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Posted by toe cutter on 01-09-2010 07:23 AM:

kennel design

i posted pics of my kennels on another site and alot of people have built them since and like them. i thought most coonhunters had seen kennels like these before. but alot aint, so i thought i would tell ya where to look if interested.

coondawgs.com
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thread title ...off ground kennels

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Posted by Craig Harris on 01-09-2010 05:06 PM:

k post it will ook at them

Posted by toe cutter on 01-09-2010 05:58 PM:

I CANT. I TRIED TO POST IT HERE

SAYS I CAN NOT POST ATTACHMENTS.

GO TO
WWW.COONDAWGS .COM

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Posted by 1deadeye on 01-09-2010 06:50 PM:

http://www.coondawgs.com/forum/view...=50&t=75840

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Posted by mossgin on 01-09-2010 07:02 PM:

here you go, TC. i built a TC Kennel right after he posted em on coondawgs and these are the best above ground setups you'll find.

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Posted by toe cutter on 01-20-2010 05:53 AM:

keeps em dry in the winter and they dont have to walk in the waste.thanks for posting the pic for me.....TC

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Posted by on 01-20-2010 02:51 PM:

seems it would be hard walkin, and hard on a dogs feet, walkin on those narrow boards with that big of a gap in between them.

Posted by Oak Ridge on 01-20-2010 03:02 PM:

Better view of the slats

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Posted by lockednks on 01-20-2010 03:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue Style
seems it would be hard walkin, and hard on a dogs feet, walkin on those narrow boards with that big of a gap in between them.

Matt, this is how I am keeping my blue dog. I put him in it at about 16 weeks with some plywood down on the slats since he was so small. He has been without the plywood for 6 months or more now and it doesn't bother him at all. I will never keep a hound in anything but one of these.

Posted by on 01-20-2010 03:50 PM:

Thanks guys, I may have to look into building one, and trying it. I would only keep a dog in one of these that was being hunted regularly, otherwise they would need more exercise than they would get in there. (imo)

Posted by Cleo on 01-20-2010 03:51 PM:

What kind of wire is that?

Very nice! I need one like this for a bitch to welp in.

Any details on building it would be greatly appreciated......

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Posted by HAWG MAN on 01-20-2010 04:02 PM:

I've got one just like it (a little bigger) that I built, but I used SST wire belting (like you used to see used for mats at the front door to school) for the floor. they are very handy, but I don't use mine for a permanent place for them to stay. Only for whelping pups or as a place to keep one that needs doctored. In the winter time it gets too cold for them to be up off the ground all the time. The cold wind blowing all the way around the box doesn't allow the body heat to stay in the box. I'd have to put a light in there during the winter.

Posted by cedarhillkennel on 01-20-2010 05:02 PM:

HOW FAR APART ARE YOUR FLOOR SLATS?

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Posted by toe cutter on 01-20-2010 09:28 PM:

ALL INFO on COONDAWGS.COM

THE ANSWER TO EVERY ?? YOU CAN COME UP WITH IS POSTED ALREADY ON
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KENNEL SECTION OFF THE BOARD INDEX. THREAD TITLED OFF GROUND KENNELS AND SOME UNDER TC CONDOS.
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FLOOR RAILS ARE 1 3/4 INCHES APART,SAME WIDTH AS A 2 X 2. OR A 2 X 4 RIPPED IN HALF.LAY THEM SIDE BY SIDE on edge so the wood grain is right for strength,PULL EM UP TIGHT AND NAIL OR SCREW EVERY OTHER ONE, THEN REMOVE THE ONES YOU DID NOT SECURE DOWN AND YOU WILL HAVE A UNIFORM SPACE BETWEEN EACH. DO BOUT 6 TO 10 AT A TIME THEN MOVE ON. FOR THE 8 FT BY 4 FOOT WALK IT TAKES 32 2 X 2'S. 8- 2 x 4's cut in half and then ripped longways in half. OR 16 2 X 2 CUT IN HALF.THE FLOOR RAILS WILL BE CLOSER TO 41 INCHES WIDE BECAUSE YOU RUN THE SIDE RAILS ON THE INSIDE OF THE LEGS. NAIL THE FRT AND REAR CROSS MEMBERS ALL THE WAY TO THE OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE LEGS.. NAIL IT TO THE FACE OF THE LEGS AND TO THE END OF THE SIDE RAILS.(INTERLOKS IT FOR STRENGTH).REMEMBER TO DRILL A PILOT HOLE IN EACH END OF THE FLOOR RAIL SO YOUR SCREW OR 16 NAIL DONT SPLIT IT. I DO NOT USE TREATED WOOD ON THE FLOOR,THE CRAP STICKS TO THE TREATED WOOD.THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS SO THE WASTE FALLS THROUGH TO THE GROUND.THE DOG HAS A CLEAN KENNEL YEAR ROUND,WETHER ITS WINTER AND YOU CAN'T CLEAN THEM OR JUST LAZY LIKE ME. THE DOG IS STILL CLEAN ,DRY AND HEALTHY.IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICS YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM SIDE RAILS ARE 10 FT LONG AND 2 FT IS LEFT STICKING OUT THE BACK FOR THE HOUSE TO BE ATTACHED.THEY DONT GOT TO BE JUST LIKE MINE TO WORK, BUT ANY MODS OR VARIATIONS DOES VOID ALL WARRANTY...LOL.
BUT SERIOUSLY, IF YOU WANT A PORCH FOR THE DOG OR WHAT EVER FEEL FREE TO IMPROVE THEM AND HAVE AT IT.THESE PICTURED OF MINE ARE ABOUT THE 4TH IMPROVED VERSION SINCE I BUILT MY FIRST ONES TOO MANY YEARS AGO..YOU MAY HAVE TO REPLACE SOME FLOOR RAILS FROM TIME TO TIME,MAYBE THE ROOF AND HINGES AND THINGS OVER THE YEARS. BUT THEY WILL LAST LONGER THEN A DOG LIVES..

