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Posted by jculler8 on 12-29-2009 05:31 PM:

Winter Pups ???

Here's what I'm thinking: (Please give any input)

Female is due mid Feb.
Kennel is heated, however, I want her to have the pups in the garage bc she will be closer. Garage is heated as well, but a bit warmer than the kennel.

Question is... I don't want to have pups in the garage ALL winter!
How long should I wait to move them out to the kennel?

They can have a heat lamp out there.

Should I be worrying about them getting sick due to some temperature change? Maybe 10-20 degree difference?

Thanks for the input!

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Posted by houndhunter01 on 12-29-2009 05:35 PM:

we just had pups and pretty much did the same thing they were inside for a few weeks in warm weather then slowly weaned the heat lamp off and put them outside and bout 6 weeks with a little portable heater on a timer and by 8 weeks were completely heat free and couldnt tell a difference at all

Posted by jculler8 on 12-29-2009 05:40 PM:

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Originally posted by houndhunter01
we just had pups and pretty much did the same thing they were inside for a few weeks in warm weather then slowly weaned the heat lamp off and put them outside and bout 6 weeks with a little portable heater on a timer and by 8 weeks were completely heat free and couldnt tell a difference at all

thanks for the info much appreciated.

Posted by HOBO on 12-29-2009 06:31 PM:

I'll usually bring my females into the basement to have the pups and then when they are around 2 1/2 weeks old I'll move them back outside. I've NEVER used a heat lamp for any pups that I've raised. I'll fill the box full of straw and put a rug over the door and the female will do the rest.

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Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 12-29-2009 07:51 PM:

I agree with HOBO. People don't realize how much heat a dog puts off. If you close the door with a rug, give them an hour inside the box and put your hand in and feel how warm it is. My mom has always worked in a furniture factory and used to bring home partial rolls of material. We used it in the winter time to put over the dog house doors. Vinyl worked the best. Stretch it tight across the door and cut a slit in it.

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Posted by wayne f on 12-29-2009 08:16 PM:

hobo is correct litters born outside in the winter may need some heat for a few days then they are capable of regulating there body tempature. when i say give them heat for a few days just make it low heat to keep them from chilling. the last pup i bought i first saw at 5 days old they were born in a tight dog box outside with the temp averaging 20 degrees all these pups were going out in the cold as soon as they could climb out of the dog box they would play then go back in the box all were very healthy pups

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Posted by houndhunter01 on 12-29-2009 08:31 PM:

hobo you are correct i forgot to mention that with the heat lamp on we noticed the pups and the female were just to hot and miserable and thats when we took them off everything

Posted by jculler8 on 12-29-2009 08:47 PM:

Ok... makes sense now that you guys have explained it. The garage averages around 60 degrees, while its in the 40-50s inside the kennel. My boxes are pretty tight too, so after hearing what you guys had to say we should be good to go.

Thanks for all of the info. I'm sure I'll have a few more questions as time passes.

Posted by John D on 12-29-2009 08:53 PM:

I've got a litter of 12 pups that were born in an oversized dog house about 4 weeks ago and all have made it so far. We had some single digit temperatures right after they were born and several cold nights since.

I've had a heat lamp in from the beginning and for those first few critical days I had a heat pad in for them.

New born pups need 85-90 deg. After the first few days the temp can go down.

The pups will tell you if its too cold or not. If they are crying and piling up, shaking and cold to the touch then they are too cold. Do something or you will lose them if they are newborn. A heat lamp is nice because if the temp. is right they will be in a pile underneath it and resting quietly and comfortably. If they get too hot, they will start scattering out and may even lay outside the range of the lamp. Another nice thing about a heat lamp is it keeps the pups from piling in a corner where they are more likely to get laid on. Its good to have a big enough area that the mother can lay away from the heat just a little. She won't like it as warm as it needs to be for the pups.

You can regulate a heat lamp's temp. by using either a 250 or 125 watt heat bulb. If the 125 watt heat bulb is too much, just use a regular 120 watt light bulb.

As far as flaps on a house, you have to be careful of making it too tight. All the humidity from the animals breathing in a small aread may condense and make it humid and stuffy.

P.S. Here they are, today getting some soaked food. I've got the lid on the house raised and the heat lamp is attached to it.

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Posted by jculler8 on 12-29-2009 08:57 PM:

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Originally posted by John D
I've got a litter of 12 pups that were born in an oversized dog house about 4 weeks ago and all have made it so far. We had some single digit temperatures right after they were born and several cold nights since.

I've had a heat lamp in from the beginning and for those first few critical days I had a heat pad in for them.

New born pups need 85-90 deg. After the first few days the temp can go down.

The pups will tell you if its too cold or not. If they are crying and piling up, shaking and cold to the touch then they are too cold. Do something or you will lose them if they are newborn. A heat lamp is nice because if the temp. is right they will be in a pile underneath it and resting quietly and comfortably. If they get too hot, they will start scattering out and may even lay outside the range of the lamp. Another nice thing about a heat lamp is it keeps the pups from piling in a corner where they are more likely to get laid on. Its good to have a big enough area that the mother can lay away from the heat just a little. She won't like it as warm as it needs to be for the pups.

You can regulate a heat lamp's temp. by using either a 250 or 125 watt heat bulb. If the 125 watt heat bulb is too much, just use a regular 120 watt light bulb.

As far as flaps on a house, you have to be careful of making it too tight. All the humidity from the animals breathing in a small aread may condense and make it humid and stuffy.

makes sense makes sense. need a thermometer and a couple of bulbs.

Posted by Kenny Eads on 12-29-2009 09:51 PM:

I have a 8 week old pup outside right now and she is doing just fine with a 18 month old with her. I bring her to the garage for feeding 2 times a day. I give fresh straw every three days. I leave the door uncovered but I made a wind block in the kennel on both sides of the door so its is totally wind proof , the temp in the house is easy 15-20 degrees warmer than outside. SHe is doing a 100. We have had temps in the teens and lower at night and up around 20-30 in the day.

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Posted by Dogwhisper on 12-30-2009 12:47 AM:

"Should I be worrying about them getting sick due to some temperature change? Maybe 10-20 degree difference?"

If you plan on moving them from one extreme to another you should be worried about them getting sick.
But moving them is not necessary .
The outdoor temp. will not harm them ,"MOM" will keep them heated. I never used any artificial heat, just cleaned/restocked the bedding often. All my litters are planed to be birthed in the winter months.Never had an adverse effect on my litters here in Michigan where it gets COLD. Also the wind is a big concern.
Thats' been my experience.

nccoonhunter197 thats a nifty idea w/the vinyl , got plenty rolls here.

Posted by EerieEyes on 12-30-2009 04:58 PM:

somewhat off topic, who's belle bred to? (at least i assume that's whose pups we're talkin about...)

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Posted by jculler8 on 12-30-2009 06:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by EerieEyes
somewhat off topic, who's belle bred to? (at least i assume that's whose pups we're talkin about...)

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