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Posted by josh on 01-13-2010 09:05 PM:

Single Registration?

What exactly is the deal?

Can you knowingly single register crossbreds?

Could a person breed a walker to a collie and single register the pups that met breed standards and treed coon?

Posted by V. Cannon on 01-13-2010 09:33 PM:

Josh, that sounds like they would make great prospects for the english breed, the best english GR NT I ever hunted with was bred that way.

Posted by josh on 01-13-2010 09:35 PM:

Single Registration is the procedure by which a purebred dog, not born in a UKC registered litter, may be registered with United Kennel Club, Inc. Dogs must be registered with a UKC acknowledged registry, and show proof of such by submitting a copy of the Registration Certificate from that registry.

This is what I found on UKC website...

Hmmmmm, Im still wondering how a crossbred gets single registered?

Posted by wildbill on 01-13-2010 09:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
Single Registration is the procedure by which a purebred dog, not born in a UKC registered litter, may be registered with United Kennel Club, Inc. Dogs must be registered with a UKC acknowledged registry, and show proof of such by submitting a copy of the Registration Certificate from that registry.

This is what I found on UKC website...

Hmmmmm, Im still wondering how a crossbred gets single registered?

i'd guess if the above was required on all single reg. dogs and no dna done ,,more people would go back to the old paper swaping,,by saying a dog was out of old so and so without dna done,,all they would to do is dig out a set of papers on ol sam and queen and you got a single reg puppys....

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Posted by Buckshot on 01-13-2010 09:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
Single Registration is the procedure by which a purebred dog, not born in a UKC registered litter, may be registered with United Kennel Club, Inc. Dogs must be registered with a UKC acknowledged registry, and show proof of such by submitting a copy of the Registration Certificate from that registry.

This is what I found on UKC website...

Hmmmmm, Im still wondering how a crossbred gets single registered?

I believe your looking at the policy for non coonhound breeds such as Labs, Yorkies, and etc.

The single registration for coonhounds is totally different from the one you posted.

Yes, if a cossbreed dog can pass the single registation requirements of the beed assoc. rules it is being single registered in, then it wil be single registered as the breed with full breeding rights.

Each coonhound breed assoc. has their own rules and requirments concerning single registration.

Go to this page and look up each coonhound breed as it shows single registration info:

http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/...es/LrnBreedInfo

Posted by John D on 01-13-2010 10:27 PM:

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Originally posted by Buckshot
Go to this page and look up each coonhound breed as it shows single registration info:

http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/...es/LrnBreedInfo

Thats the breed standards, not single registration requirements.

The single registration requirements for coonhounds are in addition to, and more strict than the breed standards. The single registration are generally decided by the UKC approved breed association.

For example, one of the more famous requirements pertaining only to single registration is that the dog must go hunting, run and tree a coon by itself in the presence of an inspector. Here is a document that has been used by B&T breed inspectors in the past:

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Posted by Buckshot on 01-13-2010 10:59 PM:

Hey John, like I said, if you go to that link, click on one of the coonhound breeds, it list single registration info.........Just like I stated..............I never stated it listed single registration requirements, I said it listed single registration info........And I will show it does.

Perhaps you might want to put on your reading glasses.

Here is an example -- B&T Coonhound

And here is what the info list when you click on it.

So like I said, it gives single registration info......did it not?

Posted by xforce6 on 01-13-2010 11:20 PM:

you are correct buckshot

Cross breeds such as the one stated will not be single registered single registration is for pure bred dogs that are not registered like if you had a neighbor that had two really goo hunting walkers and neither were registered and you bought a pup well you get him registered with the walker association and pay the fees they will then decide if it looks to be a full blooded walker and register it with ukc but only after it meets there requirements

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Posted by John D on 01-14-2010 01:32 AM:

Re: Single Registration?

Josh was asking for more than a contact person, I believe. The info. you searched out is outdated, anyway. Its for 2009.

Don't get all worked up about it. Some things you just can't find out or know by pecking away at a computer.

Now, back to the subject...

quote:
Originally posted by josh
What exactly is the deal?

Can you knowingly single register crossbreds?

Could a person breed a walker to a collie and single register the pups that met breed standards and treed coon?

For B&T's you can knowingly register crossbreeds. They have to meet the "looks" and performance requirements and as you can imagine there are borderline cases that can go either way. Some other factors can come into play, then.

I know of a dog that is 15/16 bluetick and 1/16 some kind of cur and he was not allowed to be registered due to a bluetick patch about the size of the palm of your hand, on his chest. Otherwise he looks and acts as much like a B&T as any.

I'd say Walker x Collie could be registered if it met the Walker or English requirements.

Remember a dog by the name of Owens Little Frank that won the Purina award many years ago? He was registered as an English but looked more like....something else.

Posted by josh on 01-14-2010 02:23 AM:

Thanks John, I think I understand it better now.

Posted by Buckshot on 01-14-2010 02:24 AM:

John, the reason UKC provides the link for single registration on those breed pages is help provide the customer with the contact info................Granted 2009 ended 13 days ago so normally the info will be up to date to provide the current info.

It is amazing what you can find by pecking away on a computer.....just like the breed pages provide the registration info and who to contact concerning single registration ----- since UKC does not handle the single registration as that is done by the breed assocations, they give you who to contact to get'r done..............especially since each breed assoc. requirements are all not the same and not all are open and some only opened certain times a year.

KInda the point I posted this:

quote:

Each coonhound breed assoc. has their own rules and requirments concerning single registration.

Go to this page and look up each coonhound breed as it shows single registration info:

http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/...es/LrnBreedInfo

People can look up who to contact concerning single registration and find out what the breed assoc they are trying to register with rules are.

Posted by COALMINER28 on 03-01-2010 07:16 AM:

So what do I do if I have 1 that's outta 2 registered UKC dogs but are different breeds?...

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