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Posted by Todd K / UKC on 12-18-2009 02:25 PM:

Need Some Hunt Test-imonials

If you have participated in a UKC Hunt Test and feel like you could recommend them to other hunters, I would love to have you send me a paragraph on what you think about the Hunt Test Program along with a photo. The photo can be of you and your dog or just your dog. We are going to start doing a Hunt Test page in COONHOUND BLOODLINES and I'd like to feature some HTX dogs on that page.

Please email the written testimonial and photo to tkellam@ukcdogs.com

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Posted by tjt on 12-20-2009 02:21 AM:

Our club has held a fair amount of Hunt tests. Averaging 5-6 dogs per event. We have seen some dogs pass and many fail. The funny thing to see is a dog will pass on one and fail on the next one. Two mistakes in one hour is a very narrow window for passing. We usually get some lunch meat and cheese and sit around and eat and shoot the breeze. What I personaaly have found is that everyone is pulling for everyone else. It's a low key good time of fellowship and a great way to promote our sport.

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Posted by Blue Boy Rebel on 12-21-2009 02:01 PM:

I belong to the same club as Todd and I have to say I love the hunt tests! I've HTX'ed one hound, and have started working on my younger male. My hounds are exposed to both the pressure in our club's nite hunts, and the "alone time" in the woods on a hunt test quite frequently. I've noticed first hand the real truth of these hunt tests. I could have a perfect night in the woods on a nite hunt, treeing coon left and right, but on the same night, hunt that dog on his own and not get anything. And vice verse. They have their nights. Some on and some off. My hounds have failed their fair share of hunt tests, just like anyone else's, but i find with the hunt tests, I began to expect more and better things out of my hounds, which is a good thing. The hunt tests are pretty tough, for hound and handler. I would like to see the program grow and flourish, and help shake the notion that this is just another title.

The fellowship is unreal. I've never had as much fun BS-ing with a group of guys until 4:00am in my life! the low keyness is sorta nice, which is something these hunt tests will come with at first. All I know is, for me personally, I want all of my dogs to have a HTX, not for publicity, but to prove to ME that they can hold up, alone or together.


Posted by Todd K / UKC on 12-21-2009 03:17 PM:

Great! Keep them coming. Email me pics !

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Posted by tripple river on 12-26-2009 09:18 PM:

I've went to a few & really enjoyed them way less stresful than competition hunts but it's not as easy for a dog to pass as what you might think. I really hope they take off.


Posted by Maniac on 12-27-2009 10:16 PM:

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I've went to a few & really enjoyed them way less stresful than competition hunts but it's not as easy for a dog to pass as what you might think. I really hope they take off.
i agree 100% I LOVE THEM! I LIKIE TO HUNT THEM WHEN THE LEAVES ARE OFF!

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Posted by rmcmillan on 01-02-2010 04:44 PM:

I personally have not hunted in them, but have heard nothing but good things about them. And when I get one ready I intend to give it a go.

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Posted by tjt on 01-03-2010 03:34 AM:

Todd,

I do have one suggestion to make the HTX title a little more legit. Why not allow the HTX dogs to show in Dual Champions classes if they also hold a show title. It was suggested to me from a couple of handlers when I was the UEB&FA Vice President. I also blieve this would add a new angle to the HTX's.

Just a thought,

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Posted by Blue Boy Rebel on 01-03-2010 07:49 AM:

I have to agree with Mr. Turner on that one.

Percentage wise, the HTX is just as hard to get as a NITCH degree, and it shows that dog can tree a coon, so it should apply to Dual Champion titles.

In my opinion anyways lol


Posted by milan_30 on 01-03-2010 02:38 PM:

I wish there were some closer to me. I haven't been able to go to one because I'd have to drive almost 2 hours to the nearest one. I brought it up at my club and most of the guys didn't seemed interested and I can't understand why. Maybe they don't have an honest dog? lol

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Posted by Todd K / UKC on 01-04-2010 02:11 PM:

I also like the idea of allowing HTX dogs to show in Duals. It may be as simple as calling the class by a different name then "Dual Champions" in order to get it done. Maybe call it Total Dog or something. In the truest sense, HTX is a certification and not a championship. But we'll work on that because it is certainly a validation that a hound is a working coonhound.

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Posted by Stewart Hassler on 01-05-2010 12:45 AM:

HTX

I really like the rules. 2 faults in 60 minutes is a failed hunt any night, weather it's a hunt test, pleasure hunt or night hunt. It's a fair test of your hounds ability to keep it's nose clean and perform to a strict standard of what a coondog should be expected to do any night. We all know very few can do it every night but if you use this as a standard for measuring your hounds performance you should be able to figure out thier average ability.
It's also fun to show someone else who would never take the time to see your hound alone what kind of coondog your packing.


Posted by Gary Hazel on 01-05-2010 07:57 AM:

Need Some Hunt Test-imonials

todd kellam,
I would like to see HTX hunts here in the Lone Star State. After reading what everyone has written on this board. I bit they are alot of fun.

