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Posted by on 01-31-2009 05:48 AM:

Two different type of tapeworms?

Are there two different types of tapeworms, and if so, do I need two different types of wormers? The local vet said there was only one type of tapeworm, but I see references all the time about tapeworms, and then the 'flea tapeworm'...and does panacur take care of all worms but heartworms or not?

Posted by Bill(Chew) on 01-31-2009 06:49 AM:

My understanding is that there are 5 different type of tape worms. Panacure kills 3 of the different types.

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Posted by AnnieP on 01-31-2009 07:51 AM:

I've seen 2 different types but like Bill said, there are more. Lots more. If my vet didn't know there were more than one kind, I think I'd be looking for a different vet.

Praziquantel (Droncit) will get them all. That's why I use Equimax to worm with. Cucumber tapes were hard to get rid of. Funny looking, though. Fresh segments looked like little black-headed maggots. Dried, they looked a lot like cucumber seeds. Guess that's why they're called cucumber tapes.

Annie

Posted by Oak Ridge on 01-31-2009 10:16 AM:

You know what you call a vet that graduated at the bottom of their class???????

You call em' "Doc".....

If your vet told you that there was only one specie of tapeworm that affects dogs.....Time to get another vet.

http://thecoonden.com/dog-health/do...-treatment.html

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Posted by Mike Donaldson on 01-31-2009 01:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Oak Ridge
You know what you call a vet that graduated at the bottom of their class???????

You call em' "Doc".....

If your vet told you that there was only one specie of tapeworm that affects dogs.....Time to get another vet.

http://thecoonden.com/dog-health/do...-treatment.html

That's good info on your site, Joe. Let me know if you find a inexpensive form of Praziquantel. Tradewinds and D-worm have gotten to the point you could almost go to the vet and get a Drontal-plus. The hounds don't get tapes bad, but my house dog and Border Collie are mousers and they seem to keep them.

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Posted by on 01-31-2009 02:30 PM:

tell

me about Equimax if you would...its in a paste form isnt it, and its a horse wormer? How much would you give a dog? We have a 10lb dog, two 20lb dogs, a 50lb and a 100lb dog...

Posted by Mac1st on 01-31-2009 04:22 PM:

If you are looking for cheaper wormers and antibiotics check out www.thomasvetdrug.com

Posted by AnnieP on 01-31-2009 04:29 PM:

Re: tell

quote:
Originally posted by Blue Style
me about Equimax if you would...its in a paste form isnt it, and its a horse wormer? How much would you give a dog? We have a 10lb dog, two 20lb dogs, a 50lb and a 100lb dog...

It's ivermectin and praziquantel. I asked my vet about using it and he said it would work and work well. 1cc per 60 pounds. That would be 2 notches on the plunger of a 6 cc tube. I don't know if it comes in larger tubes. I only ever bought the 6 cc ones. Do NOT use regular ivermectin for HW prevention the month you give this. It has enough ivermectin to do the job. According to my vet, if I wanted to use this every month for HW prevention and all around worming, I could.

The biggest problem would be trying to dose dogs smaller than 30 pounds. I only have 1 little dog (less than 15 pounds) and I usually just bite the bullet and get Droncit from my vet for him rather than risk overdosing him. It's not so much for a small dog.

Or you could get some praziquantel at a pet store like PetCo or PetsMart if you have one in your area. I don't know if that would be any less expensive than getting it at a vet's or not but they have it in smaller doses for your little ones.

Hope that helps.

Annie

Posted by on 01-31-2009 04:35 PM:

annie

thanks a lot, I will probably be getting some equimax...

Posted by burdette on 02-02-2009 10:52 PM:

i only know of 3 types of tapeworms and zimectin gold from tsc will kill them all.

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 02-03-2009 01:16 AM:

Okay....

I realize that there are folks on here that "do it all the time", but smokers "do it all the time", and that doesn't make it a good idea!

Let's break down the ingredients in a tube of Zimecterin Gold.

Each tube of ZG contains 567mg of praziquantel and 113.8mg of ivermectin

If you give your dog enough of this paste to take care of the tapeworms (recommended dose is 3 to 3.5 mg/pound) you would also be giving it six times the recommended dose of ivermectin at the same time.

Now consider this...ZG is 1.55% ivermectin.

Equimax is 1.78% ivermectin, and 14.03% praziquantel. Each syringe contains 120.1 mg of ivermectin and 897.6 mg of praziquantel

If you were to give your dog the recommended dosage of praziquantel from this tube, you would still be giving the dog six times the recommended dose of ivermectin

The LD50 (lethal dose in 50% of the test animals given overdoses) of ivermectin is between 5 to 25 mg/kg, or 2.5 to 12.5 mg/pound.

Just something to think about....

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Posted by joseph mcdonald on 02-03-2009 04:02 PM:

Thank God , Would some one get Oak Ridge a beer or whatever he wants. The only guy on this post makin any sense. Equimax wont get em,with a safe dose.

Posted by burdette on 02-03-2009 05:12 PM:

zimectin gold i just give a very small amount once a week for 3 weeks and it clears them right up. ive never killed a dog yet with ivermectin and ive had a bunch.

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