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Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-02-2008 12:30 AM:

Good dogs all over the Nation

I have no doubt that up North there are alot of great dogs. Yet I know for a fact, by expeirence it is easier to tree coons up North due to the amount of coons. I challenge any hunter from the North to come to Oklahoma, Arkansas, or Texas and hunt with a great dog down here. I am not going to say that the southern dog will beat the brakes off a Northern dog, but I believe that any dog that can Grand Night in These three states will be a great dog anywhere as where a Northern dog may have trouble in being very competitive down here. Id say the best way is to possibly have a qualifing hunt in the Northern States and take the top four dogs from up there and the top four dogs from down here and find out.

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Posted by aaron moorehead on 12-02-2008 12:36 AM:

coons

try north ga we have hardly any coons.


Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-02-2008 12:41 AM:

coons

Im mainley directing "North" to places like Indiana, Ohio, New York, Pa, and Illinois its to easy to tree coons up there.

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Posted by matazuba on 12-02-2008 12:45 AM:

try it in south carolina,thick cut downs,beaver pounds and lets not forget them swamps.


Posted by burdette on 12-02-2008 12:47 AM:

HECK ALOT OF THE DOGS IN THE HUNTS UP HERE CANT TREE COON BY THEMSELVES EVEN IN THESE THICK COON LOL.

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Posted by HOBO on 12-02-2008 12:48 AM:

Why do you guys go on and on and on and on about this??? if your happy with what you hunt and the other guy is happy with what he hunts WHO CARES??????????????

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Posted by Danny Glista on 12-02-2008 01:02 AM:

It depends on a hounds drive!!

If a hound that is hunted in the north has the drive to go until treed I think he can do the same in the states that you mentioned!! In reality it comes down to drive in your area to where a hound has to go find a single track how ever far he has to go and tree it!! In our area a hound has to have brains to be able to unravel a bunch of tracks criss crossing themselves , hot or cold and put a coon up a tree a biggest % of the time!! It's a lot easier to run a single track and put an end to it than it is to go through a maze of tracks and find the right tree!! One track leading to a tree and the coon climbs!! No problem!! I'm in!! Ohio!! Give us northen boys a break!! LOL

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Posted by Tim Trone on 12-02-2008 01:13 AM:

you want something hard bring it to florida


Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-02-2008 01:31 AM:

coons

I like the discussion here. Makes it all worth while as long as nobody gets mad. Opinions are what makes coonhunting worth sitting and talking to everyone about. And maybe us Southern or central so to speak boys need to come up North and do a little dog trainin'!!! lol

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Posted by BRYAN J on 12-02-2008 01:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by HOBO
Why do you guys go on and on and on and on about this??? if your happy with what you hunt and the other guy is happy with what he hunts WHO CARES??????????????


Totally agreed!

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Posted by Paul Jones on 12-02-2008 01:46 AM:

I just hunted on the missori arkansas boarder and saw alot of coon compared to central ny , but my dog looked like crap down there,i blamed it on the 16hr ride ,but maybe there harder to tree down there, but there wasn't a lack of coon. i think each state has its good areas and bad .


Posted by heckler on 12-02-2008 02:04 AM:

For all those that haven't hunted in Coldwater, MI, make sure you wear gloves, don't touch nothing, and make sure your bladder is empty..............makes for a long miserable ride home back to FL


Posted by Danny Glista on 12-02-2008 02:05 AM:

NEOKHUNTER

You bring up a very interesting point but it can go both ways and I know this for a fact!! I purchased a top hound from Al. that had won in UKC and PKC in the south and she was a Grnite and Silver ch. Blue dog owned buy a very respective breeder when I purchased her. Just a little over $2000 to make gold!! She was and still is a top hound! She has the drive to tree coon anywhere!!When I brang her here to the north she looked bad, but not for too long!! She had to adjust to having all the track on the ground and finding the right tree! If you took a weekend and hauled her north to a hunt, you would get beat 90% of the time!! To be honest with ya, at one point I wanted to give her away because she just couldn't get the job done right in the north so called easy coon treeing country!! Long story short she did adjust and won 4 of her last 4 cast in PKC!! Now this female had been in the top 16 in Al. state race 4 years and had world and truck tickets won also!! Ya see, hounds that have it bred in them just have to adjust!! Some don't!! Waiting for your response!! Thanks, Danny G. PS!! The hound, Grnite ch. PKC Sch. Crosby's Blue Snooter!! I still own her today!! Real nice hound that is a great reproducer!!

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 12-02-2008 02:24 AM:

rowdy won major hunts in 7 difference st.why do you guys thank
coon smell any differnts from st to st


Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-02-2008 02:27 AM:

Reply

I agree with you 100%. DOgs that are bred to tree coons are most of the time going to tree coons. And the difference in country, number of coons play a huge factor in the style a dog hunts. I went to Indiana and hunted for 3 hours and treed 11 singles and 3 doubles. Our dogs were going crazy up there in coon haven. I have never done that in Oklahoma. So I would have to say I agree that the difference in country is Id say 85% of the ability a dog has to tree a coon anywhere. Also I have to point out that dogs that are Smokey River or Neosho River or Briar Creek bred are all originating down here. What is your views on that?

