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Posted by Jeremy Mapes on 10-19-2009 04:10 AM:

state race points ?

How's it work when a dog is transferred to another owner in a different state? Do the points transfer or do they stay in the original state. In this case the transfer was done in October.

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Posted by thornie on 10-19-2009 09:28 AM:

Jermey, I think the dog has to earn the same amount of points, for the new owner for the other point to count also. Maybe someone else will reply.

Posted by DAREWOOD11 on 10-19-2009 01:24 PM:

yea thats the way i understood it to

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Posted by Jeremy Mapes on 10-19-2009 01:58 PM:

So if the dog has 30 in Michigan I have to get 30 in Indiana. Otherwise she will be figured in with Michigans dogs?

Posted by DAREWOOD11 on 10-20-2009 12:41 AM:

YEA I BELIEVE THATS CORRECT

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Posted by Sundown Beagles on 10-20-2009 01:02 PM:

Jeremy. It is my understanding that the dog had to be transfered prior to May 1st (I think thats the date) in order for points to transfer. I to thought that if a hound was transfered after this date that any points you accumilate in your own state would be matched with the points the dog had earned prior to transfer. BUT!!! I believe this did not get printed as part of the rules.
With this said I THINK that if a huond is transfered in October and has 30 points in Michigan and is sold to someone in Ohio that hound has to start over. It no longer has 30 points in Michigan.
I THINK THIS IS RIGHT BUT I MAY BE WRONG.
I looked it up last year and if memory serves me right this is the rules as printed in the American Beagler at the start of the program. Hope this helps.

Posted by Jed Nichols on 10-20-2009 01:44 PM:

Sundown

You are correct Dave. When transfering ownership of a dog after May 1st the previous States points will be lossed.

(Matching the points and keeping them ALL is a myth)
It was talked about at one time but it is not in the current Rules.

Posted by Jeremy Mapes on 10-20-2009 09:09 PM:

I understand not letting them switch states, but to erase the points they've already earned in a state seems a bit extreme to me. Why take away from a hound what it has already earned?

Will there be any changes to this for next year?

Posted by Lakeland Kennel on 10-21-2009 12:47 PM:

What happens to a dog transferred in the same state?

Does UKC have any way of knowing if a Hunting Beagle Champion or Grand Hunting Beagle Champion has competition or does UKC just go on the hunt reports?

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Posted by Sundown Beagles on 10-21-2009 01:21 PM:

What happens to a dog transferred in the same state?

The dog keeps the points because its owner is in that state.

Posted by Jeremy Mapes on 10-21-2009 07:01 PM:

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Originally posted by Sundown Beagles
What happens to a dog transferred in the same state?

The dog keeps the points because its owner is in that state.

That's ridiculous! If a guy in Michigan ten miles away from where I live in Indiana buys a Michigan dog it keeps its points, but if I buy it and bring it to Indiana it loses them. It just doesn't make sense. Hopefully this will be corrected in the future.

Posted by Kevin Watkins on 10-21-2009 07:32 PM:

Jeremy, The funny thing is your dogs points in Michigan were earned in Indiana at our club. lol sorry bud

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Posted by Stony Branch on 10-21-2009 07:55 PM:

If this is an issue just pay the owner all but a dollar of the purchase price and agree to keep the dog in that owners name till the end of the year. Run the dog till the end of the year and then finish paying off the owner and then transfer the dog. The only catch is that the dog wont be in your name until the sale is complete at the end of the year. Your not breaking any rules because the dog is legally still owned by the origional owner. Its been done several time that I know of.

Posted by Jeremy Mapes on 10-21-2009 11:36 PM:

I thought about that a little bit earlier.

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