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Posted by Richard Nethery on 07-23-2010 02:26 PM:

Over Run with Coons

This year, we are seeing more Coons than ever, but what concerns me, is that I, and several other people have been seeing Coons in the daytime.
And they dont act as skiddish as they should.
I am starting to worry about Rabies.
Yesterday afternoon, there were 4 Coons under my Deer Feeder, My Wife went to Pick Figs at her Grandfathers Farm, and there were 2 Coons under the Fig tree, I went to check on my friends property and saw another coon during the day, and at work people have been seeing Coons running aroud in the middle of the day there also.
Gardens are being completely raided.
Its like we have a Coon Population explosion.
I fear that with the increase in Population, they will start to get sick. Any thoughts on this?

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Posted by CWS on 07-23-2010 02:43 PM:

You realize there is a very simple solution to this right Richard?

Kill em! Every one you see!

I have hunted these two spot I have for 4 years now and I kill 1 coon a week and if I were to take you there tonight I would show you 3 or 4 sittting up.

People think OM MY if I kill any coon what will my dog tree? YOU HAVE GOT TO KILL THEM or they will kill themselves and it will be far more deadly then killing a few to youre dog.

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Posted by Bluedogman on 07-23-2010 02:46 PM:

You northern guys with a coon ...or three or four... in every tree, ever see disease kill them off?

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Posted by CWS on 07-23-2010 02:49 PM:

quote:
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You northern guys with a coon ...or three or four... in every tree, ever see disease kill them off?


Absolutly!

Areas that no one is allowed to hunt mostly. I turn loose where the coon are and these spots are typically not as good as the spots I hunt every other week.

The disease is called distemper, spelled.

Bluedogman, you have just as many coon in youre area! If you ever were to wise up and turn loose a spotted dog you would see it for yourself

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Posted by usmccoonhunter on 07-23-2010 02:52 PM:

i wish i had ur problem. u can bring the best dogs in the country up here in nc where i hunt and if u tree more than a coon a night ur lucky.

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 07-23-2010 03:05 PM:

CDC numbers on rabies are misleading. Richard say you walked up to one of those nice cute little buggers under the fig tree and tried to pet it. You get bit. The raccoon runs aways before you can pay it back.

Your case is now reported as a rabies case. Unfortunately, the CDC does not make the distinction between a rabies case and a confirmed case.

I don't believe rabies is as prevalent as many lead us to believe. Now the consequences of rabies are devastating to humans so caution is always good.

The disease that really knocks coon down is distemper. I used to have a ADC business and I have seen many of these coons. They usually have cloudy eyes and look disorientated and have pale gums. In the later stages they will walk in a circle over and over. At this stage they seldom have fear of people.

On the otherhand, I have seen many healthy coons that are also not afraid of people and if the food source is there day or night they will exploit it.

Bottom line is if the coons look healthy chances are 9 times out of 10 they are. I would not worry unless they start acting sick.

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Posted by dsa1 on 07-23-2010 03:06 PM:

had that prob a few years ago here in town...distemper the dnr said..out in day time an no fear of humans.

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Posted by POTOMAC on 07-23-2010 03:14 PM:

well im assuming you guys have had the oppressive heat that we have on east coast for the last month and if so i have seen more coon out here in the daytime aswell and they arent sick they are going to drink and i think just plain uncomfortable andd trying to get and find a cooler place to layup. just a thought!!!!!


Posted by Bluedogman on 07-23-2010 03:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CWS
Absolutly!

Areas that no one is allowed to hunt mostly. I turn loose where the coon are and these spots are typically not as good as the spots I hunt every other week.

The disease is called distemper, spelled.

Bluedogman, you have just as many coon in youre area! If you ever were to wise up and turn loose a spotted dog you would see it for yourself

We are over-run with spotted dogs here too but they don't tree any more than the blues. More trees yes.. but coons no. I have seen coon trapped out here years ago. Never seen distemper or anything else kill them off. The population has never been that great here.

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 07-23-2010 03:16 PM:

We usually dont have alot of Coons here, but lately they are everwhere.
We are over Run with Coons, and also with Hogs.

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Posted by Bluedogman on 07-23-2010 03:30 PM:

Richard... do you have a year-round kill season? We use to years ago but not now. Oct-Feb now.

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 07-23-2010 03:56 PM:

BludogMan,

Yes we do, Just killed one yesterday.

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Posted by e.t.sawyerjr on 07-23-2010 04:32 PM:

a lot of coons in area

in eastern nc it seems that distemper goes thru our coons ever five to six years. however one area still has not recovered in several years. this area had not had the die off on a regular basis.

the areas hit the most are where we have a good population of coon. the areas that do not a large population of coons seems not be hurt as bad as high areas. i feel you should kill more coons when you start treeing two to three to tree. if we do help control the coon population in our area mother nature will do for us. sometimes killing more coon does not help distemper hits anyway.

if we had the population of coon like there is in west ohio, they would not last a year here because of diseases.
i have not had the chance to hunt that area in many years so the population could have changed.


Posted by on 07-23-2010 10:14 PM:

Distemper

We had it roll through my area last fall and this winter pretty tough. I went to show my pup it's first coon I saw eating a deer carcass in the field, and it couldn't run away.
I used to see a LOT more coons 10 years ago than I do now. I believe it's got more to do with loss of habitat than disease though. Every farmer that had an old barn or grain site has dozed them down to farm it. There are fewer and fewer crick lines with trees, it's all getting tiled and farmed like all the old wooded up fence rows.


Posted by tx slick tree on 07-23-2010 10:44 PM:

hot as its been may have coons out lookin for a drink. this hot weather makes hogs hug water holes. if the coons are out eating dont sound like they are sick to me. i have seen coons moveing at 4 30 in the eve. i havent seen any moveing around down this way or heard of any moving in the daylight. we have had more snakes around the house this year then i have ever seen. when you go from 8 years of drought into gettin some rain aint no tellin what one is apt to see. we went from 4 years of drought into the wettest year on record back into 4 more years of drought here. alot of the trees died this year from it. so far this year we are doing good on rainfall but the heat and humidity has been a booger bear.


Posted by psiskjr on 07-24-2010 02:39 AM:

We have fewer coon now than we ever had. Even though we have 100,000 acres of timber land to hunt they are pinestrawing every dry acre they can. Hence they spray everything with herbicide and that kills all food sources that the coon used to have. No more blackberries, blueberry, low bush acorns, or anything else that coons need to survive till the acorns fall in the fall.

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Posted by FGRIMMIE on 07-24-2010 03:11 AM:

coon shortage

The coons on the Oregon coast 10 years ago were thickly and it was nothing to catch 80 to 100 a year then Distemper came along and you would see them staggering all over the place and now I would need a super grandnite ch to weed one out.It will take years for them to come back, sad case indeed....frank

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