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Posted by RedBones4me on 06-07-2009 02:23 AM:

Future of hunting after Obama gun ban...

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Posted by StraightDrive on 06-07-2009 02:35 AM:

That is CHANGE right there. LMBO That is neat. Wonder where you could order one at? LOL

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Posted by trappin_girl on 06-07-2009 03:46 AM:

LMAO!!!!!

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Posted by cbrigham on 06-07-2009 01:42 PM:

If thats what it takes for me to get one that nice I am all in on the gun ban

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Posted by meandoldred on 06-07-2009 02:36 PM:

LMAO ...

YOU AIN'T RIGHT !

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 06-07-2009 03:31 PM:

Been doing that for years, legal, anit it? LOL

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Posted by RedBones4me on 06-07-2009 03:37 PM:

I dont know if they would call that hunting over bait or not. LOL

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A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.


Posted by robgregory on 06-07-2009 03:37 PM:

Man,I ain't never seen a rat with a set of antlers THAT BIG!!!!!!!

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Posted by ransom1 on 06-07-2009 05:41 PM:

common sence

hey some of these gun bans are good,who the hell needs an assault rifle,fully auto matic or not,if the line isnt drawn somewhere then i guess it would be ok for me to own a like tank with amunition,oran atomic bomb,now how would ya like it ithere were no rules or laws,ill be the first one to agree that this country isnt perfect but all you have to do is get a plane ticket and move to the country of our choice,see how long we like that.im not blasting anyone for anything,im just saying change is hard to swallow but sometimes good,i didnt vote for obama but im not blaming our current economy on him,he inharited this problem,the bush administration set it up,im in tx and beleive me i saw it happen here over nitemsame thing happened in the early eightys with reagan,oh and by the way most of the other countrys you could choose to live in now,my door would prob be knocked down right now before i could finish typing this message,lol,god bless the USA!


Posted by huntingwalkers9 on 06-07-2009 05:46 PM:

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yeah bud it starts with little things and then bam, your door is getting kicked in for that message.

you give a little and they take alot

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Posted by ysudep2 on 06-07-2009 06:50 PM:

Re: common sence

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Originally posted by ransom1
hey some of these gun bans are good,who the hell needs an assault rifle,fully auto matic or not,if the line isnt drawn somewhere then i guess it would be ok for me to own a like tank with amunition,oran atomic bomb,now how would ya like it ithere were no rules or laws,ill be the first one to agree that this country isnt perfect but all you have to do is get a plane ticket and move to the country of our choice,see how long we like that.im not blasting anyone for anything,im just saying change is hard to swallow but sometimes good,i didnt vote for obama but im not blaming our current economy on him,he inharited this problem,the bush administration set it up,im in tx and beleive me i saw it happen here over nitemsame thing happened in the early eightys with reagan,oh and by the way most of the other countrys you could choose to live in now,my door would prob be knocked down right now before i could finish typing this message,lol,god bless the USA!



I have to agree with this, I would have no problem with assauly rifles and full auto guns being banned. As long as common sense is used to hold up after that. Thats were the problem would lie, but if I had to vote on it. I would vote against those 2 types of weapons!

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Posted by blueman1tick on 06-07-2009 06:54 PM:

theres that ol saying "they can have my guns: bullets first!"

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Posted by Dan Reuter on 06-07-2009 07:39 PM:

Re: Re: common sence

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Originally posted by ysudep2
I have to agree with this, I would have no problem with assauly rifles and full auto guns being banned. As long as common sense is used to hold up after that. Thats were the problem would lie, but if I had to vote on it. I would vote against those 2 types of weapons!


Here's the problem with thinking like this.

"As long as common sense is used to hold up after that."

Common sense has absolutely nothing to do with politics. The term "Assault Rifle" is a buzzword used by the anti-gun lobby. The anti-gunners love to use the term assault rifle followed up by pictures of fully automatic sub-machine guns and other such weapons which are already illegal. This lulls people into thinking that this is what they are after. They are not. These weapons are already subject to extreme legislation. The anti-gun lobby are after all firearms. It is easy for them to villianize a LEGAL semi-automatic because it looks like these other "villianous" weapons when in fact it is a firearm that is not traditional looking but modern, tough and relable. The premise for the anti-gun cause is to target these modern looking legal firearms knowing all to well that if these can be regulated that the legislation will condemn a large portion of other more traditional looking firearms. Once these more traditional firearms are heavily regulated then the it is on to the next segment of firearm to be regulated or be deemed illegal.

For example. An AR-15 is a civilian model of the military's M-16. It looks like an M-16 but is changed so that it is a legal SEMI-AUTOMATIC firearm. Now the reasons these firearms are popular, yet less traditional looking, are that they are extremely reliable, tough and accurate. The reason these are this way is from years of improvement and refinement from both military and private civillian gunsmiths. It is basic evolution of technology from a military application to a civilian one that produces a tool or firearm that is one of the best in the world.

Here's another example. Relate evolution of military technology to the new tracking systems of today. When GPS was first introduced to the civillian population it was made less accurate, on purpose, so that it could not be used in certain types of guidance systems. Since then it has evolved and been improved to the great technology that it is today.

