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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-06-2010 08:29 PM:

How long does a sow carry there kittens?

Just wondering how long the gestation time is on coon.

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Posted by Phil Vogel on 01-06-2010 08:59 PM:

gestation period

62-65 days

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-06-2010 09:14 PM:

Re: gestation period

quote:
Originally posted by Phil Vogel
62-65 days

Ok, thank you Sir. You wouldn't kow haw many litters they raise in a year too would you?

Posted by Autumn Clements on 01-06-2010 10:13 PM:

Re: Re: gestation period

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Ok, thank you Sir. You wouldn't kow haw many litters they raise in a year too would you?

they only raise one don't they ?

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Posted by EnglishBabe on 01-06-2010 11:57 PM:

Yep, only 1 litter a year. Gestation is the same as a dog, 58-65 days.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-07-2010 12:19 AM:

Ok, thanks guys I ordered a book on them but haven't got it yet. We had them as pets when I was a kid and dad had hounds to hunt them with off and on but I never really studied them much.

Posted by wildbill on 01-07-2010 03:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by EnglishBabe
Yep, only 1 litter a year. Gestation is the same as a dog, 58-65 days.

i used to keep them and my one female would have them twice a year..but the gamewarden on one of his inspections told me if they lost there young before they were weened off that the sows would have 3 litters a yr. sometimes,,so i guess if some of them kits fell out of a tree to somebodys dogs then mother nature would have her raise some more..

i think maybe the dang yotes due the same thing,,dang things got my dogs howling this morning ,just when i got to sleeping good,,sounded like a yote pup , it within a hundred yrds of the house,they took off when i got to hollaring at them..

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-07-2010 02:01 PM:

I suspected they might have 2 a year if they were in good health. Just like a dog, if they recoop from the litter fast they come in faster. I know since our farmers started all these feeder crops our coon are getting bigger and staying in a lot better health. You allso see kittens real early and again in late summer to early fall.

Posted by Ben Crocker on 01-07-2010 02:10 PM:

I was always told they will have only one litter a year.. But with that said, was also told that they will keep recycling into heat untell they are bred or untell they catch from being bred. That is why I always figured I seen some kittens in early kill season that wasn't much bigger than a muskrat. Figured she got denned up somewhere and didn't get bred tell the weather warmed and had a late litter. Don't know, just what I have been told over the years.

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Posted by treberta on 01-07-2010 02:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ben Crocker
I was always told they will have only one litter a year.. But with that said, was also told that they will keep recycling into heat untell they are bred or untell they catch from being bred. That is why I always figured I seen some kittens in early kill season that wasn't much bigger than a muskrat. Figured she got denned up somewhere and didn't get bred tell the weather warmed and had a late litter. Don't know, just what I have been told over the years.

Youre righ on the money here.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-07-2010 02:31 PM:

I think were you live would have to do with some of it. South is longer warm weather season wich is easier on them. If there system is not under the strain of harsh weather and they have a good food source I think it would make a big differance. I don't know this just guesing.

Posted by Outback1 on 01-07-2010 04:42 PM:

how long does a sow carry her kittens?
well DUH it depends how far she is going. LOL

Posted by Okie Dawg on 01-07-2010 04:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Outback1
how long does a sow carry her kittens?
well DUH it depends how far she is going. LOL

LOL NOPE depends on how far she can go in 58 days. LOL
First smart AZZ doesn't have a chance. LOL

Posted by blueticker on 01-07-2010 05:32 PM:

Raccoons breed mainly in February and March, but matings may occur from December through June. The gestation period is about 63 days. Most litters are born in April or May, but some late-breeding females may not give birth until June, July, or August.

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Posted by on 01-07-2010 05:55 PM:

10 years ago I killed two sows in the same area the same night and both where about to have kittens and it was mid September. I’ve treed some in December that looked like they were just weaned.

Posted by liberalcreek on 01-07-2010 07:30 PM:

Coons are only receptive for breeding once a year, but if they are not bred, they will continue to come back in heat every 28-30 days until they are bred.

So if you have a larger population of coons, there is a good chance a sow may not get bred the first time around. Same as deer. That is why you see such a difference in the size of kitten coon throughout the spring and summer.

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Posted by wildbill on 01-07-2010 08:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by liberalcreek
Coons are only receptive for breeding once a year, but if they are not bred, they will continue to come back in heat every 28-30 days until they are bred.

