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Posted by treberta on 10-23-2009 04:46 PM:

Rule question

Okay 4 dog cast. Dog A is dclared treed and then dog B is starting to tree in the same area as B. While it's uncertain that they are split B is treed for 75 and when the cast heads in there only B is treeing. A is of coursed minused BUT what does B recieve on tree?


Posted by Maniac on 10-23-2009 04:51 PM:

Re: Rule question

quote:
Originally posted by treberta
Okay 4 dog cast. Dog A is dclared treed and then dog B is starting to tree in the same area as B. While it's uncertain that they are split B is treed for 75 and when the cast heads in there only B is treeing. A is of coursed minused BUT what does B recieve on tree?
75 cause you dont know what tree dog a was on

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Posted by blueticker on 10-23-2009 04:57 PM:

75 +

If you had declared a split tree, and the judge accepted your call then 125+

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Posted by treberta on 10-23-2009 05:24 PM:

Correct but I think this should be changed, Say I declare my dog split and we get into the tree and both dogs are together. Well now im minused 125 because Dog A was treed first but yet I know it moved to my dog and now stole my points.

When a dog is declared treed for 125 and another dog is declared treed for 75 that dog that treed first should have to be seen on the tree with the dog for 75! the dog that treed for 75 should automatically be bumped up to 125.

I was in a cast once where a guy had treed his dog 3 times and it kept moving well the third time he treed his dog I treed mine in that general direction. Went to my dog found the coon and the judge awarded me 75. Get my point now?


Posted by josh on 10-23-2009 06:07 PM:

Huh, Never heard of anyone drawing a crappy dog that ruins the whole hunt for everyone in a nite hunt.


Man up, those are the breaks.....


Posted by treberta on 10-23-2009 06:28 PM:

I don't think you're getting the point josh but thanks for trying.


Posted by Todd Miller on 10-23-2009 06:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by treberta
Correct but I think this should be changed, Say I declare my dog split and we get into the tree and both dogs are together. Well now im minused 125 because Dog A was treed first but yet I know it moved to my dog and now stole my points.

When a dog is declared treed for 125 and another dog is declared treed for 75 that dog that treed first should have to be seen on the tree with the dog for 75! the dog that treed for 75 should automatically be bumped up to 125.

I was in a cast once where a guy had treed his dog 3 times and it kept moving well the third time he treed his dog I treed mine in that general direction. Went to my dog found the coon and the judge awarded me 75. Get my point now?



Treberta,
Unless your the judge you can not declare your dog split treed. You tree second you get second (75). I don't think you should be bumped up. Dog A just took 125- what more do you need to win?


Posted by treberta on 10-23-2009 07:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Todd Miller
Treberta,
Unless your the judge you can not declare your dog split treed. You tree second you get second (75). I don't think you should be bumped up. Dog A just took 125- what more do you need to win?



If my or youre' dog treed the coon then they deserve 125! And you're not just hunting against 1 other dog, usually that is.


Posted by Slough on 10-23-2009 07:25 PM:

75+ is all you gona get.

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Posted by Todd Miller on 10-23-2009 08:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by treberta
If my or youre' dog treed the coon then they deserve 125! And you're not just hunting against 1 other dog, usually that is.


If your not sure they were spilt, a dog backing another dog should never get bumped to 125 in my book. I have seen a lot of dogs tree in for 125 and leave. You really should have a big smile for Dog A leaving and your dog staying and be happy with that.


Posted by coon hunter on 10-24-2009 03:18 AM:

In the situation you described 75 is all you are going to get and 75 is all you deserve. If it was not declared a split tree before you went to it, then it is scored as a single tree.

quote:
Originally posted by treberta
When a dog is declared treed for 125 and another dog is declared treed for 75 that dog that treed first should have to be seen on the tree with the dog for 75! the dog that treed for 75 should automatically be bumped up to 125.

It IS automatically bumped to 125 (if it is split and on a different tree).
quote:
Originally posted by treberta


I was in a cast once where a guy had treed his dog 3 times and it kept moving well the third time he treed his dog I treed mine in that general direction. Went to my dog found the coon and the judge awarded me 75. Get my point now?

The point I get is you want your dog to get points it don't deserve. It appears your dog is lacking speed and has a habit of treeing behind the others. Get a better dog and you wont have to worry about.

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Posted by pigsit on 10-24-2009 01:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by treberta
If my or youre' dog treed the coon then they deserve 125! And you're not just hunting against 1 other dog, usually that is.
How do you know yourdog treed the coon? He might have just backed the other dog and the other dog quit.
Dog A gets 125- and you get 75+; that, a 200 point spread; lots of casts I'll take 200 and just stay at the club house. Tom

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Posted by on 10-24-2009 03:28 PM:

"125 points for dog DECLARED treed first"

You don't get 125 for being the dog that treed the coon first. You get it for being the first dog called treed.

Dog/handler......50/50.


Posted by ringtail on 10-25-2009 08:20 AM:

I agree w/ JiM.......

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
You don't get 125 for being the dog that treed the coon first. You get it for being the first dog called treed.

Dog/handler......50/50.

also u may need a different dog...... sounds like u take an lot of second trees......

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