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Posted by OLIVER JACKSON on 10-02-2010 02:25 AM:

World Ch Bellar's Pac-Man

Would someone post a picture and pedigree?

Was he a Finely River bred dog?

What was he like?

Did he reproduce well?

Who was his best reproducing son?

With all the talk of frozen semen and dogs of the past, how would Pac-Man stack up today?

Posted by Buckshot on 10-02-2010 03:03 AM:

Posted by DR EVIL on 10-02-2010 03:28 AM:

PAC MAN

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Posted by jculler8 on 10-02-2010 05:17 AM:

I once heard that one of Pac Man's close relatives was the one doing all of the reproducing? Any truth to this?

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Posted by coch20 on 10-02-2010 05:53 AM:

All I can tell you is pacman was on the all time re producers list. The real questing is would bellar release any pacman semen or striker semen?

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Posted by OLIVER JACKSON on 10-02-2010 03:35 PM:

Thanks for the pictures and old stud ads. He sure had an impressive win record! Does anyone have is reproducing numbers? What style of dog was he? I am guessing extra fast and quick. Was Harry's Hawk a grandpup of Pac-Man?

Posted by Sheriff Andy on 10-02-2010 07:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by coch20
All I can tell you is pacman was on the all time re producers list. The real questing is would bellar release any pacman semen or striker semen?

I know a man who claims he owns Pac man semen...

question... who was BOZO's daddy???????

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Posted by OLIVER JACKSON on 10-02-2010 08:59 PM:

Which Bozo?

Posted by warn on 10-02-2010 09:03 PM:

the original hickory nut harry if you mean hardwood bozo

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Posted by henkeanthony on 10-03-2010 02:02 AM:

The most recent papers I have say he has 2,597 pups, 54 GN, and 143 NC. That would be about 7.58%.

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Posted by Snuff_52 on 10-03-2010 04:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by OLIVER JACKSON
What style of dog was he? I am guessing extra fast and quick.

TREED ALOT OF COONS. HE WAS ABOVE AVERAGE FAST. NOW SOME WILL TRY TO MAKE HIM OUT TO HAVE BEEN FREAKISHLY FAST BUT HE WASNT. DRIFTED TRACKS LIKE A GOOD FOXHOUND. HE WAS A BIG HUNTING DOG AND WOULD HAVE ALOT OF COONS OFF TO HIMSELF. HARD TO BEAT A DOG THAT IS GETTING ALL OF HIS AND A GOOD MANY, IF NOT ALL OF YOURS. DOG NEEDED TO BE GRITTY TO STAY WITH PAC. YOU WERENT GOING TO GET THERE IN TIME TO SCRATCH HIM. PAC COULD CUT ONE UP AND HAVE IT OVER WITH BEFORE MOST KNEW WHAT HAPPENED. IF YOUR DOG WASNT BY ITSELF ALL NIGHT AND DIDNT HAVE A STRONG DOSE OF "STAYING POWER," YOU WERE IN FOR A LONG NIGHT OF HEARING YOUR DOG COME ON TREES JUST LONG ENOUGH FOR YOU TO TREE HIM, THEN AFTER TAKING YOUR MINUS SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD WONDERING WHERE THE HELL HE WENT OFF TO?

Posted by OLIVER JACKSON on 10-03-2010 09:43 PM:

I was a real winner and reproducer

Posted by Sheriff Andy on 10-04-2010 02:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by warn
the original hickory nut harry if you mean hardwood bozo

yeah thanks

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Posted by Carolina Style on 10-04-2010 04:56 AM:

Seen him run all through the marsh one night many moons ago when Mr. Calvin Smith was still with us. Left several trees and ended up with his pads cut up. Didnt look good but I cant judge him as that was the only time I seen him go. I only relate what I've seen with my own 2 eyes

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Posted by edwardfasteddy on 10-05-2017 01:22 PM:

Anyone else hunted with PAC-MAN?

Posted by Larry Hall on 10-05-2017 02:11 PM:

I hunted with Pac Man a couple times.. Not impressed at all..

Trashy, wild running SOB, but would end up on a coon.. Good mouth and would strike on literally anything.. Nice looking hound with great handlers..

