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Posted by Private101 on 03-25-2009 03:46 AM:

What do you expect out of a guide?

I was just wondering of what everyone expects out of a guide on a comp hunt? I have recently been asked to guide a big competition hunt…and never been on this side of the fence before. I want to know what is expected of me. Thanks


Posted by James Christie on 03-25-2009 03:50 AM:

TO TAKE THE CAST WHERE THEY WILL TREE COON!!!!!!! PROBELY DONT HAVE THAT PROBLEM UP THERE THOUGH....

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Posted by Jack Bingham on 03-25-2009 03:56 AM:

1. take the cast to ground you have permision on
2. make sure dogs will be safe hwy's ect.
3. have coon to tree
4. explain the terain to the cast before dogs are turned loose

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Posted by jek22 on 03-25-2009 03:57 AM:

safety for the dogs and coon!


Posted by on 03-25-2009 04:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Bingham
1. take the cast to ground you have permision on
2. make sure dogs will be safe hwy's ect.
3. have coon to tree
4. explain the terain to the cast before dogs are turned loose



5. assist in recovering all dogs at the end of the night to the best of your ability.


Bottom line, put the dogs and hunters somewhere where they'll be safe and have an opportunity to tree some coon. Help them all return safely to the clubhouse at the end of the night.


Posted by ringtail on 03-25-2009 04:11 AM:

1) have permission to hunt
2) go where coon are
3) away from major highways

(optional)

4) bring portable gas grill
5) bring cooler full of (soft) drinks on ice
6) if cast prefer steaks, DON'T bring hot dogs!!!!!!

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Posted by MikeO on 03-25-2009 04:20 AM:

guide me to coon heaven where i can score 2000 plus points and win, easy walking, give me a ride and provide me with food and beverages.

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Posted by joseph mcdonald on 03-25-2009 04:20 AM:

I'm going to insert #7 here

7. Stay with cast until hunt is over and get them back to club, or at least give them directions back to club.


Posted by NiteRageLink on 03-25-2009 06:07 AM:

All of the above and I will add
#8 Inform the property owners that you will be guiding a cast there.
#9 Make sure you are hunting an area big enough to make enough drops to complete the hunt.
#10 If you have a variety of places to hunt, try to pick the places that will provide the best hunting but also the ones that will give you enough time to finish the hunt and get back to the club with the cast to return the score card in on time.


Posted by m marcure on 03-25-2009 08:54 AM:

Let them know that you will provide all that they ask as long as they are 1) packing a Honest coondog.Not a babbler, a fighter,one that will run offgame or a bunch of slick trees. 2)they will strike and tree their dog honestly.Not pitch it if they think they can. 3)Minus their dog when they've known its moved off the tree or they jumped the gun and struck or treed it to soon.4) Will take their minus on a slick tree and not try circle it cause there a woodpecker hole or just trying not to take the minus they deserve. 5) That the judge has the balls to make the hard calls and be honest on himself and the rest of the cast for the integrity of everyone at the hunt not just his cast. 6) They act like sportsmen. You will be cooking some steaks more times than not. Yet some people will try to get away with things if they can. It's competition, yet if you can't win honestly does your dog really deserve a C.W.??


Posted by coon dawg on 03-25-2009 11:29 AM:

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...first and foremost........SAFETY.............for both hounds and hunters..........this means permission on plenty of land........no hard roads with traffic nearby..........no other foreseeable problems............helps if ya have a bunch of coons, too...........lolol................the late cast in the Comer, Georgia pro/am PKC hunt last Saturday was on my land.....they treed 6 and seen 4...........congrats to Brian Gilley for winnin' it...with his blue dog Rickey Bobby..........lolol

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Posted by Dan Morris on 03-25-2009 01:12 PM:

since you all are down on guides and setting forth all that is expected out of them.........how about listing what the guides expect out of the rest of the cast !?

I just like if see how you fellers know how to wear the other boot !!! LOL

i know i get stuck carrying the card and guiding more than than most.

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Posted by coon dawg on 03-25-2009 01:31 PM:

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan Morris
since you all are down on guides and setting forth all that is expected out of them.........how about listing what the guides expect out of the rest of the cast !?

I just like if see how you fellers know how to wear the other boot !!! LOL

i know i get stuck carrying the card and guiding more than than most.

...................you get stuck carrying the card most of the time..........it usually means you're an honest man that knows the rules, that other hunters respect... .be proud of it, bud.......

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Posted by tennjed9 on 03-25-2009 02:23 PM:

I've guided some. Like many others have said, find a safe place for the dogs, try to get them in coons, and enough land to allow the dogs to spread out if they choose. I speak when I spoken to, and don't say alot. Some casts are pretty intense and its best to just go along and not say much. Also, try to stay out of any controversy. I try to stay back about 20 yds away from the cast, but in hearing range in case they ask a question. That's what I've done, but some might have other ways of doing it. I also help in rounding up the dogs after the hunt is over, and getting the hunters back to the club. Honestly though, most people have the GPS units now and can get themselves about anywhere they want anymore.


Posted by Joey Donelson on 03-25-2009 04:28 PM:

I try to do my best for hunters when I guide on a cast, but honestly what I expect a guide to do is get me to a place I can hunt safely and I'll take care of the rest. I don't need or expect a babysitter.


Posted by James200 on 03-25-2009 05:42 PM:

Get us to a place/places where you have permission.Most of all guide where there are coon or don't guide at all.
We'll find our way back to club house/home if after hunt we have to find our hound...if guide decides to stay thats a plus.

We went to walker days this past weekend at Ada.The guide took us to a place...the only place he had to hunt...hunted it 2 hours...our dog treed the only coon scored...pitiful...just pitiful....didn't bother with going back saturday night...drove the same distance...73 mile in apposite direction to Beggs for a pkc hunt...had a better time and scored on several coon.


Posted by Cody Carroll on 03-25-2009 07:09 PM:

everybody keeps sayin put them in coons. its nice but they aint always movin. i have had guides at the major hunts that are supposed to have alot of coon an tree one or not even make a tree all night. but you cant blame them. so buddy just make an honest attempt an thats all they can ask for.

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Posted by Coon Commander on 03-26-2009 12:26 AM:

KNOW the woods, area and roads around the area you are hunting,,,,,VERY important. You should guide somewhere you hunt often enough that you know what is in there: water, streams, swamps, hills, cliffs, yarddogs, hotwires, caves, livestock, etc, etc
Dont take a cast to somewhere that you aint familiar with period,,,,you are a GUIDE!
Best wishes guiding and hope all turns out good.......


Posted by Shelby D. Sawyers on 03-26-2009 12:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ringtail
1) have permission to hunt
2) go where coon are
3) away from major highways

(optional)

4) bring portable gas grill
5) bring cooler full of (soft) drinks on ice
6) if cast prefer steaks, DON'T bring hot dogs!!!!!!



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