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To Vizsla or to Coonhound?

After months of looking for a Vizsla and coming up with the feeling that the breeders are more
high-strung than the dogs, we are giving up.

Sure, we arranged our lives around having a Vizsla by moving to Colorado and getting different jobs,
but we can not endure the Bush-like interrogation process and the European pricing any longer.

Now we come across the Redbone Coonhound and they appears to have all that we loved in the
Vizsla and more. We are looking for a small dog with that extremely short coat and a good
temperament.

What is the catch with this breed? They appear to be perfect, but perhaps the web info is not up to
speed or the photos make them appear smaller and more short haired than they are?

Also, locating a Redbone breeder online has been difficult. Anyone know these two breeds? Can you
help us with the comparison and what to expect?

Thanks so much!

Visla'a are sight hounds. Redbones are scent hounds.

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bruce ordway

Interesting

So if we were interested in activities not having to do with hunting the differences might be minimal?

I hear the Redbones are beautiful and smart dogs, but they can hunt neighborhood cats whereas the V would simply point at them. This might be another factor having to do with sight and smell with more practical inport.

Thanks.

a friend of mine has both a redbone and a v. he uses the redbone to coon hunt with and when he does get loose from his kennel on occassions he has no problem with him but his viszla is a whole nother story. my friend owns pigs goats cattle and chickens. and that viszla has chased or killed just about every type of live stock he owns. this dogs saving grace is he is without a doubt very loyal and one heck of a guard dog. i visit every weekend and it never fails he will run to the truck bark growl and make for sure i dont get out until my friend tells him its ok once this has taken place the dog is as friendly as any you could ask for but make no mistake he would bite me if i got out without his masters approval. ive also heard of people who own red bones as pets and they too are very loyal and will let you know if anyone comes around your home

Lots of info here

I reccommend going here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redbones/?yguid=74559715

and joining this group. It's made up of mostly Redbone hound owners. There are a few hunters and breeders on there, but mostly just pet owners. I think you'll get all the information you'd like there.

Please tell me that there is not one of them yahoo whoo yahhs for blueticks. It would break my heart to hear about blue Fifi with pink ribbons in its ears finally learned how to catch a frisbee. All dogs are ultimately pets and should be treated as such, there is just something twisted about the thought of yet another hunting breed sleeping on the couch of seinfelds apartment

Seriously: the thought of a couple lawyers in Boston or Las Angeles deciding that they like the looks of a hound and then getting a couple, breeding them and selling PR bred puppies scares me. I can hear it now ohh yea they come from champion stock couple guys in Michigan I forget their names and a couple guys in Oklahoma..... can't rember their names either, ohh and that dog in Illinois all have champion dogs in the pedigree. These should make good house pets and are easilly crate trained. They might drool a little but you'll learn to live with that. If they bark too much or kill your cat take em to the pound there are plenty of rescue groups out there. That will be $500 please.

I agree. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they got walkers though. If you want a pet get a poodle or something but leave the few true working breeds alone.

Coonhounds as pets

Well, most of the pet owners I know don't breed. A few of them did buy their puppies from breeders, but most of them were rescued from shelters. What would you suggest we do with the dogs that aren't good hunting material?

And I hate to tell you this, but there is a Yahoo group for Blueticks. It's a rescue list for all the Blueticks that end up in shelters.

I know of people who keep just about every breed of Coonhound as pets. I have Plotts, Walkers, a Redbone and a little B&T mix here. They're pets, not hunting dogs. All of them were rescued and none of them are capable of breeding any more.

With the huge numbers of Coonhounds of every breed ending up in shelters, some of us who love the dogs do what we can to keep them from being killed in those shelters. They do make wonderful pets.

I understand your post and empathize with you. I even participated in a bluetick rescue group for a while. Unfortuneately there is a necessity for rescue groups and what they do is a noble cause (allthough a little overzelous at times).

Now please understand mine.

Understanding Points

Of course I understand your point. Personally, I would never buy a puppy from a breeder because I have no intention of breeding or hunting. I simply deal with the cast offs. They're good enough for me. And I doubt a breeder of any caliber would sell to me, either. I've heard of breeders who won't sell to non-hunting homes.

What you're talking about though, can only be handled BY the breeders. If the people who breed the working dogs aren't careful who they sell to, what you're talking about can and will happen if there's enough money in it. If the breeders who sell to pet homes would do it on a spay/neuter contract basis (they don't get the papers until the breeder gets proof of it), what you're talking about won't happen.

But you and I both know there are some "breeders" out there who will sell a pup or two to just anybody who walks up and hands them the money. I'm not saying anybody on here would do that, but we all know it happens. If every breeder was as responsible as some on this board, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

If you have checked into the Vizsla breed and really like them a redbone will not take their place.That would be like asking a treeingwalker to take an english pointers place,bred to be different in actions,temperment,looks,and ways.Vizslas are bred to hunt for the feathered game,that means hunting close,lots of contact with the human.Redbones are for fur bearing game , scent,follow a long way ,with out much human contact. The only thing that they are is the same color and size.Get a pet not a hunting dog...

If you are gonna get a Coonhound...

You should really consider giving it a chance to do what it was born to do....HUNT.

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Sleepy Hollow Black & Tans

I own a Viszla. Before that I owned 2 Mountain Curs primarily for coon hunting. I bought the Viszla because they hunt close like the cur (I had no way of getting another Mountain Cur pup when I needed one.) I didn't want a hound that trailed for miles howling after running game. Viszlas don't stick to a tree and bark/bay like a hound or a mountain cur. If a viszla finds something staying still or in cover (rabbits, birds, coons, cats whatever.) it will point or perhaps let out one bark if they can't chase it. If they can't get to it, after trying a bit, they go back to hunting at more than 40 miles an hour. They will chase everything and are hard to break off cats, chickens and other animals and pets you don't want your dog to hunt. When hunting they check back in with the person every 10 minutes or so. Viszlas have a great nose and also are a sight hound. They can will run and hunt near man on a horse. Amazing endurance and speed. In the house their need for exercise makes them a real pain as they are very busy dogs and will tear your house up. If you can't give them 2-3 hours of heavy exercise a day you are making a big mistake. They will go nuts and drive you nuts. Unlike tree dogs, Viszlas lose interest if they can't see something moving in the tree, scent won't keep them on the tree. Viszlas have an extremely short coat. They will get very cold very fast if they are not running. They are also very human oriented and go crazy crying and howling if their human leaves them alone. The point I'm getting to is you need to know what you want in a dog and the conditions they will be expected to live under. Color is the very last reason to choose a dog.

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Bill Astell

Wow! 2003? This thread is old enough to vote!

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