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Posted by Redwood Hounds on 11-21-2009 07:22 AM:

Walkers - Rear Dewclaws

I've been trying to do a little reserch and narrow down where rear dewclaws is coming from in some of the Walkers we have out here in the west... There seemed to be two seperate lines that had them... But I just found out there is ONE dog they do have in common. Wagers' Stylish Lipper. In fact they are pretty heavy bred on him.

How common is rear dewclaws back east? What lines does it show up in most? What big named dogs have/had them?

I dont really like them, but its one of those things that pretty easy to fix at birth.

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-21-2009 02:19 PM:

Re: Walkers - Rear Dewclaws

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Originally posted by Redwood Hounds
I've been trying to do a little reserch and narrow down where rear dewclaws is coming from in some of the Walkers we have out here in the west... There seemed to be two seperate lines that had them... But I just found out there is ONE dog they do have in common. Wagers' Stylish Lipper. In fact they are pretty heavy bred on him.

How common is rear dewclaws back east? What lines does it show up in most? What big named dogs have/had them?

I dont really like them, but its one of those things that pretty easy to fix at birth.

Not only Wager's Stylish Lipper, but Schmershal's Stylish Queen (They were littermates) Both were out of Stylish Banjo and a little female named Wick's Ozark Missy.

Since I can find no evidence of Banjo dogs carrying the trait, or passing it on... All roads point to Missy!

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Posted by ysudep2 on 11-21-2009 02:28 PM:

Just seen a heavy lipper breed pup out this way that had rear dewclaws.

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Posted by Jerry Moll on 11-21-2009 02:37 PM:

Re: Re: Walkers - Rear Dewclaws

quote:
Originally posted by Oak Ridge
Not only Wager's Stylish Lipper, but Schmershal's Stylish Queen (They were littermates) Both were out of Stylish Banjo and a little female named Wick's Ozark Missy.

Since I can find no evidence of Banjo dogs carrying the trait, or passing it on... All roads point to Missy!

Joe, I hate to disagree BUT. Wager's Stylish Lipper and Stylish Queen were not littermates. Wager's Stylish Lipper was out of Stylish Queen X House’s Lipper, Stylish Lipper was a littermate to Chirpie, Stylish Clover’s momma.

Posted by muddy650 on 11-21-2009 02:58 PM:

Bout everything with Banjo blood has them I am told. When I first got into hunting mine had them and a man told me she must have some Banjo blood. I checked her papers and he was right.

Posted by on 11-21-2009 03:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Doug Johnson
Redwood Hounds, I think if you look hard at Stylish Queen, you'll find your answer.

Yep.

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Oak Ridge
Not only Wager's Stylish Lipper, but Schmershal's Stylish Queen (They were littermates) Both were out of Stylish Banjo and a little female named Wick's Ozark Missy.

Since I can find no evidence of Banjo dogs carrying the trait, or passing it on... All roads point to Missy! [/B]

Man Joe, You slippin'! LOL!

Posted by Driveshaft on 11-21-2009 04:11 PM:

Banjo......................

Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-21-2009 07:35 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Walkers - Rear Dewclaws

quote:
Originally posted by Jerry Moll
Joe, I hate to disagree BUT. Wager's Stylish Lipper and Stylish Queen were not littermates. Wager's Stylish Lipper was out of Stylish Queen X House’s Lipper, Stylish Lipper was a littermate to Chirpie, Stylish Clover’s momma.

Dang it.....

I've done that before.....

I meant to say that Chirpee was a litter mate to Stylish Lipper...

If I would engage my brain clutch before I start typing some time....

Bottom line is the Stylish Queen link is the link...

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-21-2009 07:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Doug Johnson
Jerry, I think Joe had some short term memory loss when he posted that.

Redwood Hounds, I think if you look hard at Stylish Queen, you'll find your answer. I personally don't know of to many studs that have rear dew claws, the only one advertised currently is Witchdoctor.

I'm no expert at all but I've bred, hunted and studied heavy blooded Banjo dogs for over 30 years, never knew of any that had dew claws.