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Posted by ThunderRock on 01-06-2010 08:27 PM:

I belong to the same club as Todd and Corey. We have one dog that has recived its HTX and 2 others that only need 1 or 2 more passes. I belive the Hunt Tests are a good way to prove to others that a dog can do what it was breed to do with none of the bs that comes with the NITCH titles. A Dog that me toos will have a harder time reciving the HTX then it would a NITCH title. And yes the NITCH are still respected, but I have to say in my opinion i respect HTX more. Only becasue that dog is in the woods only relying on itself. Showing what IT is made of, not relying on other dogs as most do in nite hunts (NOT SAYING ALL DOGS ARE LIKE THAT) And for those who only show their dogs, or only pleasure hunts, it gives them an alternative to the nite hunts to get a "hunting titile" on their hound. ANd as Todd said above, it is a totatly differnt atmospher then the competition hunts. You find other guys pullin for the other guys dogs. I think that EVERY club should look into holding Hunt Tests.

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Posted by on 01-08-2010 02:31 AM:

I would take my dog to some of the hunt tests, but the closest one is 162 miles away...


Posted by bluedogtn on 01-10-2010 02:55 AM:

I know yall are going to laugh,but ive heard so much about the hunt tests but i have no clue what goes on. Could yall fill me in a little without laughing at me lol

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Posted by Robert Welch on 01-10-2010 04:18 PM:

HTX Has Value!!

If you don't believe so! Run in a few. I ran 2 dogs in some the first year they came out. I had one dog that passed 3 out of the 4 entered. The one that he failed was handler fault not the dog. I treed him in the ground. He left the hole and then the 8 caught him. He faulted out after treeing a coon and satisfying the pass requirement. The second dog I ran in 5 tests and only got one pass. I thought a lot of that dog but he had holes that showed up when running in a hunt test. He treed coon but he just made a lot of mistakes. If you think your dog is top notch prove it and try getting a HTX title on them. It is a little nerve racking when you don't pass but when you do it is a good feeling.Todd from a paper work point why not just send in the dogs that pass and have a total number entered on the report sheet. Also any thoughts about putting the test in the results section of the Coonhound Bloodlines?

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Posted by SJunior on 01-11-2010 02:50 AM:

Our club had one in October, bad weather that nite but we sent 3 dogs to the woods. 2 nitech and 1 open dog, the nitech dogs didn't pass and the open dog did. We will definitely have more and hope we can get more club members involved. The owners of the nitech dogs are more determined to pass now.

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Posted by agraham on 01-12-2010 03:46 AM:

todd

hey Todd. My blue english has earned the Htx. It took me 7 times to get. It was all my fault. I am taking this time to learn so i can do better on the nights hunts. Dirty blue also needs a 4th place or better to nite champion. so the Htx also proves he can get the meat in a group or by himself. I am emailing you a pic also. I wish more clubs would do the hunts because they are really fun and you can learn alot. I also agree with Todd and the others about showing in duel or the all purpose class.


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Posted by roughcreek on 01-12-2010 05:41 PM:

i liked what someone posted on here. EVERYONE WAS HOPING THE DOGS WOULD PASS !! these are a fun hunt & not an easy hunt to pass. people that dont competition hunt can come & enjoy showing thier dogs off in a totally different way than the nite hunts. you guys that want to hold these HTX hunts need to realize it dont cost your club no up front money !! if you got some people interested in holding HTX hunts just get together with the people that want to hunt them & get a club member to manage them & your in bussness. all your out is $3 a dog. club is not out a dime. so its no cost to your club !! i have passed 2 dogs to HTX & i was as excited about this title as when i nite champion a dog.

just for example, we have had 3 HTX hunts this winter. our 1st one was terrable whether pouring rain & 40 mile a hour winds. we had 3 people show up but none of us hunted. so we had no dogs entered & NO COST FOR THAT HUNT !! this is what i'm saying there is no cost to your club to hold HTX hunts !! just someone in your club willing to host them. if you explain this to your club members & you are willing to hold them why couldnt your club hold them.

YOU CAN RUN THESE HUNTS & HUNT TOO. DONT NEED NOBODY TO STAY AT THE CLUB.

winter is a good time to hold these hunts. gets dark early you can get home early on the week nites !!

TRY ONE YOU'L WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER !!


Posted by bluedogtn on 01-13-2010 08:25 PM:

Can anyone tell me what goes on in the hunt tests. Id like to know a little about it.

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Posted by tjt on 01-14-2010 11:39 AM:

In a Hunt Test 1 dog goes to the woods with an evaluator. They hunt for 1 hour. During that time the dog must show 1 coon without commiting 2 faults or the same fault twice. Pass 3 Hunt Tests and your dog gets an HTX after it's name on it's papers. We have a couple spectaters usually in the woods with about all dogs. With the laid back atmosphere the spectaters become a cheering section for that dog.

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Posted by bluedogtn on 01-14-2010 09:07 PM:

How do i find out what is the closest one to my hometown?

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Posted by Robert Welch on 01-15-2010 05:21 AM:

Here is the link to the hunt test listings

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How do i find out what is the closest one to my hometown?

http://www.ukcdogs.com/HuntTest.nsf/HTWeb?OpenView

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Posted by Lone Pine JB on 01-15-2010 01:06 PM:

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Originally posted by todd kellam
I also like the idea of allowing HTX dogs to show in Duals. It may be as simple as calling the class by a different name then "Dual Champions" in order to get it done. Maybe call it Total Dog or something. In the truest sense, HTX is a certification and not a championship. But we'll work on that because it is certainly a validation that a hound is a working coonhound.


I certainly don't agree with allowing them into Duals. If you want to open it up, start a new class, don't just rename the one you have. Like you said, Duals is a Championship degree that was obtained by being better than the competition on a given day.

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