by Christy on 01-06-2011 03:37 PM:

NEW ORLEANS — Some 500 dead and dying birds fell onto a Louisiana highway on Monday, just three days after a similar incident in Arkansas.

The events have led to speculation running from poisonings to "End of Days" scenarios, but a key federal agency emphasized that mass bird die-offs are not that rare.

Most of the birds found on Louisiana Highway 1 near Point Coupee were red-winged blackbirds, as was the case in Beebe, Ark., some 360 miles away. The species is one of the most common in the United States, with a population estimated at up to 200 million.

Some of the Louisiana birds will be tested by the National Wildlife Health Center run by the U.S. Geological Survey. But a USGS spokesman told The Baton Rouge Advocate that USGS records showed 16 incidents in the last 30 years where more than 1,000 blackbirds have died all at once.

"These large events do take place," he said. "It's not terribly unusual."

The National Audubon Society agreed that mass bird die-offs are not rare. "Initial findings indicate that these are isolated incidents," Greg Butcher, Audubon's director of bird conservation, said in a statement.

The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries also weighed in, saying that necropsies on some birds indicated many "exhibited traumatic injuries." The birds might have flown into nearby power lines, it added.

Two dozen of them had head, neck, beak or back injuries.

About 50 dead birds were near a power line 30 or 40 feet from Louisiana Highway 1. About a quarter-mile away, a second group of 400 or more stretched from the power line and across the highway.


NBC News
Dead birds line a rural stretch of highway in Louisiana on Monday. Dan Cristol, a biology professor and co-founder of the Institute for Integrative Bird Behavior Studies at the College of William & Mary, said the Louisiana birds might have been ill or startled from their roost, then hit the power line.

"They don't hit a power line for no reason," he said.

In Arkansas, preliminary tests showed the blackbirds there, as many as 5,000, died after massive trauma. Experts said the birds were likely spooked by fireworks, lightning or some other loud event and then ran into each other and other objects as they fled at night while roosting.

"The birds suffered from acute physical trauma leading to internal hemorrhage and death," the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said in a statement Monday. "There was no sign of chronic or infectious disease."

The birds were otherwise healthy, according to the statement.

The injuries were primarily in the breast tissue, with blood clotting and bleeding in the body cavities.

Story: No poison found in birds that fell on town
Dr. George Badley, the state's top veterinarian, told NBC News that the birds died in midair, not on impact with the ground.

That evidence, and the fact that the blackbirds fly in close flocks, suggests they suffered some massive midair collision, he added. That lends weight to conclusion that they were startled by something.

'Loud noises'
Fireworks that night might have frightened the birds into such a frenzy that they crashed into homes, cars and each other. Some may have flown straight into the ground.

"It was New Year's Eve night. Everybody and their brother was shooting fireworks," said Beebe Police Chief Wayne Ballew. The city allows fireworks only on New Year's Eve and Independence Day.

The commission noted that "loud noises were reported shortly before the birds began to fall from the sky," adding that blackbirds seldom fly at night.

"The blackbirds were flying at rooftop level instead of treetop level" to avoid explosions above, according to Karen Rowe, an ornithologist with the commission. "Blackbirds have poor eyesight, and they started colliding with things."

Another theory was that severe weather such as lightning accounted for the loud noises but this was discounted because the violent weather had already left the area.

The commission also is trying to determine what caused the deaths of up to 100,000 fish over a 20-mile stretch of the Arkansas River near a dam in Ozark , 125 miles west of Beebe. The fish were discovered on Dec. 30.

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Posted by branchvillekell on 01-06-2011 03:53 PM:

i think this whole scenario is one to be thought of carefully. if it were fireworks, we should have ten million dead on the 5th of july. something is definately not right here. if they died in mid air, of course you would have broken bones when you hit the ground. jmo
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Posted by Christy on 01-06-2011 03:58 PM:

WHAT PUZZLES ME IS THE DIFFERENT STORIES ABOUT HOW THEY DIED.

ONE MINUTE THEY JUST FALL AND DIE. ONE MINUTE THEY ARE DEAD WHEN THEY HIT.

IT'S LIKE THEY CANT KEEP THEIR STORIES STRAIGHT.

WHO KNOWS.

I THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS TESTING SOME NEW SUPERSONIC WEAPON AND THE SHOCK WAVES FROM THE TEST CAUSED SOME OF THE BIRDS WITH ALREADY PRESENT BLOOD CLOTS TO BURST, HERMORAGE AND DIE BEFORE HITTING THE GROUND...OR SHORTLY THERE AFTER.

HEY, MY EXPLANATION MAKES BETTER SENSE THAN SOME THEY HAVE GIVEN. LOL.

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Posted by StrawberryMt on 01-06-2011 04:05 PM:

blackbirds nand starlings,wish whatever it was caused by would come my way,would save me some shells later lol

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Posted by Bluedogman on 01-06-2011 04:07 PM:

I was thinking the same thing. Bet those people are glad to be rid of them.

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Posted by branchvillekell on 01-06-2011 04:08 PM:

dont forget ducks too. and the fish. hmmm.


Posted by Robert Tracy Crockett on 01-06-2011 04:20 PM:

doesn't make sense

If it was the noise then every 4th of July birds would be falling everywere, also blunt force trama well maybe fallin a few hundred feet from the sky would look the same, I feel some sort
of electrical wave may have had something to do with it, just my feeling but something is wrong here.

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Posted by branchvillekell on 01-06-2011 04:36 PM:

i have been looking around at this, look up HAARP. that can explain some of what is going on. even with the weather. this is disturbing.


Posted by Family on 01-06-2011 05:00 PM:

just have to say.

remember the words " The Great and Dreadful Day"

for some it will be great and for some it will be dreadful. a short explanation.

remember the words " Faith and Fear cannot exist at the same time"

I'm Glad, the majority here suck. there is a reason the world thinks that americans are lovers of filthiness.

thats what I say.

go ahead and explain it scientifically, explain it to me how the folks running the Bp Rig were honest hard working folks who were not sinners and lovers of filthiness. and they just had an unfortunate mishap or an unfortunate reward for there labors.

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Posted by on 01-06-2011 06:10 PM:

Re: doesn't make sense

quote:
Originally posted by Tumuck
If it was the noise then every 4th of July birds would be falling everywere, also blunt force trama well maybe fallin a few hundred feet from the sky would look the same, I feel some sort
of electrical wave may have had something to do with it, just my feeling but something is wrong here.



These birds are not flocked together in the summer. If You have ever seen how they can be in that area in the winter. The whole sky can turn black with them. I Shot into a tree full of black birds with a 12 gauge and killed over 50. On of the large fire works going off in the middle of the flock would kill a bunch of them. The fish die offs happen all the time. You wouldn't even have heard of it if it had not been at the same time as the Beebe incident. The same with the LA birds.


Posted by Sprice on 01-06-2011 06:21 PM:

It seems to me if it were fireworks, there would be one big pile of dead birds rather than being spread out as the fireworks would have been shot off after dark at which time the birds would be roosted together in trees. JMO


Posted by Bob Hennessey on 01-06-2011 06:56 PM:

IN Mn. many farmers put what we call BOOMERS ( Propane guns ) that really BOOMS to scare the Blackbirds out of their corn and sunflower fields. I"ve never seen dead birds laying around from stress of the noise. There are sometimes thousands of birds, depends on the size of the field, eating at any one time in the field. Got to be something else.

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Posted by truly on 01-06-2011 07:52 PM:

Re: Re: doesn't make sense

quote:
Originally posted by Joey
These birds are not flocked together in the summer. If You have ever seen how they can be in that area in the winter. The whole sky can turn black with them. I Shot into a tree full of black birds with a 12 gauge and killed over 50. On of the large fire works going off in the middle of the flock would kill a bunch of them. The fish die offs happen all the time. You wouldn't even have heard of it if it had not been at the same time as the Beebe incident. The same with the LA birds.
Yeah, these things happen all the time folks. No need for you to have heard about it. Pay no attention to the fact that there are guys in hazmat suits picking up birds that died cause they were "spooked" or "ran into powerlines". It makes perfect sense that you would need to put on a hazmat suit to pick up birds that died of "natural causes". Nothing to worry about here. Now move along. Nothing to see. Move along folks. Nothing to talk about here. Move along folks. Nothing to see. Keep moving along folks. Go back to talking about Nascar, or football or tv programs about people dancing. Move along now- no need to worry your pretty little head about our environment. Nothing to see here.

