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coonhunters in Law Enforcement

I had the GREAT PLEASURE to get my certification in OC/Pepper spray today... That stuff is the "Devil in a Can".. The pain I suffered today to this stuff is without description !!! Words have not been invented to describe this kind of pain. I was planning to go run the dog tonight but it aint gonna happen.. My eyes are still red swollen.. and my face looks like sunburn... If you Ever encounter a situation where this stuff is going to be deployed, RUN for your life. I can't imagine why as law enforcement personnel we must be sprayed to get certified to carrythe stuff but believe me I'm sure glad its over !!!

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Fan of the of the Bragg and Vaughn Blues !! TREE OLD HUSSLER in Memory of DOC Householder... Rest in Peace Rev. Kenneth Adkins my dear friend !! Home Will's Creek Savage Sioux-Zee!!
Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

Oh Mr.Valentino.I know what it feels like to get the Oleo resin Capsicum.When I started training we had to do that.And it was 2million scoval heat units.I had burns like crazy.Now when you wash your face use warm water and dawn dish soap.it helps the oil come off.and watch what type of colonge you use.because your skin will be sensitive and wil peel.The reason we have to go thru it is to feel the effects of it.So if you ever have to use it and have to go to court.and the judge askes you if you ever been sprayed with it.You can tell them yes.and you also know the effects of it.

what did you have to get sprayed for? if its for academy. just wait till you get to go through getting hit with the m26. they are both no fun at all. the taser i think is much worse when deployed.... much worce. but the after affects of the other are def/ worse . jmo.

YEP, HAD TO GO THRU THAT TO CARRY IT SOME YEARS AGO...AND THEN HAD TO STAND AND LET IT REALLY BURN...LEARNED THE HARD WAY LATER THAT IT CAN ALSO GIVE A PRETTY GOOD BURN THRU YOUR PANTS...WORKS ON BAD DOGS...USED IT ON A MEAN DOG ON A DRUG RAID ONCE...THINK HE IS UP AROUND THE NORTH POLE STILL RUNNIN'....JB

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J E Boss

Same deal with Tasers.

Yes I have had both OC and Taser, I would take OC hundred times before taking the taser again!

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Jeff I agree with you.That Taser hurts.The pepper spray seems to get worse when you take a shower.

I have had 2 direct sprays (1 was a downpour) and another that was a smear with the ol' OC and I have had the m26 twice alone, 1 daisey chain and 1 from the x26. give me the taser any day, it only lasts 5 seconds.

well

My eyes are still swollen and I can still seem to smell it. As I said Devil in a Can !!! 24 hours later and still a small amount of effects.. I'm more mad about not being able to take advantage of last nights cool temps to run the dog gotta get her tuned up !!!!!

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Fan of the of the Bragg and Vaughn Blues !! TREE OLD HUSSLER in Memory of DOC Householder... Rest in Peace Rev. Kenneth Adkins my dear friend !! Home Will's Creek Savage Sioux-Zee!!
Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

Wayne,

I better be careful at home then. The she-boss carries a can of it for her LE duties.

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Lone Pine North

Yes we got hit with it, I thought it was stupid that as LE we have to get hit with OC spray or Tasers in order to carry them. I hope they never carry that logic over to our firearms, or taking people to jail, or issuing citations.

The poor Conservation Officers in our Academy class had to go through their own academy and get hit with oc, then go through the regular police academy and get hit with oc again, stupid.

dk

There is one good thing about officers knowing how it feels

Before I had the training, I thought it would be a tool to use if someone caused me trouble. Now, after experiencing OC, things are really going to have to go south before I would use OC. It gets in your eye brows and then later when showering, it gets in your eyes and you experience the whole thing again.

Scary part is some people are immune to the stuff so if you really need it and don't get the desired affect it's on.

hey fellas you all would have to agree if it comes to the point of the call where you have to use it on someone who wants to fight and act stupid, its a little self satisfaction to set back and watch them scream cry beg for water and have a snot stream down there face and chest isnt it LOL, it sure does take the fight out of them, ( be safe)

CS Gas

Try getting a dose of CS gas at least once every six months, sometimes more. Eventually you become immune to it. After two or three times you can walk in the gas chamber with no mask on and breathe fine.

My husband got it in the academy-and so did I when he was cooking up some spicy steak dish!!! LOL

So now with all you law enforcement people in one spot, can you tell us where is the best place to look for work out of the "great" state of Michigan? My husband is an emergency dispatcher, and we are looking for departments that are hiring and decent pay in relation to cost of living....which we are hoping will be less than here!!

Thinking WY, TN, UT, MT......any other suggestions?

Thanks!

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I knew there had to be a reason I never wanted to be in law enforcement. Hope they don't have rules before one can carry a firearm. Taking one for the judge would be a little tough.

Do they make you take a kick in the face too? Or make you get hit with those leather gloves. I think that is a good idea.

Sorry Wayne

your story brought to mind another I read & still laugh about. I KNOW it SHOULDN'T be funny, cause it hurts, but I still laugh. Take care & trust me when I say...Your more of a man then I'll EVER be, I could never survive it.