Not been nationally advertised, but I know of a real "stud" dog that has em...

Calico Jack.....

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Posted by Maniac on 11-21-2009 07:42 PM:

THEY COME FROM SHEPERD. IV ALSO BEEN TOLD MOST OF THE HOUNDS WITH REAR DEWCLAWS MAKE COON DAWGS. WHATS THE (BIG DEAL) ABOUT THEM??? THEY ARE STILL HOUNDS EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

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Posted by chris baker on 11-21-2009 08:23 PM:

Stylish Tack throws them some and he is off Stylish Lipper. It's a cheap and easy fix when they are puppies. No big deal just take care of them. Littermate to my female had them and mine didn't. They had them clipped as a puppy and if noone told you there would noone ever know.

Posted by Redwood Hounds on 11-21-2009 08:44 PM:

I never said I have a problem with them. I don't really like the looks of them, and would rather just have them taken off as pups. In some of the places we hunt, its just something to get torn off. The breed standard calls for them to be removed.

I was just wondering where it might be coming from, and how common it really is.

I have two females here, littermates, only one has them. Their sire had them, and about 75% of the litter did. I bred one of the sisters (the one without), and she didn't have any pups with them.

Another 'line' of walkers out here has them show up frequently. Only link in their pedigrees are Stylish Lipper.

I am going to be breeding a non dewclawed son of my non dewclawed female, to a dewclawed female out of the other line. I'm figuring I'm gonna see some dews in the bunch.

Posted by OKTREEDOG on 11-22-2009 09:33 AM:

Stylish Queen.

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Posted by Whistle Pig on 11-22-2009 05:59 PM:

All breeds have them

Black and tans have them
Blueticks have them
English have them
Redbones have them
Plotts have them

As hobo says, Some mutt In there somewhere.

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Posted by steveburch on 11-22-2009 06:45 PM:

Dewclaws

Does any breed allow dewclaws on the bench?

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Posted by Redwood Hounds on 11-23-2009 01:03 AM:

I believe they all allow them, it's not a disqualification. Some standards say they should be removed - It's just one of those things they dock points for.

Posted by CoonBusterWV on 11-23-2009 02:17 AM:

Walk With Wick II says it comes from the old original Wick's Stylish Banjo, the Wick's stylish thunder dog had rear dewclaws and Wick says it was the best dog he ever followed behind and it was out of old banjo. He says in his book that alot of them dogs that had that trait turned out to be nice one's.

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Posted by oklared on 11-23-2009 03:20 AM:

Rap rubberband arround them and bingo they will fall off in a few days. This works no matter the age of the dog.

Posted by wayne f on 11-23-2009 03:49 AM:

whistle pig all dogs started out as mutts till they were selectively bred to make them a breed dew claws can be snipped off with a set of nail clippers when pups are a few days old they don't grow back taking them off with a rubberband maynot always work i have seen them grow back just like a nail

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Posted by ky hillbilly on 11-23-2009 06:03 AM:

It's no shame in it, these heavy bred pups have a little cur in them. Why do you think some are silent on track,shorter ear,little more grit,and shorter legs. The cur only makes them better! LOL!!

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Posted by Kenny Eads on 11-23-2009 02:16 PM:

Stylish Queen.

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Posted by HOBO on 11-23-2009 02:36 PM:

Re: All breeds have them

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Originally posted by Whistle Pig
Black and tans have them
Blueticks have them
English have them
Redbones have them
Plotts have them

As hobo says, Some mutt In there somewhere.

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Posted by Whistle Pig on 11-23-2009 02:49 PM:

Banjo keep trucking

quote:
Originally posted by wayne f
whistle pig all dogs started out as mutts till they were selectively bred to make them a breed dew claws can be snipped off with a set of nail clippers when pups are a few days old they don't grow back taking them off with a rubberband maynot always work i have seen them grow back just like a nail

Well all I can say Is ole Banjo, sure did some serious studding . to mark all the breeds.

Posted by oklared on 11-23-2009 03:40 PM:

they will not grow back if you rubber them at the leg, just like you nueter a animal there is nothing to grow, ask your vet.

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