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I USE ALL TREATED WOOD EXCEPT FOR FLOOR AND PLYWOOD.I USE PLYWOOD SHEATHING ITS CHEAPER PRICED.
4 -8 FOOT 4 X 4 -LEGS
2-10 FT 2 X 4-BOTTOM SIDE RAILS
6-8 FT 2 X 4 - TOP RAILS,CROSSMEMBERS FRT AND REAR.DOOR AND ROOF SUPPORTS.
8-8 FT UNTREATED 2 X 4 FOR FLOOR RAILS RIPPED, 4 -2 X 2'S OUT OF EACH OR 16 8 FT 2 X 2 CUT IN HALF.
4 X 8 5/8 TO 3/4 PLYWOOD FOR FRONT WITH DOOR.
4 X 8 PLYWOOD FOR HOUSE/PLUS USE WHATS LEFT OVER FROM FRONT AND DOOR.
4 X 8 SHEET OF 1/2 INCH PLYWOOD FOR ROOF/RUN ONE 2 X 4 DOWN THE MIDDLE ON EDGE UNDER THE ROOF SO IT BOWS IN THE MIDDLE FOR RUN OFF.
NAILS 16's and 8's.,DECK SCREWS work better.
16 FT OF 36 INCH FENCE FOR SIDES.put the side rails 34 inches apart so yo got room to attach fence.the dog will actually have about 40 inches or better from floor to roof.
4 FT PIANO HINGE - HALF FOR THE DOOR AND HALF FOR THE LIFT UP ROOF ON HOUSE.
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I DONT BUILD THE HOUSES ANYMORE,I USE THE METAL COVERED INSULATED OMISH MADE HOUSES.

wire on sides is welded rod fence or screen they use at factories for parts baskets.. chain link or heavy welded wire fence will work just fine.

used these style kennels for 37 yrs now. never had a foot or leg problem or a no excercise problem.a dog can pace just as much in one or more as they can on dirt,cement kennels or on a chain.HUNT EM BOYS,HUNT EM.

you can move them too.one nice thing about them is you can space them apart as far as you want,you dont get the face barking started with pups and stuff from the git go, like some dogs do in side by side ground kennels.if you build them right they are firm standing and do not wobble.

some dogs will piss in their house in these kennels, make it so you can feed in the dog house if you need,that will stop the in house bathroom problems WITH MOST. so make lift up roofs on your dog houses.

i do not let my females whelp pups in these kennels. i dont put dogs under 3 months old in them either.and one dog per kennel.i have seen some dogs show a higher anxiety being up off the ground causing them to pace and chew more.thats the skinny on the TC condos. THE GOOD,BAD AND UGLY. i will answer all ? you have if i know the answer or if you have a problem or ? building yours...................TC

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Posted by Cleo on 01-20-2010 09:40 PM:

You did great!!!

Now would you come down to SC and help me build mine?

Just kidding......thanks again!!!

Posted by englishpride on 01-20-2010 11:22 PM:

where did you find them dog houses and how much do they cost?

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Posted by Steffan Kichta on 01-21-2010 02:10 AM:

Off ground but a little more room.......

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Posted by on 01-21-2010 03:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Steffan Kichta
Off ground but a little more room.......

That is VERY NICE sir...but I bet it was a little pricey. If you dont mind my asking, what did that cost? Ballpark idea?

Posted by toe cutter on 01-21-2010 08:54 AM:

dog houses

quote:
Originally posted by englishpride
where did you find them dog houses and how much do they cost?

cooncreek coonhunting supply. monroe michigan 734 242 6042 bill guy.. $65 to $100 depending on size. and bill does go to trade days all over the states. they are built by the omish down around kenton ohio.

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Posted by toe cutter on 01-21-2010 09:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by HAWG MAN
I've got one just like it (a little bigger) that I built, but I used SST wire belting (like you used to see used for mats at the front door to school) for the floor. they are very handy, but I don't use mine for a permanent place for them to stay. Only for whelping pups or as a place to keep one that needs doctored. In the winter time it gets too cold for them to be up off the ground all the time. The cold wind blowing all the way around the box doesn't allow the body heat to stay in the box. I'd have to put a light in there during the winter.

i did not know it got colder in akansas then in michigan...hmmmmm.

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Posted by Lone Pine JB on 01-21-2010 01:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Steffan Kichta
Off ground but a little more room.......

Steffan, I'll take one. Just put it close to the barn so I can run electric to it. And split the runs the other way so they can both get into the building.

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Posted by Steffan Kichta on 01-21-2010 10:16 PM:

Forest, I should have split the runs the other way, but I wanted the fronts facing the house.

I have $2000-2500 wrapped up in everything.

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Posted by rmcmillan on 01-23-2010 03:20 PM:

What about the treated lumber? I have heard it will kill a dog if they chew and eat some of it.

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Posted by toe cutter on 01-24-2010 08:15 PM:

never had a problem with treated wood used on them or a dog even so much as getting sick from it.
i dont use it on the floor rails. the waste sticks to it.

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Posted by robgregory on 01-24-2010 09:49 PM:

Treated lumber

used to be treated in a form of cyanide bath.Back about 7-10 yrs. ago the government banned it.That's why a lot of municipalities tore down swing sets and etc. in public parks and re-built them with another type of material or the new type of treated lumber which is treated in a bath treated with copper.Neither of which I think is really good for any kind of animal to chew on in my opinion.But they say the new stuff is safe,so YOU make the decision.
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