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Posted by Blackout on 04-08-2010 02:16 PM:

simple ?

is turkey considered off game?


Posted by treberta on 04-08-2010 02:24 PM:

Depends if the dog just falls treed on a turkey or if it runs a track then has a turkey up the tree.


Posted by Josh Farnsworth on 04-08-2010 02:25 PM:

Another simple question "Are they coon-turkey dogs?".

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Posted by Blackout on 04-08-2010 02:32 PM:

if ur in a nt or grnt cast is that dog minused


Posted by treberta on 04-08-2010 02:38 PM:

Like I said it depends if the dog ran a track to the tree with the turkey up it or just fell treed on it.


If there is no nests or holes then yes you could be scratched. I'm a firm believer that some dogs tree by sight. If a turkey is all that is up the tree then obviously the dog is treeing it.


Posted by Rip on 04-08-2010 02:52 PM:

Turkey in a tree is NOT considered off game per the Advisor no matter what.

If it were bayed on the ground such as livestock turkey then yes, but Todd has ruled that a turkey in a tree is not considered off game.

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Posted by treberta on 04-08-2010 02:59 PM:

I seemed to remember something on here about this and I do remember reading how a dog is not scratched for a turkey in the tree, luckally I have never had this happen. Also I have never seen a turkey stay up in a tree that a dog or a light was under.


Posted by ronald schultz on 04-08-2010 03:35 PM:

according to advisor tree with turkey is not minus/scratch

i dont agree, if you can plus a layup with a coon then you should be able to minus/scratch a tree happy dog with an obvious turkey and no coon or hole!!! there's nothing complicated or confusing about what happened!!!


Posted by Rip on 04-08-2010 03:53 PM:

Maybe, but the logic used in the advisor was that the turkey flew into the tree so it is not off game.

That's UKC's official interpretation.

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Posted by Dale Young on 04-08-2010 04:30 PM:

I hear this second hand but a cast treed on a den with no coon seen and 3 turkeys in the tree last weekend . I think there was a big discusion at the club house. My thoughts when I hear about it was if a turkey is off game they would be minus or scratched. If it isn't off game it would be circle. I didn't hear enough about it to know if they trailed in or just fell treed like a lay up. Of course there could have been scent on the ground from scratching around before they went up for the night, also may have been a coon in the hole but the way I've hear it you have to score what you see.


Posted by treberta on 04-08-2010 04:44 PM:

Dale, here is the way it is scored.

Dogs declared struck and treed. A turkey is up the tree and there is no hole and no coon, you ignore the fact that there is a turkey up the tree.

The tree would be sccored as a slick tree.

Now say the tree was a den, again you would ignore the turkey but the dog would be circled due to the hole. Hope this helps, I don't quite agree with it but that's the way it is.


Posted by CSnowgren on 04-08-2010 05:06 PM:

This is hilarious! Between this thread and the possum rescue society thread, I know that a good laugh is never too far away!

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Posted by treberta on 04-08-2010 05:20 PM:

Cs, it may be hilarous but it's just the way it is.


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