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Posted by scott shaw on 12-02-2008 02:28 AM:

I've never hunted in Oklahoma, but have hunted in a lot of
other States Including Florida and Arkansaw and never had
a dog have any trouble treeing coons any where I've been.
I have had dogs from Alabama, Arkansaw, and Missouri that
I gave at least two months hunting that just couldn't tree
coons in Wisconsin. The one from Alabama went to Ohio after
I brought him back and the guy called me to see why I brought
him back because in Ohio he was a coon treeing machine. Why
he could do it in Ohio and not Wisconsin I don't know!!

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Posted by Maniac on 12-02-2008 02:32 AM:

Re: Good dogs all over the Nation

quote:
Originally posted by NEOKHUNTER
I have no doubt that up North there are alot of great dogs. Yet I know for a fact, by expeirence it is easier to tree coons up North due to the amount of coons. I challenge any hunter from the North to come to Oklahoma, Arkansas, or Texas and hunt with a great dog down here. I am not going to say that the southern dog will beat the brakes off a Northern dog, but I believe that any dog that can Grand Night in These three states will be a great dog anywhere as where a Northern dog may have trouble in being very competitive down here. Id say the best way is to possibly have a qualifing hunt in the Northern States and take the top four dogs from up there and the top four dogs from down here and find out.
IM NOT BASHING YOU. BUT BRING YOUR BEST TO INDIANA RIGHT NOW AND HUNT IN THIS SNOW THEN IF YOU CAN TREE A COON . THEN YOU WILL KNOW IF YOU HAVE A COON DOG. AND ARKANSAS IS GOT PLENETY OF RACOONS. I WOULD LOVE TO COME TO OKLAHOMA BUT IT TAKES THE GREEN TO GO ANY WHERE SO I GEUSSE I WILL STAY HERE. IF I HAD THE GREEN I WOULDNT BE AFRAID TO TAKE MY HOUND TO ANY STATE. THERE JUST DOGS THEY ALL MAKE MISTAKES I DONT CARE WHAT STATE YOU HUNT THEM IN.

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Posted by Cornwallis on 12-02-2008 02:43 AM:

I like to take my northern dogs south to test them, they keep treeing coons everywhere so this year we are headed to Cuba. anyone else wanna go?


Posted by tanner1979 on 12-02-2008 02:44 AM:

NEOKHUNTER, they have done just what you want. They call it the world hunt. Three of the four dogs in the final were from the north and the other was from W.V and some say that is the north. Look at the dogs that make the final in all the world hunts the dogs from the north have more than held their own year after year. I have hunted all the states you talked about and can tell you first hand the dogs are no better than up north. We have 8 in. of snow on the ground here bring your best and lets see what it can do. My dogs will tree coons in this weather. Half of our season is in this kind of weather. The seasons in the south is a cake walk when you look at the two. Your weather is great down there when you look at ours. I have had many dogs from the south and most of them are NOT the dog here that they are in the south. Some of them do come around but most never make the grade up here that they do down south.


Posted by Maniac on 12-02-2008 02:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by tanner1979
NEOKHUNTER, they have done just what you want. They call it the world hunt. Three of the four dogs in the final were from the north and the other was from W.V and some say that is the north. Look at the dogs that make the final in all the world hunts the dogs from the north have more than held their own year after year. I have hunted all the states you talked about and can tell you first hand the dogs are no better than up north. We have 8 in. of snow on the ground here bring your best and lets see what it can do. My dogs will tree coons in this weather. Half of our season is in this kind of weather. The seasons in the south is a cake walk when you look at the two. Your weather is great down there when you look at ours. I have had many dogs from the south and most of them are NOT the dog here that they are in the south. Some of them do come around but most never make the grade up here that they do down south.
VERY GOOD POST

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Posted by Maniac on 12-02-2008 02:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cornwallis
I like to take my northern dogs south to test them, they keep treeing coons everywhere so this year we are headed to Cuba. anyone else wanna go?
MAN I WISH I WAS RICH. MY HOME WOULD BE ON THE ROAD HUNTING. LIVEING IN A RV .

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Posted by Danny Glista on 12-02-2008 03:06 AM:

Guys!!

NEOKHUNTER has a good post going here!! Maybe we could all share some of what we have been through and learn a little!! I would some day like to pack up a hound and head to the battle and see what hapens!! Good post so far, let us not get off topic!!

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Posted by rance56 on 12-02-2008 03:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by scott shaw
I've never hunted in Oklahoma, but have hunted in a lot of
other States Including Florida and Arkansaw and never had
a dog have any trouble treeing coons any where I've been.
I have had dogs from Alabama, Arkansaw, and Missouri that
I gave at least two months hunting that just couldn't tree
coons in Wisconsin. The one from Alabama went to Ohio after
I brought him back and the guy called me to see why I brought
him back because in Ohio he was a coon treeing machine. Why
he could do it in Ohio and not Wisconsin I don't know!!



how tough was the hunting in tenn?

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Posted by BRYAN J on 12-02-2008 04:02 AM:

Ive listened to some of the ole timers talk about the hunting in Tn. Id love to hunt the mountains there to see what its like. Better have a loud hound I bet!

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Posted by nate m on 12-02-2008 04:54 AM:

every body jump in your truck and come on up .when were done treeing them bandits. well go ice fishing. dont forget your cold weather gear 9 above rite now. with a 25 mile an hour wind. brr I LOVE WINTER. only 7 months till spring.

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