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Posted by DJames on 06-30-2010 05:14 AM:

Tree jacking

I GOT A 15 MONTH OLD FEMALE THAT IS JACKING PRETTY BAD. HOW DO YA'LL BREAK YOUR DOGS FROM JACKING THE TREE. SHE IS PRETTY BULL HEADED. DJAMES

Posted by Dan Reuter on 06-30-2010 06:21 AM:

Quit showing it caged coon.

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Posted by DJames on 06-30-2010 08:16 AM:

AINT SHOWED HER NONE MYSELF. JUST GOT HER.

Posted by brady8687 on 06-30-2010 01:26 PM:

Leash her an step on the lead when she starts to jump

But I cant say much mine is a climber.(Mostly malberry trees)

Posted by blue blue on 06-30-2010 02:43 PM:

David

i try to be consistent with a collar as long as it dosen't hurt their treeing. I've had pretty good luck that way. I let mike shine and i never take my eves off the dog. Try to get him everytime he jumps.

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Posted by Family on 06-30-2010 02:57 PM:

We always have tied em to the tree, I've heard others do this and have luck ith it as well.

Just catch it early. Be consistent. my 2cents

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 06-30-2010 03:48 PM:

Re: David

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i try to be consistent with a collar as long as it dosen't hurt their treeing. I've had pretty good luck that way. I let mike shine and i never take my eves off the dog. Try to get him everytime he jumps.

Yep weather it is jumping or comeing off and going back I just nick them enough that they can feel it till they figure out it don't happen when there at the tree and don't happen as long as they have 2 feet on the ground. Once they figure that out the heat gets turned up a little more. Once they get use to it and in the habbit of doing it right then they will. It is a process and takes a little time but it works well and they get to tree a lot longer while you teach them to do it right.
I have a blue dog I will start on as soon as the hunting gets a little better. You need to be able to tree a couple a night for a while to change there behavior so they can rememberfrom one time to the next.

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Posted by barryg35 on 06-30-2010 04:06 PM:

well some one on this board suggested to me to tie a lock around their neck with just enuff rope so that when they jump the lock swings up and bops them on the head. i tried it, it took about 5 times bouncing off the head and he don't jump the tree anymore. i have hunted him maybe 5/6 times since and no jacking

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Posted by DJames on 06-30-2010 05:34 PM:

Thanks everyone
I been fooling with dogs all my life and never had one as stubborn about jacking the tree. She is about 35lbs soaking wet and will jump and hang on the tree like a cat. She can climb another 4 or 5 ft this way. She is a good treedog when she settles but she don't settle long til she is back in the air. I told the boy hunting her for me to try bumping her with the collar when she is in the air. Thanks again
David

Posted by trappin_girl on 06-30-2010 07:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by barryg35
well some one on this board suggested to me to tie a lock around their neck with just enuff rope so that when they jump the lock swings up and bops them on the head. i tried it, it took about 5 times bouncing off the head and he don't jump the tree anymore. i have hunted him maybe 5/6 times since and no jacking

tried it, did no good. tried swallin at them hittin them with leadstrap, shocking, nothing seemed to work, i have a dog that can jump 10 feet up into a tree. shes clumb a few trees. shes now 8 so im not gonna worry about it.

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Posted by boonetreecoon on 06-30-2010 09:36 PM:

I heard a chain a nice big logging chain couple big padlocks and hook it to em at the tree after a couple times hell quit. But to me that seems like he'd get smart and only do it when your not standing there. Same with pulling them down with the lead I had one he could jump 5 foot in the air flat footed

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 06-30-2010 11:02 PM:

tell the other 3 to get on the other side

Posted by Perry Ross on 06-30-2010 11:40 PM:

Tree jacking

Dogs are born with a certain tree style. You may change it some but I have never been able to stop one from running the tree altogether. Sure can cause alot of trouble at the tree. good luck

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Posted by BIG$BLUES on 06-30-2010 11:55 PM:

Sure a bad habbit and tough to fix

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Posted by patches9452 on 07-01-2010 12:03 AM:

shock collar breaks it while you are there... then get a lighted collar and stay back when it goes up shock it you can break it if you stay on top of it... but usually first time you go to a hunt with a tree jacker it starts all over again... it is not simple and a real pain

Posted by DJames on 07-01-2010 03:03 AM:

Here is a short video of my gyp " CRAZY" at the tree

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-01-2010 03:39 AM:

Yep I would say nick nick nick every time those back feet come off the ground. LOL
If not it will be in the tree before long.
Just turn your light off sit on a log and nick. LOL

Posted by DJames on 07-03-2010 05:17 PM:

This little female is wound tight but she did a little better the next hunt or two. Gonna see what a little bump from the collar does tonight. I know she is young but feel now is the time to try to get control. Thanks again
david

Posted by ajm on 07-03-2010 06:16 PM:

john wick's book

said theirs not much you can do to fix it. that is there treeing style.

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Posted by DJames on 07-03-2010 06:31 PM:

He may be right.
The comedian Ron White says you can't fix stupid. lol
david

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-03-2010 09:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DJames
This little female is wound tight but she did a little better the next hunt or two. Gonna see what a little bump from the collar does tonight. I know she is young but feel now is the time to try to get control. Thanks again
david

Yep this is the time to get her in the right habbit. Just don't get mad and use to hot of shock. Pet her on the ground and nick her when those back feet come up.
I did it last night on my blue pup ( 1 year old). I got a little hot and had to pet him back up to get him going again but he was staying on the ground better then. I just turned the heat down and went back to work on him.
Genitics gives them the hyper energy but it can be controlled and good habbits can be built in them. Just need to be put in early.
I have a hyper walker that I am getting started on earlier. Shen is 7 months and I am not going to let her get away with it to begin with.

Posted by Jerry West on 07-04-2010 07:34 PM:

My young Bluedog male was the worst I ever had.

I used a long choakchain with a padlock. It helped some. But he still does some before I get to the tree. A hot tree is worst of all.

I have started working him with a short chain nailed to the tree. I carry a choakchin with a snap on it, a hammer, and large staples. Just nail the chain to the tree trunk, giving him enough chain to stand up on the tree. No way he can jump. I think this is helping more than the lock on the choakchain.

All dogs are different..... LOL

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-04-2010 08:48 PM:

You should try the nicking when the back feet come off the ground. Same thing the dog gets punished when his back feet come off the ground. You just don't have to carry the hardware store and you can stand back in the dark and do it before you even go all the way to the tree.
Let the dog get use to a nick every time its back feet come off and then walk in and tie it low or just leave it off and keep on nicking but pet it as long as its feet stays on the ground.

Posted by oklared on 07-05-2010 02:29 PM:

12in piece of log chain tied to his collar, just tie one end so every time the dog jumps it slaps her in the head. Let her wear it all the time.

Posted by on 07-05-2010 02:39 PM:

Why would anyone let their dog run through the timber with a 12 inch length of any kind of chain dangling from their neck? Easiest way I can think of to get a dog hung.

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