So if you have a larger population of coons, there is a good chance a sow may not get bred the first time around. Same as deer. That is why you see such a difference in the size of kitten coon throughout the spring and summer.

thank you for the laugh..

where did you get your information??
the first part of your post ,i'd say a horse book,,,

the second part was a belly buster,,lol
how does a population get biger if the sow doesn't get bred 1st time around,??lol

the last sentence would be right if the sows had litters at different times of the year,,

read what i wrote before about what our game warden told me back when i was Raising Coon with a permit..

that was back in the day as my young friends say..i dont think it would change over the years,,that warden has retired yrs back and wouldn't lie to you,,i was told he give his own father a ticket for hunting on his neighbors land without permission..

he gave me a ticket 1 time for having a live coon out of season without a permit,,($70 fine)back in the day..after i had droped my propagation permit,,sucks cause permit was only like $30 a yr then..learn from your mistakes..lol

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Posted by liberalcreek on 01-07-2010 10:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill

where did you get your information??
the first part of your post ,i'd say a horse book,,

No, it's fact. I get my information from a degree in Wildliofe and Fisheries science and being raised in the hills and hollers of 3 different states.
Coons will only come into heat ONE time if bred or keep coming in every month or so UNTIL they get bred. They wont come back into heat immediately after giving birth like horses and other animals.

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
the second part was a belly buster,,lol
how does a population get biger if the sow doesn't get bred 1st time around,??lol

Bill, for some reaosn, you are having a hard time comprehending some pretty basic stuff that I thought I shared in a easy and elementary way.

Coon populations grow because of

1.better food sources and mast crops which mean healthier coons and slightly larger litters and less of a winter die of.
2. A decrease in hunter harvest numbers.

You're not comprehending what I said Bill. Read it again. SLOWLY.

We done a study once that proved this. In a mountainous area of a state where very little large scale farming took place coon litters varied with the amount of mast available. Coons would have slightly larger and healthier litters when the amst was good, when it was bad they would have smaller kits and smaller survival rates. An increase in disease was also seen.

In the areas of the same state where farming was king and corn and soybean were prevalent, the coons had larger healthier litters, higher survival rates, and a higher popualtion density.

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
the last sentence would be right if the sows had litters at different times of the year,,

Sows can and do have litters at varying times of the year,. But it isn't due to them coming in heat after being successfully bred the first time and giving birth. It is because they cycled several times before being successfully bred. Sometime it may take a sow 2-3 cycles before a boar breeds her successfully. Therefore , her kits would be 2-3 months younger than other sows in the area.

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Posted by josh tetting on 01-07-2010 11:39 PM:

i dont know

how manny litters a year they can have but i do know most litters are fathered by more than one bore horny little suckers

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 01-07-2010 11:55 PM:

some coon that lack body conditioning during the breeding season will abort and breed back later in the spring..also if litters get killed for one reason or another the sows will breed back again the same yr. around here in the spring of the yr, farmers will empty there barns of old hay to make room for a new crop. in the process some litters found get killed.. and the sows will breed back, and you'll see some small kits in oct that only weigh 5-6 lbs.

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Posted by knpeterson on 01-08-2010 12:02 AM:

We killed a sow christmas eve that still had milk. A few days later my in-laws found five kittens poking around their house for scraps.

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Posted by liberalcreek on 01-08-2010 12:14 AM:

http://www.wildliferescueleague.org/pdf/raccoon.pdf

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Posted by wildbill on 01-08-2010 02:54 AM:

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http://www.wildliferescueleague.org/pdf/raccoon.pdf

your degree teacher must a been a horse raiser ,cause my raccoons i had didnt know/do nothing about like what this artical says..

they must been some kind of alien coons,,,
our game warden must have had alien coons in our county also .lol.

i understand what the rest you were trying to say after you worded it better..

simple would be ,,more food = more and healther animals..

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Posted by liberalcreek on 01-08-2010 03:25 AM:

Wild Bill, I am just repeating what people who have devoted their life to studying taught us at a very well known Wildlife and Fisheries program, and what we observed in the field doing internships and mammal studies.

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Posted by David Boggs on 01-08-2010 06:41 AM:

liberalcreek

i agree with you 100 percent here on my farm where we feed ower coon they will be bigger heather litters when they have all the feed they can eat espciley where we feed good dog food becalws that it is higher in proten than corn.the first time i took my girlfreand coon hunting we had been togeather then for 3 years and i took her on a night witch was 18 degrees cold night and my dog cold trailed for 35 minutes and treed and my freands dog went on and treed in a big deen witch the hole in the tree was wore verry slick and i garntee you his dog had a coon but like i said it was a den the coon my dog had treed we shoot it out to him and i swear it was onley mabey 2 pounds and as fat as it could be and this was in janurey in dead of winter and she told me that we had killed a babby i was amazed to see that and 2 this day i have never sean that again and never befor the coon was so littel it looked like it was robed out of a deen tree in the summer and in that area they onley had acorns to eat,and it had just been loged out and verry thick so i thought the coon was running like a gang of kittens in the summer and i am 49 years old and have hunted all my life and that night i will rember till the day i die and yes i brought it out and showed it to a lot of people.no i dont think it will ever happen again it must have just been a fluck of nather,that was just one crazey night and it was just one of them things you would have had to see to belive it happen,david boggs..ps i cant spell or type a lick and know that but i think most can make out wat i just typed and we also put goat pelets worrmer in the feed twice a year and that helps them have more and heather kittens as well belive it or not it is true and ower coon here bread in jan.and feb,some times they start late dec.just deponds on the weather and they are rutting right now

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