Two years ago you could not buy a used top of the line radio telemetry tracking system for less than $500. Now with the introduction of GPS technology, a product evolved from a military application, just about any used radio telemtry tracker can be bought for 25 percent of what they were new. Look in the classifieds on this board. These ads receive almost no traffic unless the guy is almost giving it away. Why are these systems for sale? Because the seller want to upgrade to the new, better, less tradiditional technology.

So my question to those who support supossed "ASSAULT WEAPON" bans, but not banning of other tradidtional looking firearms do you really think this is possible? Is trying to penalize sombody for using a tool or firearm that is less traditional, more advanced or better technology really something that should be controlled at the expense of your rights as an American?

I say NO leave my guns alone!!!

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Posted by Phantom on 06-07-2009 08:21 PM:

ransom1 and ysudep2

if you two don't like assault rifles or full automatic machineguns just don't spend your money on them.but that does not give either of you or anyone else that matter the right to stop someone who does want one or more of them from owning them.there are a few predator rifles built on the assault rifle platfomr that has become popular with predator hunters as well as some being chambered for big game cartridges coming out if not already out.
are you two really stupid enough to believe if they was banned that would stop the crooks from having them and would stop crime? all a ban would do is punish the law abiding people.but I guess you two and others like you really don't give a rats ass about that though since you think they should be banned.

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Posted by liberalcreek on 06-07-2009 08:41 PM:

Re: Re: common sence

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Originally posted by ysudep2
I have to agree with this, I would have no problem with assauly rifles and full auto guns being banned. As long as common sense is used to hold up after that. Thats were the problem would lie, but if I had to vote on it. I would vote against those 2 types of weapons!


They have done voted and according to the last Assault weapons ban most calibers and guns we hunt with would have been classified as "assault weapons". Even that little Nylon 66 or Ruger 10/22 would have been ILLEGAL under the new "ban".

Some of you folks need to open your eyes and educate yourself and quit being so gullible.
An Assault weapon to the Democrats include most of the guns in your closet.

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Posted by ransom1 on 06-07-2009 09:03 PM:

ok then tell me this

just where do you think the line should be drawn,should it be drawn with weapons of mass distruction for those who have the money to buy one,just you tell me where it should be drawn,im interested to know,im not a liberal but hey i do have some common sence.


Posted by liberalcreek on 06-07-2009 09:16 PM:

Re: ok then tell me this

quote:
Originally posted by ransom1
just where do you think the line should be drawn,should it be drawn with weapons of mass distruction for those who have the money to buy one,just you tell me where it should be drawn,im interested to know,im not a liberal but hey i do have some common sence.


Common senSe says to follow the guidelines set forth by our founding fathers and follow the 2nd amendment like it is written.

What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand.

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Posted by ransom1 on 06-07-2009 09:39 PM:

ok liberal creek

so what your saying is if we have a religion that asks for human sacrifise then we shouldnt infringe.i think not common sence should step in,hmmmmmm,that wasnt hard.


Posted by T.Beyer on 06-07-2009 09:41 PM:

Proof that common sense is not so common.

These idiots cannot balance a budget. If the budget says you have x amount of money, then COMMON SENSE says you do not spend y amount.

They can't get the simple things right.

To me common sense says they can take Your guns, but they had better leave mine alone.

I have an idea, if you think Gun bans are ok, then THROW YOURS out in the front yard and let em come around and pick them up. I'll keep mine thank you.

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Posted by ransom1 on 06-07-2009 09:45 PM:

uhhhhhh did i go to sleep,i said i support the ban of some types of guns,lol,man oh man.


Posted by T.Beyer on 06-07-2009 09:51 PM:

Eventually those bans that only take some guns will eventually lead to all guns being taken.

Look at how things started, and they continually take more and more. Eventually sling shots will be outlawed.



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Posted by ransom1 on 06-07-2009 10:01 PM:

hmmmmm

im 46 and im still using the same kind of guns to hunt with that was in 1970 that i began hunting with,yes i beleive we should keep our poloticians in check but lets not go leaft field.


Posted by T.Beyer on 06-07-2009 10:14 PM:

Re: hmmmmm

quote:
Originally posted by ransom1
im 46 and im still using the same kind of guns to hunt with that was in 1970 that i began hunting with,yes i beleive we should keep our poloticians in check but lets not go leaft field.


I am not out in left field. We'll agree to disagree then I guess.


Things like these guns bans get passed in the guise of doing the regular Joe a favor, protecting him from himself.

You and I are both adults. I do not come to your house and tell you how to run your home, why would I want you at my home telling me how to run mine?

Common sense says, unless you break a law using a weapon, then you are entitled by the 2nd amendment to own that gun. Why do we need to Legislate EVERYTHING?

If I were to say drive too fast in my 2003 Gray Dodge Ram, and run a stop sign, and kill some poor soul, does that mean that every 2003 Gray Dodge Ram should be outlawed? No the person who was irresponsible should be punished, not every person who owns that particular make of vehicle.

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Posted by robgregory on 06-07-2009 10:15 PM:

Yeah,

let's be just like the citizens of the Soviet Union.Are you insane!!!!

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Posted by ransom1 on 06-07-2009 10:28 PM:

gov

i personally like the fact that the government is keeping track of thsome of theres weapons,some of the people getting them are idiots,agree to disagree i suppose.


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