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Posted by on 04-27-2010 07:20 PM:

My only gripe with the LED heads.......

The only thing I don't like about these LED heads is that you can't adjust the flood of the beam. In the winter with the leaves off it was no big deal. The tight spot is ok because you are looking for fur, not eyes. Now, with the leaves all on the spot is too tight for scanning the tree looking for those eyes. I like to widen the beam and use a dim light to find the coon but with these LED's, you can't cover the tree with a wide beam. I think if they ever get the flood adjustable they will be perfect.

Posted by barryg35 on 04-27-2010 07:34 PM:

i agree with you. my only complaint is you can adjust the beam. brightness and dimming feature on the g2 is great!

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Posted by Dwils on 04-27-2010 08:50 PM:

JiM.

i shined my G2 at the dogs the other night and the coon looked plain as day at me 20 ft up the tree and i was shining the dogs walking to them.

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Posted by Joey Donelson on 04-27-2010 09:01 PM:

Jim, that's what I was concerned about & why I held off until the leaves came out. I like a lot of light & wide beam during the summer because I'm subject to stumbling over everything. I've had the led pro-head for over a year now & even though it doesn't have a tight spot on it I'm pleased enough with it that I guess I'll just stick with it.

Posted by john Duemmer on 04-27-2010 09:51 PM:

Wondering if a pop cover with a domed lense would do the trick?

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Posted by Maniac on 04-27-2010 09:59 PM:

Re: My only gripe with the LED heads.......

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Originally posted by JiM
The only thing I don't like about these LED heads is that you can't adjust the flood of the beam. In the winter with the leaves off it was no big deal. The tight spot is ok because you are looking for fur, not eyes. Now, with the leaves all on the spot is too tight for scanning the tree looking for those eyes. I like to widen the beam and use a dim light to find the coon but with these LED's, you can't cover the tree with a wide beam. I think if they ever get the flood adjustable they will be perfect.

turn it down! they will look. come go with me maybe you need a new pare of glasses.

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Posted by Jim Hill on 04-27-2010 10:26 PM:

love my new LED light with the leafs on, just have to get used to it is all,diff kindof light , mine also has a strobe light on it which works pretty good this time a year

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Posted by honalieh on 04-28-2010 05:12 AM:

LED Lights

If I can't find the coon, it's VERY RARELY a light problem. It's ALMOST ALWAYS a dog problem!

I never blame the light for me not seeing a coon. I blame the dog. The light is seldom the problem!

The more accurate the dog is, the more effective your light will be (LED or not).

Posted by Steve Raleigh on 04-28-2010 07:55 PM:

Re: LED Lights

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If I can't find the coon, it's VERY RARELY a light problem. It's ALMOST ALWAYS a dog problem!

I never blame the light for me not seeing a coon. I blame the dog. The light is seldom the problem!

The more accurate the dog is, the more effective your light will be (LED or not).

I agree 100%

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Posted by on 04-28-2010 10:00 PM:

You guys crack me up. You never miss any opportunity to say "if you had enough dog.....blah, blah, blah.
Don't worry about my dogs getting plussed for those coons, if they are there, they will get plussed. My comment was that I think these LED's would be greatly improved if you could adjust the flood like you can with a 5100 bulb head. Then they would be about perfect.

Posted by Maniac on 04-28-2010 10:02 PM:

Re: Re: My only gripe with the LED heads.......

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Originally posted by Maniac
turn it down! they will look. come go with me maybe you need a new pare of glasses.

