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Posted by Matt Mays on 10-05-2010 03:54 AM:

Beagles vs Coonhounds

Looking at the final four of the Beagle World Championship i notice there are two 1y/o and two 2y/o.... My question is do the beagle seem to start and finish earlier than coonhound? I've never messed with beagles and was just curious

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Posted by Lakeland Kennel on 10-05-2010 12:07 PM:

I have Champion beagles as well as Champion coon hounds, so I feel qualified to answer your question. Yes, beagles are much easier to train tham coon hounds. And, they mature quicker. Basically, all a beagle has to learn is how to hunt and how to run a track. A coon hound has to do these things plus tree and stay treed, which is much more difficult.

Breeding plays a big role in how early beagles and coon hounds start. Some folks breed for early starters. Intelligence is another big factor. And, the guy training the dogs is a factor.

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Posted by jackbob42 on 10-05-2010 01:24 PM:

Yup , because it comes more natural to them.
It comes from years and years of breeding rabbit dog to rabbit dog.
It's a whole lot easier to make excuses for a dog when you're hunting them at night.
Hunting in the daylight , they either do it or they don't.
Heck , even most bird dog pups make a bird dog of some kind.

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Posted by perry co cooner on 10-05-2010 01:28 PM:

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Originally posted by jackbob42
Yup , because it comes more natural to them.
It comes from years and years of breeding rabbit dog to rabbit dog.
It's a whole lot easier to make excuses for a dog when you're hunting them at night.
Hunting in the daylight , they either do it or they don't.
Heck , even most bird dog pups make a bird dog of some kind.

I agree about it being much easier to know exactly what a beagle is doing because of daylight also most chases circle within hearing. I've never seen a beagle that wouldn't at least run a rabbit........some not as good as others of course but all I have ever owned could at least run them.

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Posted by barryg35 on 10-05-2010 02:24 PM:

matt our rabbit dogs (beagles) are very easy to start. like some said above with good breeding its almost natural to them. i've got one here i took to the corner beagle club 3 times and she was running rabbits like she was on fire. i've never really had to "train" one.

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Posted by wvhoundsman on 10-05-2010 02:39 PM:

i have beagles, foxhounds and coondawgs and comp hunt them all and hands down foxhounds and beagles are easier to to train.

Posted by Casey_Lee on 10-05-2010 05:16 PM:

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Originally posted by jackbob42
Yup , because it comes more natural to them.
It comes from years and years of breeding rabbit dog to rabbit dog.
It's a whole lot easier to make excuses for a dog when you're hunting them at night.
Hunting in the daylight , they either do it or they don't.
Heck , even most bird dog pups make a bird dog of some kind.

You can also factor in that a lot of beagle guys hunt in a larger pack or groups than coon hunters do.....that alone will cover the faults of the weaker links. Of course there are the guys who do hunt theirs alone and know more about their beagles just like their are some coon hunters who know more about their hounds because they hunt them alone.

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Posted by barryg35 on 10-05-2010 05:49 PM:

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Originally posted by Casey_Lee
You can also factor in that a lot of beagle guys hunt in a larger pack or groups than coon hunters do.....that alone will cover the faults of the weaker links. Of course there are the guys who do hunt theirs alone and know more about their beagles just like their are some coon hunters who know more about their hounds because they hunt them alone.

thats very true. we always "pack" hunt our beagles. we do not comp hunt them so there isnt a need to single them out. just like with our deer dogs. we have "jump" dogs and those that will smoke a track once it gets going.

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Posted by rabbitman85 on 10-05-2010 11:12 PM:

From my experience beagles are much easier and faster. But on the other hand they are alot harder to break off trash, mainly deer. Every beagle I have ever had would at one point run a deer and it is tuff to break them. All the coonhounds ive had, ive never really had a problem with deer just possums but id beat em off a couple of possum trees and shoot a few coons out and they would be ok. Im not sayin there aint exeptions in both breeds. Ive seen beagle that absolutely have no intrest in deer, and ive seen coonhounds that would absolutely burn a deer or possum up and you couldnt break them if you wanted. Both is a breeding and bloodline thing I beleive. If a man thats an @$$ hole has a child most of the time its gonna be a @$$ hole also lol.

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 10-06-2010 12:31 AM:

beagle verses coonhound

i agree a beagle is easier to start than most hound pups but not always i had a beagle female that was a good bred female a rabbit could run right in front of her she would stand there and watch it go she was 6 months old hunted her till she was a year old gave her to a couple for a pet she just never showed any interst

Posted by Lakeland Kennel on 10-06-2010 01:10 AM:

Here is a clip of me running my beagles today. It is not great camera work and the brush hides a lot of the action. As you can tell by the video, I like fast beagles with bawl mouths. Any of my beagles could win a Bench Show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEv5MAJ8Hhc

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