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Posted by ELMO OVERTON on 10-20-2004 06:43 PM:

Uchtman lovers.

What is your best cross on the Uchtman dogs.

Let me see there is the
Albert/Ranger line
Scout/ Hawk line
Uchtman Ben or Lighting line
Uchtman Bill line

Let me see that should cover Gary, Lonnie,Wilbern, and Doyle.

Also what type of hunting traits have you seen in them?

Posted by sheepster on 10-20-2004 06:59 PM:

My dog and her sire( buddies dog) are Heavy Hawk and scout bred!!!!!!!!!!!! She aint perfect but she's done enough to earn her a home here till she dies.

Posted by jimmie legrand on 10-20-2004 09:52 PM:

i hunt black dawgs now but i did hunt some blues some yrs back and liked what i seen out of scout/hawk females i hunted 4 in all two of them you could put them on the top of the dawg box drive down the old dirt roads and they would strike good the other 2 i never tried it with but they were very good classy hounds good nose ,looks and brains they didnt dick around with a track when they treed if it took ya 30 minutes or 3hrs to get to them they would be their. my wife loves blueticks and im thinkin about gettin her one when i do it will be a utchman bred bluetick

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Posted by Blacklabel on 10-21-2004 06:05 PM:

i had a male dog that was a grandson to scout and he was a rig dog, road hunting, and COLD NOSE bawl mouth that was to die for, and he was hit by a truck in his prime, so now i got RED DOGS

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Posted by CX3 on 10-22-2004 02:10 AM:

Blacklabel, honestly man, I dont think you are making a bad career move.

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Posted by Blacklabel on 10-22-2004 03:07 AM:

well we'll see how it goes, i liked my first pup, but sold him to Josh Sterkins, so well see what this one does that i got now

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Posted by John Carroll on 10-26-2004 12:07 AM:

I picked the Albert/Ranger line because I have had more experience with them.

Actually, I think a mix of the Ranger and Hawk blood has proven to be ideal. The best cross on old Hawk was probably the Belle female of Gary's, who was a littermate sister to Ranger IV.

I have a Nt. Ch. female out of Albert and my old Belle gyp that is a dandy, and I am going to breed her the next time she comes in.

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Posted by Ken Grant on 10-26-2004 01:46 AM:

I think the most overlooked is the Bill/Super Glue. From what I have seen Bill was not used enough. I had a grandpup to him that was awesome. I voted for Hawk and Scout but I think there are alot of nice hounds that go back to Bill and Super Glue.

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Posted by John Carroll on 10-26-2004 04:25 AM:

Gary believes that had Super Glue lived a normal life span, he would have been the best reproducing Blue dog ever.

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Posted by willscrk on 10-28-2004 01:25 AM:

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Gary believes that had Super Glue lived a normal life span, he would have been the best reproducing Blue dog ever.

hi john,what were some of the better dogs off super glue? how are they different from the hawk stuff?

by the way i seen a pic of albert 3 he is sure a good looker.do you know anything about him?

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Posted by John Carroll on 10-28-2004 04:50 AM:

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Originally posted by willscrk
hi john,what were some of the better dogs off super glue? how are they different from the hawk stuff?

by the way i seen a pic of albert 3 he is sure a good looker.do you know anything about him?

Doyle Uchtman's Bill dog was one of the better known dogs out of Super Glue. he sired very few pups, and died very young.

Gary just said that it seemed to him that the Super Glue pups seemed to be a cut above in intelligence and ability...just his opinion.

Albert III is a fine looking dog, a super tree dog who was naturally straight. Never seemed to have any interest in off game. He has a huge mouth, and is a hard hunting dog.

He is a little tight on the ground.

His sire, Albert II died young, but was one of a phenomenal litter. They weren't well known dogs, but were coon dogs with inbelievable mouths. Their mother, Nt. Ch. Coney River Blue Rose, was out of Ranger V and a daughter of Ranger II. She had the best mouth I ever heard on a female, and maybe the best mouth I ever heard period. She was a top hound in every department.

His mother, old Robin, was a littermate sister to Rambo II.

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Posted by Jerrod Lawrence on 10-28-2004 04:29 PM:

Albert III

Albert III looked real good the night I went with him. He's also reproducing some dandy pups. The litter I raised are all good lookers, and act very smart. They would go crazy over a caged coon at a very young age. They are just five months old, and the three I kept are already treeing with my old dog. I don't think you can go wrong with Albert III.

Posted by John Carroll on 10-28-2004 06:56 PM:

I've got a pup out of Albert III here that is a pretty dude, and smart as a tack.

The older I get, the more important a dog's intelligence is to me. I can't stand to work with those meatheads.

Albert III is an intelligent dog, and he seems to be throwing it.

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Posted by Jerrod Lawrence on 10-28-2004 08:49 PM:

Mr. Carroll,
What female is your Albert III pup out of? I was just wondering, because Gary got two pups out of the litter that I raised and I thought that it might be one of them. Thanks.

Posted by John Carroll on 10-28-2004 10:02 PM:

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Originally posted by Jerrod Lawrence
Mr. Carroll,
What female is your Albert III pup out of? I was just wondering, because Gary got two pups out of the litter that I raised and I thought that it might be one of them. Thanks.

My pup is out of a female called Ruby, out of old Albert and a Chief daughter.

The pup is actually Gary's. I had a sister to him, but she died.

Ruby belongs to a man named Quinton. I can't recall his last name.

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Posted by Jerrod Lawrence on 10-29-2004 04:04 AM:

Thanks Mr. Carroll. I was just wondering. My female's name is Jane and she is Hawk and Rebel bred. Last I knew, Gary still had the two he got from me. All of them out of this litter that I have seen lately are looking real good. One of my females ran and treed real good with her mama tonight, so I am hoping she will make me a good one.

Posted by John Carroll on 10-29-2004 04:53 AM:

Great!

Do yours have good mouths?

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Posted by Jerrod Lawrence on 10-30-2004 08:41 PM:

Two of mine have real good bawl mouths. The little gyp that is treeing is kind of choppy on track, but hopefully this will change. All of the other ones that I have seen have good mouths though.

Posted by John Carroll on 10-31-2004 04:03 AM:

Albert III has been sold to Charles Dawson, Gary told me today.

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Posted by Jerrod Lawrence on 10-31-2004 04:11 AM:

Mr. Carroll,
Do you know where Mr. Dawson lives? I was wondering, because I plan on breeding my female back to Albert III when she comes back in. Thanks.

Posted by John Carroll on 10-31-2004 04:58 AM:

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Originally posted by Jerrod Lawrence
Mr. Carroll,
Do you know where Mr. Dawson lives? I was wondering, because I plan on breeding my female back to Albert III when she comes back in. Thanks.

I'm not sure. You ought to go hunting with the Duke dog Gary bought recently. He likes him better than Albert III.

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Posted by blue bandit on 10-31-2004 03:42 PM:

Charles Dawson lives in AL.

Posted by coonbone on 10-31-2004 05:43 PM:

What's the Duke dog out of that Gary bought?

Posted by John Carroll on 10-31-2004 06:13 PM:

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What's the Duke dog out of that Gary bought?

He is out of old Albert and a Chief bred female. I haven't hunted with him yet, but he is a good looking hound.

I have talked to several guys who have seen him go, who don't own a hair on him, and they have said he is super nice.

Gary says he sounds almost exactly like RangerIV on the tree.

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Posted by Rob Ellett on 10-31-2004 07:25 PM:

I cant vote on this thread

mine are most of these combined,lOL.
Sounds like a nice dog Gary bought.

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