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bench training
i have never trained a dog to bench but my wife wants to enter a few shows dose anyone have any tips on how to train a dog for bench thanks
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josh campbell
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Josh,
I'm in the same boat you are.......I did a google search and found this web site.....Hopefully it will help...it's pretty detailed. ( Although I'm not into the "clicker" thing at all )
http://www.dragonflyllama.com/%20DO.../confstack.html
It should take you right to the page....
good luck,
Stan
Only been showing dogs for a couple of years
So I am not an expert, these are just things I have learned.
Most importantly start out with a dog that shows good, it's much easier to start with one that you don't have to prod, push and pull to get stacked up. As you get better you can do that.
Also go to a few shows and watch and after the show is over ask questions. Have your dog there and get someone to watch/help you set them up. There are no stupid questions, you won't learn if you don't ask.
If you know someone with a copy of the book Jr Lassiter wrote about showing borrow it and read it.
Lastly practice, practice, practice and have fun doing it!!!!!!
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Kevin Mathis
Mud Creek Treeing Walkers
thanks for all the info. he would not stand for me when i started but is getting better
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josh campbell
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I agree that it's a lot easier to start with showing a dog that knows what it's doing. When I started my dogs didn't know what they were doing either, and things didn't go so well. I had a reputable handler in my area keep my dog for a couple months leading up to the Grand American and when I finally got to start showing her she was totally broke...that combined with what the guy showed me about setting her up helped me a LOT. I've learned so much in the past year watching experienced handlers show. Like Kevin said, most people will be more than happy to help if you ask.
As far as training your dog, I've found that what works best for me is working them on the bench for about 10 minutes a couple times a day. My 8 month old that lives in the house was SUPER easy to bench break...I was able to show him after about 3 weeks of quick sessions a couple times a day. During your sessions just be very patient, and don't get frustrated if you have to reset his legs and stuff a few times. He'll get the hang of it before long! Good luck!
Kevin, what's the name of Jr. Lassiter's book? I'd love to find a copy of it.
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Poison Whiskey Coonhounds
Jessica O'Connor
CH'PR'Moss Blue Carolina Rain-Queen of Show, BBOA Zone 6 Championship
NITECH CH 'PR' Carolina Flo
CH 'PR' Poison Whiskey Waylon
CH 'PR' Cruse's I'm Your Huckleberry
CH'PR' PoisonWhiskey WildHoney
'PR' Poison Whiskey CowgirlsDontCry
CH'PR' Bowers & O'Connor's Foxy Roxy
PoisonWhiskey SonOfTheSouth
Poison Whiskey Hello Darlin'-2013 AL State BMOS, AL State Hall of Fame King of Show
PoisonWhiskey LilMsHonkyTonk
Coming Soon...
PoisonWhiskeyMaybeItWasMemphis
PoisonWhiskey Heart Like Mine
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In loving memory...
CCH GRCH 'PR' Swampland Blue Gypsy-RIP sweet girl
'PR' Miller Time
1-praise and treats work well too.
2-if the dog already has good feet, you have got half the battle won.
3-dont get frustrated - will set you and the dog back a lot (been there, done that)
4-shorter sessions for younger pups, getting longer as they age and "get it"
5-depending on how 'hard headed' the dog is will help determine how you can handle and talk to them during the sessions.
6-i'm working with one now that has not seen much bench time at 10m, she has had 4-5 sessions and is getting better.
7-keep control of the head, if the head falls, the body follows.
8-watch many other people. each will do somthing different and those tricks may or may not work on your dog
9-ask other people if they will give you pointers
10-watch the people that win alot and the ones that dont. try to see what the difference is in the dogs they are showing. are some flat footed, sway backed, no angulation, etc.
11-try to emulate what others are doing and incorporate how they handle their dogs into what you do.
12-try to have fun and not get frustrated with the politics.
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2012 National Grand Show Champion, World Show Bluetick Female CCH GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)
2012 Purina Show Bluetick Breed Winner GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Grt Balls o' Fire (Jerry Lee)
2013 World Champion Bluetick, 2013 AO Overall Bred By winner GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It (breeder)
2015 AO Overall Dual Champion NTCH GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It (breeder/owner/handler)
2016 Grand American Overall Dual Ch, Overall Show CHampion NTCH GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It
AKC CSG, UKC CCH GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)
2010 National Grand Champion Bluetick
2013 AO Bluetick Stud Dog winner
CCH GCH 'PR' Southern Flame Elvira - the one that started it all
southernflamekennel@earthlink.net
RIP Southern Flame Elvira (the cornerstone of the kennel) 5/16/02-1/17/14
RIP Southern Flame Scarlet (the lone Redbone) 5/11/01-7/19/13
RIP Southern Flame Wild Irish Rose (Rosie) 6/15/09 - 3/12/15
RIP Southern Flame Too Hot to Trot (Bonnie) 3/27/07 - 4/20/15
RIP Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)
RIP Southern Flame Triple Trouble (TT) 12/17/04 - 11/19/16
RIP Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)
RIP AdeleMay's a Smokey Bandit (Adele)
RIP Southern Flame I Like Ike (Ike)
RIP Bella the Beagle
Bear, Jerry Lee, Camo, Maybellene, Lacy, Thor, Sissy, Merle, Tina, Bridgette - the Blueticks, Hollie - the Aussie
A specific question for you trainers out there: when stacking my dog she does real well, she just wants to turn and look at me instead of looking straight ahead. Any tips?