> A Tazer Story
>
> To give you some background information, Rex, the author of this
> email, is in his mid 40's about 6'4 and 220 lbs and contrary to this
> story, he is quite an intelligent person.
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> My wife is fond of saying that my last words on this earth will be
> something akin to "Well, I have out done myself once again." No doubt
> you will see this true story chronicled in a Life Time movie in the
> near future.
> Here goes.
>
> Last weekend I spied something at the Pawn shop that tickled my fancy.
> (Note: Keep in mind that my "fancy" is easily tickled.) I bought
> something really cool for my wife. The occasion was our 22nd
> anniversary and I was looking for a little something extra for my
> sweet girl. What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized
> Tazer gun with a clip. For those of you who are not familiar with this

> product, it is a less-than-lethal stun gun with two metal prongs
> designed to incapacitate an assailant with a shock of high-voltage,
> low amperage electricity while you flee to safety.
>
> The effects are supposed to be short lived, with no long-term adverse
> affect on your assailant, but allowing you adequate time to retreat to

> safety.
> You
> simply jab the prongs into your 250 lb tattooed assailant, push the
> button, and it will render him a slobbering, goggle-eyed,
> muscle-twitching, whimpering, pencil-neck geek. If you've never seen
> one of these things in action, then you're truly missing out - way too

> cool!
>
> Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home. I loaded
> two AAA batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button. Nothing! I
> was so disappointed. Upon reading the directions (we don't need no
> stinkin'
> directions), I found much to my chagrin that this particular model
> would not create an arch between the prongs. How disappointing! I do
> love fire for effect. I learned that if I pushed the button, however,
> and pressed it against a metal surface that I'd get the blue arch of
> electricity darting back and forth between the prongs that I was so
> looking forward to. I did so. Awesome!!! Sparks, a blue arch of
> electricity, and a loud pop!!!
> Yipeeeeee. I'm easily amused, just for your information, but I have
> yet to explain to her what that burn spot is on the face of her
> microwave.
>
> Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that
> it couldn't be all that bad with only two triple-a batteries, etc.,
etc.
> There
> I sat in my recliner, my dog looking on intently (trusting little
> soul), reading the directions (that would be me, not the dog) and
> thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh and
> blood target. I must admit I thought about zapping the dog for a
> fraction of a second and thought better of it. She is such a sweet
> pup, after all. But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to
> protect herself against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it
> would work as advertised. Am I wrong? Was I wrong to think that?
> Seemed reasonable to me at the time.
>
> So there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading
> glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one

> hand, Tazer in another. The directions said that a one-second burst
> would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was
> supposed to cause muscle spasms and a loss of bodily control; a
> three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the
> ground like a fish out of water.
>
> All the while I'm looking at this little device (measuring about 5"
> long,
> less than 3/4 inch in circumference, pretty cute really, and loaded
> with two itsy,bitsy AAA batteries) thinking to myself, "no friggin'
> way!"
>
> Friggin' way - trust me, but I'm getting ahead of myself.
>
> What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best.
> Those
> of you who know me well have got a pretty good idea of what followed.
> I'm
> sitting there alone, the dog looking on with her head cocked to one
> side as to say, "don't do it buddy," reasoning that a one-second burst

> from such a tiny little ole thing couldn't hurt all that bad. (Sound,
> rational thinking under the circumstances, wouldn't you agree?) I
> decided to give myself a one-second burst just for the hell of it.
>
> (Note: You know, a bad decision is like hindsight-always
twenty-twenty.
> It
> is so obvious that it was a bad decision after the fact, even though
> it seemed so right at the time. Don't ya hate that?)
>
> I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and
> HOLY*********!!!! I'm pretty sure that Jessie Ventura ran in through
> the front door, picked me up out of that recliner, then body slammed
> me on the carpet over and over again. I vaguely recall waking up on my

> side in the fetal position, nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be
> found, soaking wet, with my left arm tucked under my body in the
> oddest position. The dog was standing over me making sounds I had
> never heard before, licking my face, undoubtedly thinking to herself,
> "do it again, do it again!"
>
> (Note: If you ever feel compelled to mug yourself with a Tazer, one
> note of caution. There is no such thing as a one-second burst when you

> zap yourself.
> You're not going to let go of that thing until it is dislodged from
> your hand by a violent thrashing about on the floor. Then, if you're
> lucky, you won't dislodge one of the prongs 1/4" deep in your thigh
> like yours
> truly.)
>
> SON-OF-A-***** that hurt! A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as
> time was a relative thing at this point), I collected my wits (what
> little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape. My reading
> glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace. How did they get there???
> My triceps, right thigh and both titties were still twitching. My face

> felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, as my bottom lip weighed
> 88 lbs. give or take an ounce or two, I'm pretty sure.
>
> By the way, has anyone seen my testicles? I think they ran away. I'm
> offering a reward. They're round and rather large.
>
> Miss 'em ...... sure would like to get 'em back .

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I was like you I thought OC Spray was bad when we had to see what it was like. But I will tell you this it is a walk in the park compared to being shot with a Tazer. The one department I work for you half see what it is like once to beable to carry it on duty. I thought it could not be that bad and I was the first in the group of about 20 people there taking the class to beable to carry it. I thought go first get it over and man it is hard to describe forsure and I am glad I will not half to do it again! But the good side is that I don't carry OC spary anymore and once they see you got a Tazer there is never much of a fight!

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riverbliff. where did/do you work at? here in illinois?