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Posted by StrawberryMt on 01-06-2011 07:58 PM:

it was probably the black helicopters

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Posted by willseeyalater on 01-06-2011 08:24 PM:

Re: Re: Re: doesn't make sense

quote:
Originally posted by truly
Yeah, these things happen all the time folks. No need for you to have heard about it. Pay no attention to the fact that there are guys in hazmat suits picking up birds that died cause they were "spooked" or "ran into powerlines". It makes perfect sense that you would need to put on a hazmat suit to pick up birds that died of "natural causes". Nothing to worry about here. Now move along. Nothing to see. Move along folks. Nothing to talk about here. Move along folks. Nothing to see. Keep moving along folks. Go back to talking about Nascar, or football or tv programs about people dancing. Move along now- no need to worry your pretty little head about our environment. Nothing to see here.


Exactly, to much like the Wizard of Oz..."Ignore the man behind the curtain" or however that goes. Flocks of starlings and redwings have been roosting in the south and thunderstorms happen at night and when did it cause this many birds to check out together.


Posted by Riverview2 on 01-06-2011 08:38 PM:

Re: Re: Re: doesn't make sense

quote:
Originally posted by truly
Yeah, these things happen all the time folks. No need for you to have heard about it. Pay no attention to the fact that there are guys in hazmat suits picking up birds that died cause they were "spooked" or "ran into powerlines". It makes perfect sense that you would need to put on a hazmat suit to pick up birds that died of "natural causes". Nothing to worry about here. Now move along. Nothing to see. Move along folks. Nothing to talk about here. Move along folks. Nothing to see. Keep moving along folks. Go back to talking about Nascar, or football or tv programs about people dancing. Move along now- no need to worry your pretty little head about our environment. Nothing to see here.

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 01-06-2011 08:57 PM:

Probably just Al Gore's private jumbo jet flushing it's septic system.


Odd how Truly can see these events and understand there is "something else" going on, but overlooked the written autobiographies, past associations with terrorists, communists, and Marxists, and mentoring by racist pastors of Barak Hussein Obama (his muslim name) and still vote for him and defend him tooth and nail.

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Posted by Dale Young on 01-06-2011 11:00 PM:

Didn't they used to keep birds in mines to warn them of gas. Bird drops dead you get out. Guess they die real easy from gas (before we do ). I kinda go along with some kind of quake maybe causing a gas seepage, maybe even coming up thru a river bottom which might get certain kinds of fish. Might not birds fly into a gas concentration floating around above ground. Seems like I heard of a minor quake about that time around Indiana maybe. Just some guess's.


Posted by Virgil on 01-07-2011 01:01 AM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dale Young
Didn't they used to keep birds in mines to warn them of gas. Bird drops dead you get out. Guess they die real easy from gas (before we do ). I kinda go along with some kind of quake maybe causing a gas seepage, maybe even coming up thru a river bottom which might get certain kinds of fish. Might not birds fly into a gas concentration floating around above ground. Seems like I heard of a minor quake about that time around Indiana maybe. Just some guess's. [/QUOTE

I think you may be on to something Dale. I know they have already proven that enough gas can come up through the ground in places to stall an airplane engine in flight. Doesn't seemed to far fetched to think that gas coming out of the earth could have brought the birds down.

Still seems a little odd to me that it has happened in three states though. I got my money on it being some kind of strange bird disease.

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Posted by hotshot630 on 01-07-2011 01:39 AM:

I know Smokey can blow the top out of a tree?

But I didn't know he was a bird dog to? Hehehe ! Com'on man, Sounds to me like someone killed a bunch of birds so they can get some money out of the deal to do some scientific research, anyone ever watch Whale Watchers? The fishing boats carry an ultrasonic device that will knock a chopper down. What would that do to a flock of birds? It could have been some terriost group trying something out to try to use on us, Our trusty Gov. Won't tell any thing like this until the aftermath. They won't warn the public they don't want us good ol' Southern Boys to gettin itchyLol!

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Posted by cripple creek on 01-07-2011 01:44 AM:

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Posted by StanleyWagner on 01-07-2011 01:47 AM:

Fish

2 million dead fish in Maryland's Chesapeake Bay.


Posted by branchvillekell on 01-07-2011 01:36 PM:

thousands of crabs dead in kent england, hundreds of turtle doves dead in italy, fish die offs in the thousands in new zealand and brazil.

this is all in the last week, this is really getting weird. and that's not the whole list.


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