Stryker to me was a coon dog, hunted with him twice and he flat wore out both casts.. I had a pretty good dog and Paul the man who owned Swamp Rooster was in one if my memory is correct.

Posted by John Carroll on 10-05-2017 02:31 PM:

I had one out of PacMan.

He was a big hunting, trashy sucker with incredible heart and drive.

Extremely athletic.

Rough haired.

He was making quite a coon treer but got mean and wound up getting what I call early retirement.

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Posted by Daniel Fitzko on 10-05-2017 03:06 PM:

Thunder goes back to Pac-Man

Nitech ch pr Fitzko's cracklin Thunder goes back to Pac-Man and he is the most honest strike and tree dog and accurate dog I have ever owned. He is 5 and is one more win away from being Grand and 2 away on the bench from being dual. I have not been pushing him hard in the hunts until this year where in january he got his first win towards grand and with the time and funds allowed he has went ahead and captured his other three wins. My goal now is to have him dual grand by the end of the year. He is a belly up tree dog, not ill in any way. I have to admit if no coons moving, he will tree a opossum but theirs not too many out there that want. That's the only off game that he messes with. He is a pleasure to hunt. Pac-man was big when I was growing up that is why I looked for this breeding. I'm planning on adding him to the stud page next year and pay him up for performance. I have a female directly out of insain cain that I plan on breeding next year.

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Posted by edwardfasteddy on 10-05-2017 03:18 PM:

Ya, All the trash runners, tree fighters, and all that crap, Please remember they had a mother that had a lot to do with what they did, most of the time more then the Sire,,,, JMO

Posted by wjoey on 10-05-2017 05:10 PM:

I drew pac a bunch and seen him under a bunch of coons , I seen him tree them right out of the truck and a long ways too, I heard it get rough and I saw him tree with dogs , I heard him run all junk too he was just a dog but good at winning and treeing coons

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Posted by edwardfasteddy on 10-05-2017 09:01 PM:

Has anyone ever hunted with Pac and Thousand Dollar Bill and or Melt Down and how would Pac do in a cast with them?

Posted by swamp1 on 10-06-2017 01:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by edwardfasteddy
Has anyone ever hunted with Pac and Thousand Dollar Bill and or Melt Down and how would Pac do in a cast with them?

never hunted with none of them but my friend hunted PAC. Going by his memory I'd venture to say in a cast with Bill he would win more than he lost. Now meltdown is whole different animal.according to breeders its harder to beat automatic dogs sitting under a coon along with grit to stay treed no matter what,might be something else leaving. PAC would probably have nose advantage and more open mouthed dog on track. Probably about 50/50 would be ratio.

Posted by edwardfasteddy on 10-07-2017 01:44 AM:

quote:Originally posted by coch20
All I can tell you is pacman was on the all time re producers list. The real questing is would bellar release any pacman semen or striker semen?

I know a man who claims he owns Pac man semen...

question... who was BOZO's daddy???????

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Posted by edwardfasteddy on 10-07-2017 04:44 PM:

I would like to know what is known about Pac-Man semen? Lets here what hunter know about it......

Posted by Kler Kry on 10-10-2017 12:34 PM:

Pacman

I judged and guided Pacman in the 80s when the zone was out of Elkhorn, WI. It was a tough cast with NKC World Ch., Pacman, Timber Jack and a walker female out of Ia. Treed 7 coon if I remember right and Pacman was dominating the cast, but lost. Dogs were running to catch in a corn field and Tmber Jack needed first tree to win. They hit a creek, momentarily when silent, and when the first dog opened Timber Jacks handler treed him and the hunt was over. Pacman was sick and each time we lead them next to water he drank a lot. Randall Myers was handling Pac. I took pictures of Randall and Pac. I compared the picture to the one in the stud ad before when Pac was a year old and it is the same dog. I'm currently hunting Pacman dogs. Penney and Rex pups show Pacman 13 times on pedigree. Lilie and Crop show 12 times to Pacman. Someone before me did an excellent job of selecting the right individuals behind my dogs. Thanks to those responsible for that selection.

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