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Roger Wilson
Cane River Track Dogs
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Roger even my most broke dogs will do that every now and then. When I'm working with my younger dogs if they turn their heads I grasp them under their muzzle and firmly put their head back in place while telling them "stand" or "head up." These are just the 2 commands I use with my dogs, you could always tell them "no" if they really understand it, or whatever works for you. Even if you have to do it 20 times in a session they'll figure it out eventually if you're consistent.
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Poison Whiskey Coonhounds
Jessica O'Connor
CH'PR'Moss Blue Carolina Rain-Queen of Show, BBOA Zone 6 Championship
NITECH CH 'PR' Carolina Flo
CH 'PR' Poison Whiskey Waylon
CH 'PR' Cruse's I'm Your Huckleberry
CH'PR' PoisonWhiskey WildHoney
'PR' Poison Whiskey CowgirlsDontCry
CH'PR' Bowers & O'Connor's Foxy Roxy
PoisonWhiskey SonOfTheSouth
Poison Whiskey Hello Darlin'-2013 AL State BMOS, AL State Hall of Fame King of Show
PoisonWhiskey LilMsHonkyTonk
Coming Soon...
PoisonWhiskeyMaybeItWasMemphis
PoisonWhiskey Heart Like Mine
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In loving memory...
CCH GRCH 'PR' Swampland Blue Gypsy-RIP sweet girl
'PR' Miller Time
and some dogs you have to be "firm" with.
you have to keep at it.
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2012 National Grand Show Champion, World Show Bluetick Female CCH GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)
2012 Purina Show Bluetick Breed Winner GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Grt Balls o' Fire (Jerry Lee)
2013 World Champion Bluetick, 2013 AO Overall Bred By winner GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It (breeder)
2015 AO Overall Dual Champion NTCH GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It (breeder/owner/handler)
2016 Grand American Overall Dual Ch, Overall Show CHampion NTCH GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It
AKC CSG, UKC CCH GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)
2010 National Grand Champion Bluetick
2013 AO Bluetick Stud Dog winner
CCH GCH 'PR' Southern Flame Elvira - the one that started it all
southernflamekennel@earthlink.net
RIP Southern Flame Elvira (the cornerstone of the kennel) 5/16/02-1/17/14
RIP Southern Flame Scarlet (the lone Redbone) 5/11/01-7/19/13
RIP Southern Flame Wild Irish Rose (Rosie) 6/15/09 - 3/12/15
RIP Southern Flame Too Hot to Trot (Bonnie) 3/27/07 - 4/20/15
RIP Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)
RIP Southern Flame Triple Trouble (TT) 12/17/04 - 11/19/16
RIP Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)
RIP AdeleMay's a Smokey Bandit (Adele)
RIP Southern Flame I Like Ike (Ike)
RIP Bella the Beagle
Bear, Jerry Lee, Camo, Maybellene, Lacy, Thor, Sissy, Merle, Tina, Bridgette - the Blueticks, Hollie - the Aussie
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Originally posted by joshcamp
thanks for all the info. he would not stand for me when i started but is getting better
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2012 National Grand Show Champion, World Show Bluetick Female CCH GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)
2012 Purina Show Bluetick Breed Winner GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Grt Balls o' Fire (Jerry Lee)
2013 World Champion Bluetick, 2013 AO Overall Bred By winner GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It (breeder)
2015 AO Overall Dual Champion NTCH GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It (breeder/owner/handler)
2016 Grand American Overall Dual Ch, Overall Show CHampion NTCH GRCH 'PR' Sexy and I know It
AKC CSG, UKC CCH GRCH 'PR' Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)
2010 National Grand Champion Bluetick
2013 AO Bluetick Stud Dog winner
CCH GCH 'PR' Southern Flame Elvira - the one that started it all
southernflamekennel@earthlink.net
RIP Southern Flame Elvira (the cornerstone of the kennel) 5/16/02-1/17/14
RIP Southern Flame Scarlet (the lone Redbone) 5/11/01-7/19/13
RIP Southern Flame Wild Irish Rose (Rosie) 6/15/09 - 3/12/15
RIP Southern Flame Too Hot to Trot (Bonnie) 3/27/07 - 4/20/15
RIP Southern Flame Bad News Bandit (Bandit)
RIP Southern Flame Triple Trouble (TT) 12/17/04 - 11/19/16
RIP Southern Flame Blame it on the Rain (Rain)
RIP AdeleMay's a Smokey Bandit (Adele)
RIP Southern Flame I Like Ike (Ike)
RIP Bella the Beagle
Bear, Jerry Lee, Camo, Maybellene, Lacy, Thor, Sissy, Merle, Tina, Bridgette - the Blueticks, Hollie - the Aussie
yes he dose it on the ground also. he is not pushing back but he is squatting his rear end
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josh campbell
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