Posted by Jim Hill on 04-28-2010 10:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
You guys crack me up. You never miss any opportunity to say "if you had enough dog.....blah, blah, blah.
Don't worry about my dogs getting plussed for those coons, if they are there, they will get plussed. My comment was that I think these LED's would be greatly improved if you could adjust the flood like you can with a 5100 bulb head. Then they would be about perfect.

jim the first LED light builder that can fig out how to make there led flood like a old wheat light will make more money then any of the other ones, i know ill have at least 2 of them

Posted by GA DAWG on 04-28-2010 11:09 PM:

Ya'll northerners must shine em different than us southern folk..I seen it before! I've never had to widen the beam to find a coon..Maybe thats why my dogs always a slick treeing

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Posted by barryg35 on 04-29-2010 12:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
You guys crack me up. You never miss any opportunity to say "if you had enough dog.....blah, blah, blah.
Don't worry about my dogs getting plussed for those coons, if they are there, they will get plussed. My comment was that I think these LED's would be greatly improved if you could adjust the flood like you can with a 5100 bulb head. Then they would be about perfect.

yup

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Posted by Virgil on 04-29-2010 01:17 AM:

LED PRO HEAD

Any of you guys complaining about the beam using the LED Pro Head? I think the beam is perfect on those

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Posted by Maniac on 04-29-2010 01:18 AM:

Re: LED PRO HEAD

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Any of you guys complaining about the beam using the LED Pro Head? I think the beam is perfect on those

its to wide for me and the g2 is brighter.

i still own my pro head. but i use my g2 i like it alot better

Posted by Chiggers on 04-29-2010 01:25 AM:

Maybe my dog just misses when I use my LED, but I will use my LED for a couple nights and not find any coons, break my old light out and find most of them. I love it but if my luck dont change with it, its going in the river.

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Posted by Maniac on 04-29-2010 01:28 AM:

made 5 trees last nite and seen all 5 with my g2.

someone must need some glasses

Posted by on 04-29-2010 04:03 AM:

Re: My only gripe with the LED heads.......

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
The only thing I don't like about these LED heads is that you can't adjust the flood of the beam. In the winter with the leaves off it was no big deal. The tight spot is ok because you are looking for fur, not eyes. Now, with the leaves all on the spot is too tight for scanning the tree looking for those eyes. I like to widen the beam and use a dim light to find the coon but with these LED's, you can't cover the tree with a wide beam. I think if they ever get the flood adjustable they will be perfect.

I have heard this before Jim and I don't understand it. The Led I use has a lot of ambient light with a spot in the middle like most of them. That ambient light will shine eyes in a much larger radius than my 5100 head will. Try shining at your dogs eye and slowly move the spot away and watch how far to the side you can pick up eye shine. I don't see a need to be able to make it flood it is already flooded.

Posted by Iowa curhunter on 04-29-2010 05:05 PM:

I use a tech 1 head that has a very tight spot. My crossbred dogs are treeing with 95% accuracy and no problems finding the coon yet, and my light isn't as bright as the high side of a 21 volt. If you're not finding the coon it's probably not the lights fault.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 04-29-2010 05:51 PM:

I have the Bright Eyes White Lightening. It is the best of both worlds. It is wide and bright. On high you can ligh up a whole tree or field. On low you still cover most of the tree with a dim light. I don't know what burn time is but I have never ran out on long nights useing it on high a lot...............The only down side I see about it is the weight is a little more..............Oh they will look at it on bright too. I have had several do it. I don't try to get them to though becouse I can usualy find the fur faster if I can get around the tree.......If not I turn it down and squal.........

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Posted by bigdavidbeebe on 05-05-2010 10:10 PM:

try the feather lite

It throws a nice big spot with large flood ring its not the real tight spot light kinda led head.

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Posted by redtide on 05-06-2010 08:19 PM:

seeing the coon

You know, both the dog AND the handler (actually majority of the handlers) have to find the coon.....So you need enough dog, enough light, and enough eyesight (although there are some who call 'em blind if you know what I mean).

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Posted by GA DAWG on 05-07-2010 11:19 PM:

Jim I found the answer..Its the blazer round head..It dont hold as tight a spot..

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Posted by on 05-07-2010 11:58 PM:

Well for me, the answer would not be tight or wide spot, the answer is ADJUSTABLE spot. But until they figure out how to make'em, I'm purty happy with my G2.

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