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Posted by rabbitman85 on 10-01-2010 02:54 AM:

ot- need help wifes car is overheatin!!!

I have been piddlin with this car for a month now. Please sombody thats a mechanic throw a bone. I have flushed the system and put two different thermostats on it and took the radiator out today and took it and had it rodded out. Still the temp fluxuates between 190 and 210 and eventually drivin it like that a couple days it will overheat big time again. Also the heat aint workin either. Is the whole system stopped up or what.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 10-01-2010 02:57 AM:

Could your belt tensioner be failing? I just replaced one on my daughter's car, it was not putting enough tension on the belt to turn the pulley on the water pump. Also, it could need a new water pump.

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Posted by intellectualist on 10-01-2010 03:13 AM:

Re: ot- need help wifes car is overheatin!!!

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitman85
I have been piddlin with this car for a month now. Please sombody thats a mechanic throw a bone. I have flushed the system and put two different thermostats on it and took the radiator out today and took it and had it rodded out. Still the temp fluxuates between 190 and 210 and eventually drivin it like that a couple days it will overheat big time again. Also the heat aint workin either. Is the whole system stopped up or what.


Well, since you have no heat, your heater core is probably stopped up. That may be fun to change!
Could be the water pump as well.


Posted by david hall on 10-01-2010 03:20 AM:

what year car make and model and engine , does it have an electric fan ??


Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 10-01-2010 03:28 AM:

Re: Re: ot- need help wifes car is overheatin!!!

quote:
Originally posted by intellectualist
Well, since you have no heat, your heater core is probably stopped up. That may be fun to change!
Could be the water pump as well.



should be anti freez leaking some where by pass the heater
core.couuld be about anything hose calipson,head gasket
etc.my truck has run 190-210 since new on the gauge
got old el camino with the temps gauge built in with
the radiator cap.


Posted by rabbitman85 on 10-01-2010 03:44 AM:

Thats what im thinkin, the whole system needs flushin out real good and the heater core is stopped up. Its a 03 grand prix gt. All the hoses are good, im not loosin any water, water pump seems to be workin fine as well.

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Posted by RRbluehound on 10-01-2010 03:51 AM:

did it have bars put in it? that stuff will plug leaks and everything else too, bad stuff

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 10-01-2010 04:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitman85
Thats what im thinkin, the whole system needs flushin out real good and the heater core is stopped up. Its a 03 grand prix gt. All the hoses are good, im not loosin any water, water pump seems to be workin fine as well.


my heater core is about out its leaking out dwn the condesation
pan with the water hard to find not leaking enough to worry
about 1/4 gallon every 2-3 mths.


Posted by BELCHER6349 on 10-01-2010 04:28 AM:

overheating

top of t-stat housing should have a air bleeder screw sound air lock


Posted by OUTFITKNL'S on 10-01-2010 04:30 AM:

Head gasket

It might be the head gasket we had one that did the same thing, so go get it pressure tested to se if it is holding pressure?

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 10-01-2010 04:38 AM:

Re: overheating

quote:
Originally posted by BELCHER6349
top of t-stat housing should have a air bleeder screw sound air lock


63-49 wouldnt be dirt car # would they


Posted by btvwnut3 on 10-01-2010 12:26 PM:

Sounds like air lock or bad head gasket to me. Dont know a whole lot about gm cars, but had a PT cruiser at work that would be fine for like 3 weeks then all of sudden then just overheat. Had a small head gasket leak.

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Posted by branchvillekell on 10-01-2010 01:10 PM:

if you can see air bubbles in the radiator when runnin, head gasket leak/ ever just pull the thermostat out and run it to see if it still overheated? heater core, have fun.
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Posted by mjones on 10-01-2010 01:21 PM:

sent pm.

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Posted by POTOMAC on 10-01-2010 01:33 PM:

you can call me if you like 571-233-5819 and i will walk you through the diagnosis. 1st ina lot of cars the thhermostadt is in the lower hoses therefore the block has to be filled seperate/2nd the reason you dont have heat is there is no coolant in the heater core.because it is the highest point in the cooling sys. so if you can bleed it out and it works for a little while than you have a headgasket leak. theyy have a co tester that checks for cos in the cooling sys. im tiired of typing call me!!!! or good luck


Posted by rabbitman85 on 10-01-2010 01:39 PM:

Thanks alot guys. Ill probably be callin you potomac, mjones. I gotta get it fixed, my wife is gettin tired of drivin my old truck lol.

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Posted by oliesmith on 10-01-2010 02:47 PM:

Is the fan runing


Posted by Huntaholic on 10-01-2010 08:34 PM:

Since its a GM product, Im assuming there are some basic similarities between pontiac and chevy. I know this is gonna sound stupid, and its GM's way of taking care of their engines when the soccer moms arent smart enough to watch the temp gauge, but try turning the AC on max with the engine running and see if your electric fans are working. Also, as crazy as that sounds, if it does overheat while shes driving it she can turn the AC on and cool the engine off. Yeah, I know, thats a slap in the face of us old school car people to turn the air on with an overheated engine, but doing so should automatically engage the fans. The only GM engines Im aware of that are "reverse cooled" are the 93-97 LT1 engines. PERHAPS yours is also though. If so, you should see two brass bleeder screws. One in the top radiator hose and another on the thermostat housing. If you have those, with the engine running at normal temps, CAREFULLY loosen those screws until only coolant seeps out with no air mixed in.
Whether or not the heater core is stopped up should have no effect on your engine cooling, however, with an engine thats running hot, typically the heater doesnt work! Cant explain that one! Hope this helps and fixes your problem. If not, I suspect a blown head gasket.

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Posted by rabbitman85 on 10-01-2010 09:06 PM:

Decided this mornin I had spent enough time playin mechanic. I took it to the radiator shop. They done some kind of test on it and said it had either a cracked head or the head gasket was leaking. Hummmmm, that sound expensive!!!!!!

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