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Posted by rabbitman85 on 01-28-2009 12:01 AM:

pup and possums

Im kinda in a delima and need some advice. i have about a nine or 10 month old walker male. Ive been taking him hunting every night for the past few weeks. Hes never seen a live coon and not that many dead ones for that matter but he is striking and runing a track a right good ways on his own but hasnt made it to a tree by hisself yet. He has ran all the way and locked down on a tree with other dogs but will not stay on it if there isnt a coon in it, he trys to keep goin and hell aventually loose it. Now I said all that to ask, Last night for the first time he treed a possum. After that i turned him loose again and he treed another one. I dont no whether to discipline him or not. I hate to cause hes not a finished dog by no means and I dont want him to stop staying on a tree cause he thinks im gonna beat him but i dont want to wait to long and make a possum dog out of him. Any kind of input from some of you veterans will be a big help. Thanks matt lewis

Posted by HOBO on 01-28-2009 12:08 AM:

I'd put the leash on him and fuss at him and get out of there FAST. Once he trees a couple of coons alone and then if he trees a possum I'd get after him a lil harder.

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Posted by rabbitman85 on 01-28-2009 03:32 AM:

yea that pretty much what I did with him and what I figured I would do, I just do no alot about trainin coondogs. Ive hunted along time but this is the first pup ive tried to train that even put its nose to the dirt, lol. I have some junk thats for sure.

Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 01-28-2009 03:42 AM:

possums usually dont climb very high.he can smell and
even see them nothing wrong with it.try turning some
coons loose in front of him take a stick beat on the tree
what ever it takes.

Posted by rabbitman85 on 01-28-2009 11:12 PM:

yea he was lookin dead at both of them last night, they werent but about 7 foot high on trees no bigger than your pinkie finger. Suprised the trees werent bent over to the ground lol.

Posted by skiesthalimit on 01-30-2009 02:31 AM:

scent

buy some possum scent n before u go out huntin soak a rag or something u can fasten 2 his collar cut him out should have no problem do repeatedly till hes gettin coon

Posted by Ron Brickles on 01-30-2009 03:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by HOBO
I'd put the leash on him and fuss at him and get out of there FAST. Once he trees a couple of coons alone and then if he trees a possum I'd get after him a lil harder.

GOOD ADVICE

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Posted by truebluefordman on 01-30-2009 03:24 AM:

i came from the old school and i know i will catch crap for this but .. i would pet him up.. you can break him off them latter. you want him to tree and that is the hardest part of it all.. when he is treeing every time out then work on the this is ok and this is not thing.. but the main thing is at this point dont scold him at the tree just yet.

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Posted by burdette on 01-30-2009 03:26 AM:

quote:
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I'd put the leash on him and fuss at him and get out of there FAST. Once he trees a couple of coons alone and then if he trees a possum I'd get after him a lil harder.

I AGREE

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 01-30-2009 03:34 AM:

if this dog has seen and ran coon already, i would get his mind off of possums as quick as possible..just don't do it at a tree..turn him out on a possum out in a field somewhere where it can't climb a tree..when he grabs it light him up or knock him to the ground..

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Posted by forumsman on 01-30-2009 04:21 AM:

do like hobo said

after you shoot out a few coon to him kick his butt if he trees a possum and get harder every time he trees one

Posted by hopm on 01-30-2009 04:27 AM:

Got to know what to do before you can stop doing what not to do.

I'm with Trueblue get that pup treeing on his own with confidence. When he finds out you don't want nothing but coon he will tree nothing but coon.

Posted by brindle_boone on 01-30-2009 06:11 AM:

I agree with HOBO & Burdette on this one.....

whatever you do NEVER shoot the pooum down to him and hit him with it.....I would just fuss over it and let him now it is wrong....

what I like to do is use a skinny switch/twig. At his age I wouldn't though....once he finds that interest in coons It most likely won't be any problem because coons are more fun....

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Posted by brindle_boone on 01-30-2009 06:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truebluefordman
i came from the old school and i know i will catch crap for this but .. i would pet him up.. you can break him off them latter. you want him to tree and that is the hardest part of it all.. when he is treeing every time out then work on the this is ok and this is not thing.. but the main thing is at this point dont scold him at the tree just yet.

If the dog has a lot of natural tree power I wouldn't suggest this only because In MANY instances, I have seen it lead to making a dog "ouchy" at the tree with other dogs. They are just so excited they start grabbing anything with in reach, even if it becomes your hand.....

Posted by Timsdogs on 02-01-2009 01:01 AM:

possum cure.

Get a possum put it in a cage or trap,get yourself a shock collar and use it!make that dog run the other way when he smells or sees a possum.shocking is alot safer than wipping and beating a dog plus he doesn't know your the one shocking him!whipping and beating could turn him timmid especially doing it while hunting him.

Posted by red clay on 02-01-2009 02:28 AM:

take a electric fence charger make about a 24-30 inch circle with the wire about 6 inches of the ground. put a fresh killed possum in the circle. turn the dog out where he can find it on his own preferably in a large fenced in yard. do this a few times over a couple months he wont mess with them any more. will work for deer too

Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 02-01-2009 03:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitman85
yea he was lookin dead at both of them last night, they werent but about 7 foot high on trees no bigger than your pinkie finger. Suprised the trees werent bent over to the ground lol.

right,you guys are like us with a slim coon population making
it more difficult 2 get a pup going this time of the yr with the
frost on and everything.i would ride the rds dump out on
some and knock them out to him.

Posted by mjflores on 02-01-2009 03:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HOBO
I'd put the leash on him and fuss at him and get out of there FAST. Once he trees a couple of coons alone and then if he trees a possum I'd get after him a lil harder.

My thoughts too

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Posted by Coon Commander on 02-02-2009 01:27 AM:

Re: possum cure.

quote:
Originally posted by Timsdogs
Get a possum put it in a cage or trap,get yourself a shock collar and use it!make that dog run the other way when he smells or sees a possum.shocking is alot safer than wipping and beating a dog plus he doesn't know your the one shocking him!whipping and beating could turn him timmid especially doing it while hunting him.

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Posted by PlottChaser on 02-02-2009 11:13 PM:

Re: possum cure.

quote:
Originally posted by Timsdogs
Get a possum put it in a cage or trap,get yourself a shock collar and use it!make that dog run the other way when he smells or sees a possum.shocking is alot safer than wipping and beating a dog plus he doesn't know your the one shocking him!whipping and beating could turn him timmid especially doing it while hunting him.

good advice, he'll think the possum has a mean bite and won't want anything to do with it. but I take it one step further and when you see he's even thinking about grabbing that possum shock him. make it so the thought doesn't even cross his mind.

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Posted by rabbitman85 on 02-02-2009 11:36 PM:

He hasnt done it anymore since that night, not saying he wont do it again but maybe hes got it all out of his system.

Posted by HOBO on 02-03-2009 12:18 AM:

LOL

I wouldn't hold my breath....

Good luck with him.

Posted by rabbitman85 on 02-03-2009 03:35 AM:

Yea I said that and he done it tonight lol.

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